It's been whined before and I'll whine it again

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Trinilim
Insta taunt for healer-types, as they don't have QC, will use it on casters if need be, but usually action is too fast paced to observe all of my targets, carefully decide which one needs taunt, and somehow manage to get them highlighted past the other 20 people.

And you know what, you're absolutely right. 3 people capable of destroying 8 full groups in 5 seconds is perfectly fine.

So, you can't find targets fast enough. So nerf the targets.

So, you can't move away fast enough. So nerf the PBers.

So, you can't purge fast enough (Or you've wasted it on a tiny instaCC.). So nerf the other realm.

You suck beyond all reasonable comprehension and you don't understand why other people working together should be able to kill anything.

Despite having been given the solution to your "problem", you still continue to whine. Here's what to do - get an ice wizard and try and do what Hibs do. You'll soon find that you can't because you're up against people who actually KNOW what PB is and how to negate it and you've not got any kind of backup from your shitty random group.

So whine on, cry more, call people names and hope mommy comes and changes your diaper soon.

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[StormriderX]

Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
1. Baseline 9sec stun (lmao)
2. Debuffs (even more laugh)
3. Group purge (sighs)(Not chanter, but hib)
4. Baud (so you cant nuke back)
5. Chanter got pets that never stops chaising you etc etc and spams mezz,root,stuns (sighs)

1. Chanters do not stun before they run into pbaoe ...
2. Chanters can not debuff their own pbaoe
3. Group purge is only up 30minutes
4. Baod is only up every 30mins. Alb version = BoF (where you hit back for bugger all in melee -_-)
5. I don't know what game you are playing but the only chanter pet with cc only has a snare root, I'd love to see a stun/mezz version though t.t
Btw you can stop it snare nuking by meleeing it ONCE, then it will start meleeing you for piss all damage.

Oh and this thread is about pbaoe - what you've listed has nothing to do with it (well except baod )

 

[Apathy]

Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
Totally agree with Trini, 50% energyresists, still being hit for 500-600 with pbaoe is just pure nerf needed.

How awful! Your buffbot isn't giving you enough of an advantage! :uhoh:

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[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Karlo
hib pbaoe is > mid > alb

but yeah all 3 have there place. and Hib do use theres much better atm

no, it hib pb=mid pb= alb pb

tho, there are some nice tools that makes surtain pb groups better then others, but is sure as hell not the PB itself.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
1. Baseline 9sec stun (lmao)
2. Debuffs (even more laugh)
3. Group purge (sighs)(Not chanter, but hib)
4. Baud (so you cant nuke back)
5. Chanter got pets that never stops chaising you etc etc and spams mezz,root,stuns (sighs)

1. works for like 0.5 sec or so on me when I duel a chanter unbuffed
2. debuffs, yeah... tho that got NADA to do with the PB. debuff for PB is on another class then chanters. so elds have a PB also, but it's the slowest one and they have to dualspecc to get the debuff and PB, so either the PB suck or the resists suck. conclusion, you can debuff your PB the same way as hib, tho chanter have an advantage of debuff in mana line that debuffs baseline dd. but stuill not the issue.
3&4 learn how to use SoS and BoF. VERY usefull if used right. (no, SoS isn't so the mincer can escape when the rest of the group is getting pwned)
5. No pets that are summoned ever stop chasing (exeption threugh but they can spam them). chanter pet has dd-snare and if he had mezz, root and stun you'd only be happy for the immunity it will give, lol. also, albion can have pets that either cast snare+dd, proccs posion+disease or proccs a stun.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
And besied, i need something to whine about now when servers are down thanks to all mis and hibs ... wtg, not only are you ruing the life in emain .. now you also broke our server ;(.

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[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn

Hibs get their 9sec baseline stun from a caster that needs severely nerf, albs get it from a class that is so rare that you can count them all on 1 hand no matter time of day .

if you get stuned by a mage, be happy, cuz it lasts alot shorter then a slam. unless you have zip resists, but then it's your own fault, and you should rather go do something about it rather then whine

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by sorusi
fyi alb CC beats hibb CC anyday, bards have it by far worst, if your not extremely good with lul - wich most arent, its easier as a sorc with 1875 than a bard with lul, and 1 insta aoe mezz, 1 insta singel mezz overall all CC now are very close to eachothers

look, Mr-I-know-shit-about-daoc. Insta lul interrupts QC mez
There is absolutly no fucking way i can even cast a single spell if the bard wants.
Even MOC mezzing doesnt work. Every Decent bard on Excal knows it and they use it perfectly.
A sorcerer has exactly 0,000000000000000000000000000% chance to win against a good bard
Only thing i can do is pray i resist the goddamn thing.
I Even made a topic about it on VN boards and they say it's true.
It gets fixed in 1.62. Now Fuck off to your Myrmidon Sorcer Mr Ego

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by sorusi
fyi alb CC beats hibb CC anyday, bards have it by far worst, if your not extremely good with lul - wich most arent, its easier as a sorc with 1875 than a bard with lul, and 1 insta aoe mezz, 1 insta singel mezz overall all CC now are very close to eachothers

yes, i agree.

besides, most mids understand if they get lulled it means: spread out, mezz inc!! Tho there is about no albs who do

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by horsma
dont bother, local albs rather whine than learn to play properly

ok

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Apathy

Despite having been given the solution to your "problem", you still continue to whine. Here's what to do - get an ice wizard and try and do what Hibs do. You'll soon find that you can't because you're up against people who actually KNOW what PB is and how to negate it and you've not got any kind of backup from your shitty random group.
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should rather team up with a TB group or so who actually know how to use PB

 

[bult]

what exactly is so hard about lull?

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its not.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Think the problem here is that many ice wizz missunderstood the concept of pbaoe. They have seen chanters killing massive albs with their pbaoe n when those albs go on rvr situations they try to copycat chanters going straight to the mezzed enemies alone n trying to pbaoe em. Result: dead meat, they get slammed and/or chopped into oblivion after the 1st pbaoe.
Explanation: a lonely ice wizz/SM cant pbaoe a shit . I have seen some hib brehons groups with only 1 chanter trying to pbaoe for his own. Insta killed after the 1 nuke, but this isnt common.

Why chanters are succesfull when pbaoeing enemies?? Because many hib groups, use to roam with at least 2 chanters. This allows em to do a lethal pbaoe combo on packed mezzed fgs. If there are 3 chanters that pbaoe at time, well, it hurts....
In albion this is very rare to see, coz 2 ice wizzs in the same group kinda screw it.


My personal point of view: if you are the only pbaoe class in your group, play defense mode. Assist ur main tank, n stay back close to your cleric n your theur at nuking range. Only use pbaoe if your support classes are under atack.

 

[tildson]

Get some resists and you wont feel it that much, if they have debuffer - kill that guy first.

 

[Ironfoot]

Originally posted by nuked_inthehead
coz savage isnt wearing cloth and very rarely, if ever does a pbaoe hit for 1500dmg .. giv a savage cloth or make it so you can interupt swing then see how well you work

Oh and you just forgot to mention that a PBAE actually does more than 1500dmg per hit as you have to look at the total number of people it hits within the radius so techincally speaking the damage potential of PBAE in 1.5 secs (cast time) versus 1fg with an average hit per toon of 500 = 4000 damage in less than 2 secs and thats being conservative I have seen PBAE hits for 700 + tips per target so 500 is a very conservative estimate in this case

Please remind me why zerkers got nerfed again ? because the were able to mow down 1 person every 3.2secs x 3 - 5 swings (average depending on target) go vendo and lose a large % of defence ? So thats 1500 every 10 secs average

To all you clueless freaking cunt whine fuckers who say hmm use tactics against PBAE i say kiss my fucking ass why didnt you use tactics against LA ? oh whats that ? too hard for you you freaking fuck wits, so its of course easier to moan like a hooker in a whore house than try and formulate a strategy.

PS fuck off

 

[sorusi]

lull doesnt give a 5sec interrupt like spd debuff do if you think that

you have to use it while they cast, that is impossible if the sorc is useing high dex + mota ie 1.5sec ct, etc

now aussie can u please shut up before you ever try any bard/healer in CC or so?

oh the best CC:ers usually jump their victims, it doesnt help by going the predictable ways etc getting jumped - if you do dont expect to win the mezz fight

also, your aware that quick casting a spell when you have 300dex + mota makes it cast slower than if you actacully didnt qc it? qc = 2sec cast,. w/o qc you can go below

and ive earned ~1m rps on sorc so shut up about me not knowing the class etc

 

[Aussie-]

yep and you left because albs broke your mezzes all the time, now go figure out where you were standing

you have to use it while they cast

you sound like it's difficult to press an instabutton when you see a Sorcer cast his mez

 

[sorusi]

k keep saying sorcs are so gimpy then, use that excuse instead of realiseing that you suck if you cant mezz most bards/healers

- getting a jump on someone with 1875 = you win mezz fight.

Getting jumped by insta = mezzing battle lost, but there is still chance for a sorc due to qc

 

[Aussie-]

wow , so you're saying a sorcer needs to have a positional advantage to win. or play against a stupid group that doesnt know how to play with a camera.

stop talking with your ass, head to head combats are fair nothing else

 

[sorusi]

no i mean that any of the bards/healers/sorcs need positional advantage to win

head on a sorc will > healer - even with instas.

head on bard should > sorc if hes very good at timeing, it will still be close etc due to bards have quite low CT (oh and instas can only be wasted now and then not like a healer - who can use the insta mezz/stun most of the times ;p)

basicly they are all on same lvl

try roaming and flanking some for a change instead of camp common spots where u used to live with the zerg

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by sorusi
fyi alb CC beats hibb CC anyday, bards have it by far worst

Originally posted by sorusi
head on bard should > sorc

STOP TALKING WITH YOUR ASS

 

[sorusi]

overall, you have no idea how many bards who do not know how lull works

only like 2 bards on excal that ive seen mezz well so

thats head on aswell, cant help you noob camp amg all day

 

[Freppe^^]

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[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
Oh and you just forgot to mention that a PBAE actually does more than 1500dmg per hit as you have to look at the total number of people it hits within the radius so techincally speaking the damage potential of PBAE in 1.5 secs (cast time) versus 1fg with an average hit per toon of 500 = 4000 damage in less than 2 secs and thats being conservative I have seen PBAE hits for 700 + tips per target so 500 is a very conservative estimate in this case

Please remind me why zerkers got nerfed again ? because the were able to mow down 1 person every 3.2secs x 3 - 5 swings (average depending on target) go vendo and lose a large % of defence ? So thats 1500 every 10 secs average

To all you clueless freaking cunt whine fuckers who say hmm use tactics against PBAE i say kiss my fucking ass why didnt you use tactics against LA ? oh whats that ? too hard for you you freaking fuck wits, so its of course easier to moan like a hooker in a whore house than try and formulate a strategy.

PS fuck off

As a clueless freaking cunt whine fucker, I would like to know what tactic I can use against LA?

 

[Aussie-]

ask soruzi, he knows everything

 

[Apathy]

Originally posted by old.Nol
As a clueless freaking cunt whine fucker, I would like to know what tactic I can use against LA?

PB OF COURSE!

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[Amadon]

Originally posted by old.Nol
As a clueless freaking cunt whine fucker, I would like to know what tactic I can use against LA?

stfu and die like a good little bard!

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Apathy
PB OF COURSE!

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prolly come as a shock mate, but bards don't got no pb...go figure, we got everything else + chain and GP...

 

[Qte Eth]

sorcs whine about CC =lol
but what else can u expect from a person who whines for a year now?..

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by old.Nol
prolly come as a shock mate, but bards don't got no pb...go figure, we got everything else + chain and GP...

Get high dodger and melee em to death!!!