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alme
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try assisting eachother/using a fast wpn to break bt
try assisting eachother/using a fast wpn to break bt
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Karlo
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hib pbaoe is > mid > alb
but yeah all 3 have there place. and Hib do use theres much better atm
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noaim
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How is hibs better than mids and albs?
Mids do more damage than hibs and albs, so let go for mid pbae > alb, but why is hibs better?
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old.Zuljin
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Can i say something ?
ok..
Hib PBAE, yes it might hurt, but so does Spirit masters PBAE aswell as Ice wizzards. The problem is that the other 2 realms need to learn how to use the PBAE right!
mid: Healers to AE mezz when attacking, then SM's moves into the crowd and when the SM's start to cast, healers land a AE stun.
alb: AE mezz -> move in -> PBAE..! its the same way that we do it in Hib, we dont have fancy AE stun like mids and albs got singel stun aswell on Cleric.. so i cant see why you F**ing whine that much. Imo you should learn how to use the PBAE before start the complains!
and yes! i have played a Ice wizzard, and YES! i have played a Supp SM and i know how they works.. and i cant see the reason to all the whine about it.
ok..
Hib PBAE, yes it might hurt, but so does Spirit masters PBAE aswell as Ice wizzards. The problem is that the other 2 realms need to learn how to use the PBAE right!
mid: Healers to AE mezz when attacking, then SM's moves into the crowd and when the SM's start to cast, healers land a AE stun.
alb: AE mezz -> move in -> PBAE..! its the same way that we do it in Hib, we dont have fancy AE stun like mids and albs got singel stun aswell on Cleric.. so i cant see why you F**ing whine that much. Imo you should learn how to use the PBAE before start the complains!
and yes! i have played a Ice wizzard, and YES! i have played a Supp SM and i know how they works.. and i cant see the reason to all the whine about it.
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Grandpeck
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pbaoe is a sick spell for all realms
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wyleia
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Actually, mid pbaoe > hib & alb
MID PBAOE -> level 49 331.5
HIB PBAOE -> level 48 325
ALB PBAOE -> level 48 325
Not to mention the fact that mids have the use of AEstun..... aemezz is all nice and good but aestun + pbaoe... And their pbaoe is 1 level higher spec level and does a bit more dmg..
hib pbaoe was superior at the beginning because of a quicker casting time, but that was fixed several patches back and now all 3 realm pbaoe have the same cast time..
Ive been in pbaoe grps in alb and on hib, both work well, but when your main cc cant quickcast and has to rely on an instant that lasts all of 5 seconds if you come under surprise attack, ofc you go into kill everything as quickly as possible mode, instead of albion where you have a sorc who can quickcast the mezz, or moc aemezz, and have a backup aeroot to further cc targets.. not to mention theurgy aeroot, wizzie aeroot etc.. lots of area cc in alb.. in hib we get the bard who cannot quickcast, eldrich who can aemezz but rare to see that as cc, and ofc the battle druid with the aeroot, but then thye cannot heal so well... And quickcast is up every 30 seconds, bard insta mezz every 10min or smth...
so without some way of keeping people standing still and not beating the crap out of your casters and healing classes, ofc you go into a mode to kill everyone as fast as possible. Hib casters do not have much defense, yes we have the stun, but try stunning a tank and trying to take down 2k hit points in the few seconds stun lasts.. in alb i can safely root a tank for a lot longer than i can stun one in hib to get away.
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DroP DeaD
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Hib is caster realm with all 3 power relics... Humm 
Also SOME Hibbie groups who have more than 1 Enchanter in the group are smart enough to all pack into 1 and push the PB button to hell and ofc the dumb Albions/Middies run into it simple as that... Ofc not all of them do some stand around the circle and just let casters do all the work to kill um...
Hibbies have tactics with Enchanters thats it.
Also SOME Hibbie groups who have more than 1 Enchanter in the group are smart enough to all pack into 1 and push the PB button to hell and ofc the dumb Albions/Middies run into it simple as that... Ofc not all of them do some stand around the circle and just let casters do all the work to kill um...
Hibbies have tactics with Enchanters thats it.
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bracken_woodman
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PBAOE is really only a pain in the ass when taking keeps - but then you just dont charge in there. Sure it hurts, and may be a case regarding its casting time, but really just need to think before charging into that chanter huddle. Plenty of good advice in the thread about how to give yourself a chance against it.
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kra
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and mid is the melee realm so why are people complaining about savages hitting them for atleast 1500 dmg every 1.5 secs? i'm not even gonna mention berzergarxcz cause they're getting nerfed already as ppl whined enough
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coz savage isnt wearing cloth and very rarely, if ever does a pbaoe hit for 1500dmg .. giv a savage cloth or make it so you can interupt swing then see how well you work
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alme
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rofl i hope ure kidding
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bult
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If u got to whine please dont do it about the stuff that is balanced when there is plenty of less balanced stuff to whine about... All realms got the same possibility to use PBAE. Sure insta mezz is nice but not a must. PBAE is mostly good vs ppl that dont know how to play or if its used defensively.
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Trinilim
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with the insane amount of enchanters, there's most usually 1 that has moc up, which is more than enough tbh.
stun doesn't always land, but when it does you can kiss your sorry ass goodbye.
the support characters are usually being decimated into oblivion by other casters.
Ofc I'm usually able to sprint away, and I have 1,900 hp, with 40% energy resist. I still take 500+ damage.
Insta taunt for healer-types, as they don't have QC, will use it on casters if need be, but usually action is too fast paced to observe all of my targets, carefully decide which one needs taunt, and somehow manage to get them highlighted past the other 20 people.
And you know what, you're absolutely right. 3 people capable of destroying 8 full groups in 5 seconds is perfectly fine.
Dipshit.
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zapzap
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Chanter has baod if not I bet you would see mids groups look the same as hib groups.
SM more powerful against albs then chanter is since stun is Aoe and on the healer.
Iam just happy albs on this server use sos to run away with.
Ispaz rr 4l3 chanter
Zapsi the bard
careless rr 6l3 sm
Zapsi rr 6l8 healer
Zapsis rr 7l1 sb
SM more powerful against albs then chanter is since stun is Aoe and on the healer.
Iam just happy albs on this server use sos to run away with.
Ispaz rr 4l3 chanter
Zapsi the bard
careless rr 6l3 sm
Zapsi rr 6l8 healer
Zapsis rr 7l1 sb
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Tranquil-
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The problem with hib pbaoe isn't the pbaoe really, it's the bundle of good utility enchanters get by and in addition to speccing high mana. And that results in high numbers of it.
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Cuthervaen
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Thing is, at primetime u can't swing a luri in Emain without PBAOing 10 albs...
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Danya
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Yeah wanna watch them webmasters...Originally posted by Arnor
whats wrong with the chanter pbaoe compared to the spiritmaster pbaoe?
(and dont say the whatmasters pbaoe ^^ )
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Qte Eth
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well said,give more whine from stupid noskilled tanks imo
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why can you not use the same tactic? is it just 2 much to comprehend? its 1 button! i dont know much of pbaoe as im not 1 but genrally i dont see hib chanters stun the target b 4 they pbaoe. if they do then o well what a shame you have a weakness against something, shock horror!!!
.. if you wasnt weak against a certain class it wouldnt be a very ballanced or good game .. anyone with any type of instant cast spell can stop a caster, and melee char that reaches a chanter can stop the cast and most tanks can hit a chanter to take them down in 3 hits!
/face /stick <style><style><style>enchanter was killed by someone who knows how to play what they made
PLEASE JUST GET OVER IT. pbaoe does heavy dmg in exchange for being a close range spell ... tanks have slam, healers have root, mezz or ae stun so why shouldnt casters have a single target stun. live with it. we use the tools we have. as far as im concerned there are not enough albs out there who can say the same thing. you (albs) may learn a thing or 2 more from not using your sheep ability so much, be an individual for once plz!
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sorusi
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farmfarmafarmfarmfarmfarm
useless thread
useless thread
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old.FIN
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give albs insta CC AOE, then we r ok....
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sorusi
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you allready are "ok" just start some good grps with good ppl and you will see that that grp will be able to compete VERY well
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Lomald Umilinn
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1. Baseline 9sec stun (lmao)
2. Debuffs (even more laugh)
3. Group purge (sighs)(Not chanter, but hib)
4. Baud (so you cant nuke back)
5. Chanter got pets that never stops chaising you etc etc and spams mezz,root,stuns (sighs)
Enough said, its a *very* big difference between albs pbaoe and hibs and mids pbaoe. Albs really ain't made to do pbaoe, alll hibs and mids tactics/reasons have allready been stated.
Totally agree with Trini, 50% energyresists, still being hit for 500-600 with pbaoe is just pure nerf needed.
You tell us not to move in when they stand all on the same spot spaming pressing one pbaoe buttong? What shall we do, use our spells which hurts soooo much on you thanks to baud ^^?
Your tanks moving out, albs stick them.. you move back in the pbaoe circle ... stupid alb tanks, seen it they do it every day. But still, nothing to fight it.
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Lomald Umilinn
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Don't know if that would solve the problem, and in that caste make sorc mezz 1500 range again =). But yes, Albs need some kind of instant cc if you look over the CC features between all the realms, leaving 1 without instant is kind of ... bad.
And besied, i need something to whine about now when servers are down thanks to all mis and hibs ... wtg, not only are you ruing the life in emain .. now you also broke our server ;(.
And for the guy that said that clerics have baseline single stun, maybe he should try and play alb and TRY to get a "real" cleric and not a buffbot.
Hibs get their 9sec baseline stun from a caster that needs severely nerf, albs get it from a class that is so rare that you can count them all on 1 hand no matter time of day
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sorusi
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fyi alb CC beats hibb CC anyday, bards have it by far worst, if your not extremely good with lul - wich most arent, its easier as a sorc with 1875 than a bard with lul, and 1 insta aoe mezz, 1 insta singel mezz overall all CC now are very close to eachothers
overall all CC now are very close to eachothers
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Rnp
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could it be cos for every ice wizz/sm albs/mids have hibs have 3-4 chanters?
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gwal
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dont we all have fun... a continious whine that is based in nothing but ppl´s own inability to get good and balanced rvr grp´s going. a good alb grp can compete with anything.
and before u say - but we dont have enough sorcerers, then go make 1 instead of whining.
nerf BW whines
and before u say - but we dont have enough sorcerers, then go make 1 instead of whining.
nerf BW whines
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Originally posted by sorusi
fyi alb CC beats hibb CC anyday, bards have it by far worst, if your not extremely good with lul - wich most arent, its easier as a sorc with 1875 than a bard with lul, and 1 insta aoe mezz, 1 insta singel mezz
dont bother, local albs rather whine than learn to play properly
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StormriderX
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It says a lot more about those 8fg of players than it does about pbaoe...namely they are a big bunch of fucking retards t.t
"Hmm this spell keeps hitting for 500 - I know instead of moving out of its short range I'll stand in front of the chanter."
Oh and all realms have the same capacity to do that kind of damage.
Chanters cast their stun spells on each and every target before they pbaoe, really
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Gahldir
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well, that has nothing to do with the PB itself, has it?