TV Islam Channel found guilty on breaching broadcasting guidelines 5 times

[cHodAX]

Backward fuckers, condoning violence and rape against your own wife.

Broadcasting - News - Ofcom censures the Islam Channel - Digital Spy

Punishment? Censured. What a fucking joke, if the BBC had done the same they would be in the dock.

 

[BloodOmen]

Aye, they treat woman like shite, fucking primitives. The world would be better off if every bit of islamic scripture was fucking burnt, along with the extremists bending it to suit their own wicked ways.

 

[Roalith]

While we're at it, can we through every other piece of scripture ever written on the same bonfire?

 

[BloodOmen]

While we're at it, can we through every other piece of scripture ever written on the same bonfire?

hey i'm all for scrapping religion its nowt but trouble, and that goes for all religions not just this one.

 

[Ch3tan]

Extremist bullshit and pure fantasy - and no, I'm not referring to religion or the TV channel.

 

[BloodOmen]

Extremist bullshit and pure fantasy - and no, I'm not referring to religion or the TV channel.

I'm no extremist, no crime in expressing my thoughts wether you agree with them or not.

 

[Job]

I'll have ago at extremism.

Every Muslim should be exterminated, all the Mosques and Holy places should be destroyed and anyone trying to ressurect the 'faith' should be executed.

Oh hang on, that's the goals of the Muslim extremists.

Must try harder.

 

[Bahumat]

I'll have ago at extremism.

Every Muslim should be exterminated, all the Mosques and Holy places should be destroyed and anyone trying to ressurect the 'faith' should be executed.

Oh hang on, that's the goals of the Muslim extremists.

Must try harder.

Curse not being able to rep you so soon!

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm no extremist, no crime in expressing my thoughts wether you agree with them or not.

No there isn't, just as their isn't a crime with them expressing their views, and OfCom punishing them afterwards if it's breached their guidelines.

Ofcom is actually taking quite a hardline here, they have already been fined, they are now being called in to discuss future compliance. If you think the beeb or itv would be treated differently then you are wrong - you'd simply have heard more about it.


I do like the fact that most people with anti-islam stances justify the views of most extremists, and spit in the face of democracy.

 

[Chronictank]

I do like the fact that most people with anti-islam stances justify the views of most extremists, and spit in the face of democracy.

Your first mistake was assuming they were capable of cognitive thought on the subject

 

[cHodAX]

No there isn't, just as their isn't a crime with them expressing their views, and OfCom punishing them afterwards if it's breached their guidelines.

Ofcom is actually taking quite a hardline here, they have already been fined, they are now being called in to discuss future compliance. If you think the beeb or itv would be treated differently then you are wrong - you'd simply have heard more about it.


I do like the fact that most people with anti-islam stances justify the views of most extremists, and spit in the face of democracy.

5 times! 5! Not once, 5! You get 5 red cards in a season the FA fuck you sideways. You crash your car 5 times the insurance companies refuse to insure you for less than a trillion pounds a week. However in a politically correct country a muslim TV station can REPEATEDLY broadcast programs that are breaking the official rules and they get a small fine followed by a censure.

When the porn channels left the picture unscrambled a few times due to techincal issues the regulator reamed them, even though it was well after midnight and the chances of any kids seeing it were slim to nil. If Eastender has a nasty scene in it 500 people call the BBC and regulator, BBC gets censured for that.

This is 5 full on fucked up breaches of the broadcasting code.

 

[Ch3tan]

5 breaches that happened in 2008 and were only highlighted this year. Ofcom is taking action, as it has previously fined them. All this info is in the article that you linked to in your OP, maybe you should read it?

Stop sensationalising. Also don't compare Ofcom's rules to sports, that is ludicrous, your time would be better spent by checking what Ofcoms regulatory powers and procedures actually are before calling foul.

 

[Chronictank]

5 times! 5! Not once, 5! You get 5 red cards in a season the FA fuck you sideways. You crash your car 5 times the insurance companies refuse to insure you for less than a trillion pounds a week. However in a politically correct country a muslim TV station can REPEATEDLY broadcast programs that are breaking the official rules and they get a small fine followed by a censure.

You will find many tv stations, newspapers and magazines REGULARLY break the rules

When the porn channels left the picture unscrambled a few times due to techincal issues the regulator reamed them, even though it was well after midnight and the chances of any kids seeing it were slim to nil. If Eastender has a nasty scene in it 500 people call the BBC and regulator, BBC gets censured for that.

This is 5 full on fucked up breaches of the broadcasting code.

censored how?
They get a slap on the wrist and a fine for the breach

 

[old.Tohtori]

Not sure how this differs from, especially, all the US preacher shows, or any news station being a bit propaganda sided, or to start with "the tv lying".

At the same time as this is banned and horrific and oh so outrageous, how many times does the western civ use rape(and even worse) as a joke? Rape is comedy around here and no one thinks twice about it as it's disguised as humor.

If the broadcaster had said "Yeah so this muslim visits another muslims house and sees his wife with two black eyes. He asks "What happened" and the man tells him that she had to be told twice.". Big whoop?

Not to mention, all the anti-extremist talk here is just that, extremist. You're willing to go as far or even further then what you're opposing.

 

[Ch3tan]

Quite, it's just anti-islam and anti-PC rhetoric and bad feeling clouding judgement and clear thought.

 

[cHodAX]

Quite, it's just anti-islam and anti-PC rhetoric and bad feeling clouding judgement and clear thought.

Or maybe TV shows that more than condone the beating and raping of women just don't piss you off as much as normal people? Are we too sensitive or do you just not give a shit? The later would get my vote. I have first hand experience of seeing violence against women many times in my life, it is fucking hideous. So you see the fire under me has not been started because it is a Muslim station or even that I hate political correctness, I am fucking angry because violence against a woman and especially rape is something that goes every fibre of my being.

 

[Ch3tan]

Yes, and you've let that cloud your judgement. You can;t answer one crime with another, and taking unfair action against that TV station, out of line with Ofcoms procedures, should not happen just because they subject matter is inflammatory.

It's called taking a step back. We'd be no better off than Islamic states if we acted on emotions to every situation.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Or maybe TV shows that more than condone the beating and raping of women just don't piss you off as much as normal people? Are we too sensitive or do you just not give a shit? The later would get my vote. I have first hand experience of seeing violence against women many times in my life, it is fucking hideous. So you see the fire under me has not been started because it is a Muslim station or even that I hate political correctness, I am fucking angry because violence against a woman and especially rape is something that goes every fibre of my being.

So i'm assuming you don't fnid violence to women, rape, or other such horrific acts at all funny?

I'm also assunming you haven't made any rape jokes, used the word rape in say fps circles "base rape" for example and so on?

I think i won't find any jokes on the "revolting jokes thread"(or some such) right?

We'd be no better than Islamic states

I'd say we're no better then islamic states, we just think we are.

 

[cHodAX]

Yes, and you've let that cloud your judgement. You can;t answer one crime with another, and taking unfair action against that TV station, out of line with Ofcoms procedures, should not happen just because they subject matter is inflammatory.

It's called taking a step back. We'd be no better off than Islamic states if we acted on emotions to every situation.

Emotion? 5 breaches over a 2 year period is nothing to do with emotion. It is persistance offending, not on trival matters either but of the highest order. You told me to read the link I posted but I read it long before I posted actually and it also mentions heavily biased reporting of news storiesin 2007 which of course promotes further hate and distrust. This network has an agenda and it is not just pushing it to letter of the law but beyond it, unfortunately OFCOM is a toothles dragon and it has taken 2 years for them just to get to the stage of censuring the network.

Didn't take them 2 years to sort the porn channels out and levy fines did it?

 

[cHodAX]

So i'm assuming you don't fnid violence to women, rape, or other such horrific acts at all funny?

I'm also assunming you haven't made any rape jokes, used the word rape in say fps circles "base rape" for example and so on?

I think i won't find any jokes on the "revolting jokes thread"(or some such) right?



I'd say we're no better then islamic states, we just think we are.

Of course I don't find it funny, as for using the word rape well everyone has used it, I don't play FPS either but your point seems trivial at best. We are not talking about the word rape but the act of rape, completely different.

Now for your last point, again this thread was not an anti muslim post, Islamic states do many fine things as well I am sure. However this network and it's employees who went on camera are the ones to whom I referred as 'backward fuckers' it wasn't sweeping statement against all muslims and if you think it was that that is your assumption but NOT something I actually said.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Of course I don't find it funny, as for using the word rape well everyone has used it, I don't play FPS either but your point seems trivial at best. We are not talking about the word rape but the act of rape, completely different.

Now for your last point, again this thread was not an anti muslim post, Islamic states do many fine things as well I am sure. However this network and it's employees who went on camera are the ones to whom I referred as 'backward fuckers' it wasn't sweeping statement against all muslims and if you think it was that that is your assumption but NOT something I actually said.

Didn't mean just you, so if you didn't mean it, it's fine.

To some people just mentioning rape is traumatising(due to experience), but we don't go around watching every word. This is the same, jsut words, if people act on it, it's their fault.

There's been a lot, a LOT of talk on this thread already that's so called evil. If someone wuold go out and blow up a islam church, you could say this thread is to blame, as much as the tv station is to blame for rape or wife beating.

It's a fair point also that we've made rape into a joke, yet it's no problem to people.

 

[cHodAX]

Didn't mean just you, so if you didn't mean it, it's fine.

To some people just mentioning rape is traumatising(due to experience), but we don't go around watching every word. This is the same, jsut words, if people act on it, it's their fault.

There's been a lot, a LOT of talk on this thread already that's so called evil. If someone wuold go out and blow up a islam church, you could say this thread is to blame, as much as the tv station is to blame for rape or wife beating.

It's a fair point also that we've made rape into a joke, yet it's no problem to people.

First of all FH is not licensed to broadcast into peoples homes, therefore its target audience is a few hundred people. FH itself would not be breaching any rules, breaking the law or breaching a broadcast licence and that was my whole point. None of the content on FH is paid for by the owners either and all of it can be editted or removed by the moderators at the drop of a hat. This TV network has repeatedly broken the rules and has so far been let off very very lightly, not being punished as it should have been and 2 years on from the offences they are finally being warned where if a non-muslim TV station had commited such serious offences they would have been fined massively or shut down. We all know why that hasn't happened but some people are afraid to admit it for fear of being tarred with the same brush as the anti-muslim brigade, it doesn't change the facts though, this station broke the rules 2 years ago and is still being treated with kid gloves because of religious sensitivities.

The saying goes, a rule for one and then a rule for everyone else.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So it all comes down to money? Or braking rules? I thought you were against the message.

Because if you don't find a couple of hundred people getting some message off here bad, yet find this unacceptable and backwatered when it's a news station, you're being a bit silly.

Also if one person rapes his wife because of that news cast, or one person blows up a muslim church because of this thread, the blame is same. Ergo; the blame is on the person doing the act.

A rule for one is a rule for all? Then why the moral codes and rules you impose in your insult to "backward f*ckers" doesn't apply to FH?

Or do moral problems only occur when it's about thousands of people, not just hundreds?

If anything, you should crack down on FH even stronger as you're part of it.

 

[old.Tohtori]

But before we get too off-track, lemme recap my viewpoint on the topic and topic alone;

What they did seems silly(especially after first warnings), seems weird with a western background, but it's nothing westerns haven't done, still do infact and sometimes worse, and there's no reason to get all extremist about it(as people often do).

 

[Ch3tan]

Emotion? 5 breaches over a 2 year period is nothing to do with emotion. It is persistance offending, not on trival matters either but of the highest order. You told me to read the link I posted but I read it long before I posted actually and it also mentions heavily biased reporting of news storiesin 2007 which of course promotes further hate and distrust. This network has an agenda and it is not just pushing it to letter of the law but beyond it, unfortunately OFCOM is a toothles dragon and it has taken 2 years for them just to get to the stage of censuring the network.

Didn't take them 2 years to sort the porn channels out and levy fines did it?

Yawn. Read my post on the first page.

5 breaches all in 2008. Which were only bought to Ofcom's attention THIS year. This is stated in the article you linked. It hasn't taken them 2 years to do anything, it's taken them since March when a complaint was made. Ofcom does not work by viewing all the content at any one time; they wait for a complaint, investigate if their has been a breach of their rules and then take action.

It also states that Ofcom are in talks over future compliance with the station this time, rather than just fining them as they did in 2007.

So stop with your righteous wrath about the treatment of women, and think about this clearly for 5 minutes.

Of course the network has an agenda, every TV program does, every network does. Ofcom is there to regulate them, and we have law's to cover what they can't. We do live in a country where you are still (despite Labour's best efforts) allowed to express yourself, even if other people don't like it.

 

[cHodAX]

Yawn. Read my post on the first page.

5 breaches all in 2008. Which were only bought to Ofcom's attention THIS year. This is stated in the article you linked. It hasn't taken them 2 years to do anything, it's taken them since March when a complaint was made. Ofcom does not work by viewing all the content at any one time; they wait for a complaint, investigate if their has been a breach of their rules and then take action.

It also states that Ofcom are in talks over future compliance with the station this time, rather than just fining them as they did in 2007.

So stop with your righteous wrath about the treatment of women, and think about this clearly for 5 minutes.

Of course the network has an agenda, every TV program does, every network does. Ofcom is there to regulate them, and we have law's to cover what they can't. We do live in a country where you are still (despite Labour's best efforts) allowed to express yourself, even if other people don't like it.

That's it, you keep clutching at straws to back up your hollow posturing. They condoned acts of violence and rape against women, they have not been punished properly for it and you still continue to dance around the matter.

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's it, you keep clutching at straws to back up your hollow posturing. They condoned acts of violence and rape against women, they have not been punished properly for it and you still continue to dance around the matter.

I have to, don't feel too threatened by it, to concentrate a bit on that condone part.

What would be the appropriate punishment for condoning to things?(in this case, acts of violence/abuse) Especially considering the stated "rules same for all" thing.

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm not the one dancing around the issue chodax, you've done nothing but vent personal views and warp the truth. You've not answered any of my points about how Ofcom operates, you've avoided the issue totally.

As for punishment, why don't you wait and see what Ofcoms ruling is before foaming off at the mouth?

And as for hollow posturing? Really? You are the one who has claimed that I don't care about violence to women.