Is this the future of daoc?

[Lorimez Shadowblade]

Possibly its hard to judge mood/tone on forums etc, but their was no anger in my words. I do have my own views certainly, and i gladly share them with you. However you choose to look at it is up to you, i dont pretend my word is gospel, its my opinion.

I personally beleive that someone who cant drink in details in RvR combat, who stays too focused on whatever they're hitting, is someone who doesnt look at the big picture, and thus isnt a reliable source when it comes to making comments about the entire future of MMORPGs. Argue against that if you will, but dont go off on random tangents about "anger issues" etc.

Fair point.

Just bare in mind that not all of us who play scouts shoot every target thats engaged and that when fighting up close against the bridge your views are often shrunk into first person view and viewing whats around you isn't always possible.

Also I'm not advocating that adding/zerging etc is right or wrong but I do believe agressive ingame beahviour is wrong. So I do have a good ability to judge what daoc is like and whether the future will continue like this. Pretty sure Goa/mythic have an opinion on it too.

Still doesn't excuse people venting their abusive views, in game.

/bow

 

[Maeloch]

If peeps talk to you like that just tell em to fuck off back and add their fights. Problem solved.

 

[Gahn]

Fair point Gahn. I can handle zergs but don't enjoy the bullshit attitude of people who think it's ok to be abusive. It's after all a realm .vs realm out there. Think some people want it to be there own rp playground.

/bow

It's always a dog biting his tail tbh m8, ofc i got fed up when some1 fucks up a good 1 vs 1 and i tend not to add on fair fights (altho i add on unfair fights like 2 sbs [guess? Aldoran and Bite] jumping an infil yesterday near OB, i jumped on 1 sb ofc ) at least when i'm solo, but u can't really expect other ppl to adher (sp?) to some unwritten rules. So when the going is really bad i just tend to log and do summit else.

 

[belxavier]

If I was that mincer I would do the same tbh. And I have done it on occasions. Yes it gives me rp's, but it also lets them finish their lil 1on1. And I don't mind it happening when I'm having a 1on1 that I'm losing either.

Anyways, WHINE on bigchief and aoln, I attacked aoln, and see bigchief circling around, and of course he has to add in and pa me for 1200+!
Well, I logged on eld instead and leeched my ass off on them as payback.
Just not fun playing shade when they can't even let me try to have a 1on1, yes they were grouped of course, but still. I prolly couldn't have taken aoln anyway, but at least I don't mind to die trying.

Oh yeah, and I got ml 9 tonight, so I guess you're gonna have to blow some purge if you absolutely must add.

hehe met em solo too yest and was doing good considering ip etc was down had chief on 10-20% and thought might actually drop him if the impossible happens and get a hunter evade or two xD but then 5 hibs run up and ae mes buff shear and nuke me down first even tho was getting duoed wtg m8s! so till next time aoln and bc xD

 

[BigE]

Calling me self serving, when i deliberately limit my realm points by not adding on fights..

It must be so hard to be you, constantly helping the realm by hoovering up all the enemies with the zerg... but dont let me make you feel bad: youve got the best interests of the realm at heart. and im a RP whoar(sic).

Do you want to take another look at which one of us is the one whoreing rps?

HEHE .. game acording to jjuraas still looking still see you.. mmmm but ofc your right cos your jjuraas

 

[Adianna]

hehe met em solo too yest and was doing good considering ip etc was down had chief on 10-20% and thought might actually drop him if the impossible happens and get a hunter evade or two xD but then 5 hibs run up and ae mes buff shear and nuke me down first even tho was getting duoed wtg m8s! so till next time aoln and bc xD

Always nuke archers down first before they can react. They tend to use phaseshift and other annoying things. Assassins can only use vanish and usually they do it that stupid, that you nuke them out of it again.

 

[Vladamir]

If I was that mincer I would do the same tbh. And I have done it on occasions. Yes it gives me rp's, but it also lets them finish their lil 1on1. And I don't mind it happening when I'm having a 1on1 that I'm losing either.

Anyways, WHINE on bigchief and aoln, I attacked aoln, and see bigchief circling around, and of course he has to add in and pa me for 1200+!
Well, I logged on eld instead and leeched my ass off on them as payback.
Just not fun playing shade when they can't even let me try to have a 1on1, yes they were grouped of course, but still. I prolly couldn't have taken aoln anyway, but at least I don't mind to die trying.

Oh yeah, and I got ml 9 tonight, so I guess you're gonna have to blow some purge if you absolutely must add.

You always add , so have a cup of stfu and get over it, retard.

 

[Adianna]

You always add , so have a cup of stfu and get over it, retard.

Now who is worse? The adder or the one adding the adder for adding on him?

 

[Vladamir]

Now who is worse? The adder or the one adding the adder for adding on him?

Regardless of who it is i'll leave a 1 on 1 fight till it finishes, if it's someone like Mrbond then obviously ill take the free rps, although if its someone that doesn't add on me (Zedenk etc) i'll leave them to go .

Btw less confusion with that post too

 

[belxavier]

Always nuke archers down first before they can react. They tend to use phaseshift and other annoying things. Assassins can only use vanish and usually they do it that stupid, that you nuke them out of it again.

qq but 2xrr9 against me rr9 hunter (counts as rr4 for toughness to beat on any other class) at least let me finish or die

 

[Dorimor1]

Jjuraa, what I fail to understand is that you're telling Lori to look at the big picture but you're too narrow minded to think that not all scouts add and shoot anything that moves

 

[Adianna]

qq but 2xrr9 against me rr9 hunter (counts as rr4 for toughness to beat on any other class) at least let me finish or die

Not another high RR hunter QQing about his underpowered class. You can't be that underpowered if you took down a RR9 Inf to 10% in a 2 vs 1 and still be alive that a hib group can nuke you down.

 

[belxavier]

Not another high RR hunter QQing about his underpowered class. You can't be that underpowered if you took down a RR9 Inf to 10% in a 2 vs 1 and still be alive that a hib group can nuke you down.

lol called sarcasm and heard of useing tools at my disposal and high dps spear? fz him purged aoln slam pet on scout to prevent my ass shot shit...tbh not qq if i didnt enjoy hunter wouldnt play it, all in all but if u think on par with rest ur bit foolish imho, dont mean cant win just means can take more satisfaction out of it than did when played ns etc my POV ofc

/edit try playing class with evade 2 (played with evade one for years) pet who hits for 60 dmg and spear which never hits with 1730 weaponskill , tho ofc when do hit can do fantastic dmg often enough hi der luon 7-800 swing

 

[Adianna]

lol called sarcasm and heard of useing tools at my disposal and high dps spear? fz him purged aoln slam pet on scout to prevent my ass shot shit...tbh not qq if i didnt enjoy hunter wouldnt play it, all in all but if u think on par with rest ur bit foolish imho, dont mean cant win just means can take more satisfaction out of it than did when played ns etc my POV ofc

/edit try playing class with evade 2 (played with evade one for years) pet who hits for 60 dmg and spear which never hits with 1730 weaponskill , tho ofc when do hit can do fantastic dmg often enough hi der luon 7-800 swing

So... you use FZ - an ability i can't even have - you permanently interrupt an archer while fighting with an infiltrator - also an ability i can't even have - and then you complain about only having a two handed weapon and evade 2 - besides you're wearing studded armor which I as nightshade can't use - With mastery of stealth you can see me long before I can see you - Your weaponskill with spear will be higher than any other stealthers weaponskill with a melee weapon (hunters get 1.9 ws modifier on their spear, other stealthers 1.8 on any melee weapon). Now why exactly do you want Evade 7 and two weapons? Wouldn't that just make you overpowered? You can't deny that you have tools and abilities, others don't have and will never have. So don't tell me hunters are underpowered. That is an impression generated by people not knowing how to use their abilities right.

 

[belxavier]

So... you use FZ - an ability i can't even have - you permanently interrupt an archer while fighting with an infiltrator - also an ability i can't even have - and then you complain about only having a two handed weapon and evade 2 - besides you're wearing studded armor which I as nightshade can't use - With mastery of stealth you can see me long before I can see you - Your weaponskill with spear will be higher than any other stealthers weaponskill with a melee weapon (hunters get 1.9 ws modifier on their spear, other stealthers 1.8 on any melee weapon). Now why exactly do you want Evade 7 and two weapons? Wouldn't that just make you overpowered? You can't deny that you have tools and abilities, others don't have and will never have. So don't tell me hunters are underpowered. That is an impression generated by people not knowing how to use their abilities right.

i didnt say underpowered i said on a par? an when i said on a par i meant with other archers who have similar afs and either dual wield or shield and evade 3....i got high ws due to fact i went 50 spear, against a dual wielder think it does much good? not often evade 3 is what i would like but at end of day wasnt even qqing, i found ns easy to play and enjoy hunter more than Diamondback evade 7 etc my choice and i wasnt saying not on par with assasins obviously since compareing to archers but enyway u took alight hearted comment about my hunter and made it into qq ur choice.

/edit oh yeh u get evade stun evade 7 mes pot all things i cant even have and talk about u got tools at ur disposal too and with camo down and detect hidden u see me LONG before i see u (and this in days of no see hidden)

 

[Penguin]

The theurg did not 'join in.' He watched 3 of you impale Sethan, and then told you his feeling on the matter. Thanks, goodnight.

Rude way to share his oppinion, it's up to them how they play the game. I'm sure it had nothing to do with them being scouts, it was just 3 albs killing 1 enemy, my oh my, the horror! Because it's not a war anymore is it? No. Because a few moaning whining people want to solo 1v1 and think everyone should share their view.

Imo if people want to solo - Fine, if people want to group - fine. If a group wants to wipe out a solor, fine. It's a war, you don't just let an enemy walk by. If you want to fair doos but i can't see most people doing that so don't complain.

Too many of these "I got killed by a fg while i was solo" whines these days. If you walk into the frontiers un-prepared then it's your own fault and you shall face the concequences.

Imagine walking into a maths exam without your calculator. Sure you could do the easy questions but when you can't do the hard ones.. i don't want to hear you bitching at others about it.

/shrug maybe a bad comparison but you can only take on a certain ammount as a solor. You enter the frontiers knowing that.

Edit: About the adding, perhaps a RP hungry player, or as Samaroon said - Maybe he was just avoiding being moaned at for adding. It's sad but it's like that these days with all the moaning solors. /cheer for people who solo and don't moan when they get adds / wiped out by a fg.

 

[belxavier]

oh and as for interupt part afaik dot mines still interupt while ticking so can do that in place of pet also adds up dps on both ppl if close then again if not close pet has run over and im prob dead b4 reaches kinda same thing eh :>

 

[Adianna]

Sorry then. I am a little... let's say not in favour of hunters claiming how poor their class preforms against other classes. Got a hunter on Logres complaining "Oh hunters are so weak and futile and so underpowered" and and and. Just trying to excuse his playstyle (he's known as the "Camo-Waiter" on Logres ) and how others don't have to play that way because it's so lame and so on... pretty much like Xianghua when it comes to adding. Just can't bear that shit talk any longer. And as I said, sorry mate.

But you noticed the point... every class has abilites the others don't have and that you have to use them right... otherwise there wouldn't be any sense in making classes different... but the pet won't die from a posion spike. Though I never understood why it has no longer a disarm timer... and they don't interrupt more than once. Ran into to many as bainshee and they didn't interrupt me more than on the initial tick.

 

[belxavier]

Sorry then. I am a little... let's say not in favour of hunters claiming how poor their class preforms against other classes. Got a hunter on Logres complaining "Oh hunters are so weak and futile and so underpowered" and and and. Just trying to excuse his playstyle (he's known as the "Camo-Waiter" on Logres ) and how others don't have to play that way because it's so lame and so on... pretty much like Xianghua when it comes to adding. Just can't bear that shit talk any longer. And as I said, sorry mate.

But you noticed the point... every class has abilites the others don't have and that you have to use them right... otherwise there wouldn't be any sense in making classes different... but the pet won't die from a posion spike. Though I never understood why it has no longer a disarm timer... and they don't interrupt more than once. Ran into to many as bainshee and they didn't interrupt me more than on the initial tick.

no worries m8 as i said im sarcy bast usually self depreciating humour and not meant as whine very rarely will u see me whine unless u join my guild for day or teamspeak server xD \o> zed gets that joy 90% time , but yes ofc hunter is good class and great fun play i love it and wouldnt change for world just often evade 2 seems rather lacking as most nights i can count on one hand how often i get an evade ( and one most powerful spear style's-50spear- gungir's fury 51 odd bleed is 2nd in evade chain-and so rarely used). My NS was retired pre toa so will differ to ur experience since patch just know previously people had dote mined me b4 and couldnt knock bow for many a pulse.

anyway lub all round have no ill feeling towards u since at least put ur POV in a manner that i can appreciate and discuss not like stfu m8s hunter pawn u tard etc

<3 belx

 

[Lorimez Shadowblade]

Rude way to share his oppinion, it's up to them how they play the game. I'm sure it had nothing to do with them being scouts, it was just 3 albs killing 1 enemy, my oh my, the horror! Because it's not a war anymore is it? No. Because a few moaning whining people want to solo 1v1 and think everyone should share their view.

Imo if people want to solo - Fine, if people want to group - fine. If a group wants to wipe out a solor, fine. It's a war, you don't just let an enemy walk by. If you want to fair doos but i can't see most people doing that so don't complain.

Too many of these "I got killed by a fg while i was solo" whines these days. If you walk into the frontiers un-prepared then it's your own fault and you shall face the concequences.

Imagine walking into a maths exam without your calculator. Sure you could do the easy questions but when you can't do the hard ones.. i don't want to hear you bitching at others about it.

/shrug maybe a bad comparison but you can only take on a certain ammount as a solor. You enter the frontiers knowing that.

Edit: About the adding, perhaps a RP hungry player, or as Samaroon said - Maybe he was just avoiding being moaned at for adding. It's sad but it's like that these days with all the moaning solors. /cheer for people who solo and don't moan when they get adds / wiped out by a fg.

Amen! Exactly how I feel. Lets get married!

/bow

 

[Jjuraa]

HEHE .. game acording to jjuraas still looking still see you.. mmmm but ofc your right cos your jjuraas

when you write a sentance i can understand, i will reply.

Jjuraa, what I fail to understand is that you're telling Lori to look at the big picture but you're too narrow minded to think that not all scouts add and shoot anything that moves

its not narrow-mindedness. its lack of evidence.

 

[Adianna]

For the interruption timer thingy... it seems buggy to me since the beginning of DAoC. If you hit any skill that interferes with the timer to often, it sometimes seems to reset itself when reaching 0 for no reason. If you have an interrupt, wait the two or three seconds, then try again.

Ah btw. I've played hunter, although it wasn't mine. 5 stealthers (NS, SB, Inf, Min, Rang - and even 3 went through ToA) were enough to me.

 

[Smellysox]

Dam sux lori mate my view over this is /ignore :l

 

[BigE]

when you write a sentance i can understand, i will reply.




its not narrow-mindedness. its lack of evidence.

^^ when u write something worth knowing i will listen.. until then you don't reply i won't give "$£$£" what you say

both happy

 

[BigE]

Rude way to share his oppinion, it's up to them how they play the game. I'm sure it had nothing to do with them being scouts, it was just 3 albs killing 1 enemy, my oh my, the horror! Because it's not a war anymore is it? No. Because a few moaning whining people want to solo 1v1 and think everyone should share their view.

Imo if people want to solo - Fine, if people want to group - fine. If a group wants to wipe out a solor, fine. It's a war, you don't just let an enemy walk by. If you want to fair doos but i can't see most people doing that so don't complain.

Too many of these "I got killed by a fg while i was solo" whines these days. If you walk into the frontiers un-prepared then it's your own fault and you shall face the concequences.

Imagine walking into a maths exam without your calculator. Sure you could do the easy questions but when you can't do the hard ones.. i don't want to hear you bitching at others about it.

/shrug maybe a bad comparison but you can only take on a certain ammount as a solor. You enter the frontiers knowing that.

Edit: About the adding, perhaps a RP hungry player, or as Samaroon said - Maybe he was just avoiding being moaned at for adding. It's sad but it's like that these days with all the moaning solors. /cheer for people who solo and don't moan when they get adds / wiped out by a fg.

TBH this is the view of the silent majority . play the game how you want and just get on with it.. its only the board QQ whores who like the preach the way we should all play the game according to them..

as said above /ignore works well

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

There were such things in the old times like when Steveh or Gryllus (cant remember exactly) asked a sotl member that where did he got his nice shield, and he answered with "It's too good for you."

 

[Dorin]

There were such things in the old times like when Steveh or Gryllus (cant remember exactly) asked a sotl member that where did he got his nice shield, and he answered with "It's too good for you."

lol yea remember that

 

[stupeh]

Something thats been bugging me for awhile... why is it that people see those who don't add as rp horny? Several times they don't add and their realmmate wins so they get no rp at all, other times the enemy might and they kill them.

Half the time the one who doesn't add won't get any rp at all, while those who add will most likely get rp EVERY time.. surely the adder will accumulate more rp then the one leaving fights?

 

[Belomar]

I personally beleive that someone who cant drink in details in RvR combat, who stays too focused on whatever they're hitting, is someone who doesnt look at the big picture, and thus isnt a reliable source when it comes to making comments about the entire future of MMORPGs.

Heavens, is it possible to be more myopic than this? What does the ability to "drink in details in RvR combat" have to do with anticipating the future of MMORPGs? The poster is complaining about the attitude of people and the harsher atmosphere in the game, and what's more, he is also right.

 

[Lorimez Shadowblade]

Heavens, is it possible to be more myopic than this? What does the ability to "drink in details in RvR combat" have to do with anticipating the future of MMORPGs? The poster is complaining about the attitude of people and the harsher atmosphere in the game, and what's more, he is also right.

Thank you Belomar. Not everyone posting here understood the point of my thread. :worthy:

/bow