Is there any statistical evidence to back up the theory that in rvr its tanks rule?

[old.Nol]

caster, tank, hybrid, rogue & support, true casters can be defined quite simply as those chars that wear cloth.

7 of the top 100 weekly RP earners are casters, so that minus 50 from your original estimation, casters are in a leaky boat at the moment...

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Edlina
but but but that doens't make any sence

Why would you determine casters as all classes that don't tank now when you don't normally?

Didn't cross your mind that people normally means cloth casters? And thus there's no reason for this post since you're not talking about what you normally call casters, but what you normally call support, except in this example you classify them as casters, when normally you don't, but instead classify them as support or whatever?

Just doesn't make sence to me sowwy

well it did to me

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by old.Nol
caster, tank, hybrid, rogue & support, true casters can be defined quite simply as those chars that wear cloth.

7 of the top 100 weekly RP earners are casters, so that minus 50 from your original estimation, casters are in a leaky boat at the moment...

yeah but i was thinking more along the lines of what classes get affected by stuff like determination and so on so i wasnt talking about just cloth casters ie pure casters. if ur talking about pure casters thats great but thats not what i made the thread about

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by Pandemic
yeah but i was thinking more along the lines of what classes get affected by stuff like determination and so on so i wasnt talking about just cloth casters ie pure casters

But no one ever said they were crap (the none pure casters, except maybe hybrids who are crap because they don't have determination)...

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Edlina
But no one ever said they were crap (the none pure casters, except maybe hybrids who are crap because they don't have determination)...

mmm thats what i was assuming when people were reffering to darkageoftankalot ie tanks pwn non tanks due to determination, high resists etc and i was reasonably certain this affected more than just cloth casters

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by Pandemic
mmm thats what i was assuming when people were reffering to darkageoftankalot ie tanks pwn non tanks

/shrug who knows how the mind of trolls work

It's obvious that damage dealers vs damage dealers tanks > casters, but all groups need a mixture of offence and defence (support) so thus all groups need support, and there's not really 2 kind of supports ingame, so you can't compare those.

 

[Pandemic]

well as i already said option A) as people seemed to think i was referring to just pure casters.
maybe i should have chosen a less eye catching title or explained i wasnt referring to just pure casters.

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by bult
no1 ever claimed support chars was bad. Support and casters is NOT the same thing at all.

well they did. a number of people playing classes affected by determination, resists who were non-cloth wearers were calling it darkageoftankalot because of determination, resists

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by zmurf
Ppl who call it Dark Age of Tankalot, doesn't catagorize Shaman/cleric/healer/etc as caster, therefor asking if this 'title' is correct, when ur not using the same basis, makes no sense at all ...

but it was those Shaman/cleric/healer/etc calling it darkageoftankalot due to determination as well as cloth casters which is what i made the thread about

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Whisperess
You just started putting nails into your own coffin mate.

Casters are cloth wearers with organized spell lists from which they can choose the level of the spell they want to cast. ( Healers / Shamans / Clerics etc are getting organized spell lists but won't be able to select the lowest level spell in a specline they've specced high in ).

You are counting support classes as casters - obviously skewing your entire 'proof'.

So - remove those classes from your statement and you have:

Wizard, Eldritch, Enchanter.

Whopdedoo.

You want proof?

Out of the top100 in the world - there are:
18 robed casters ( 20 if you call Valewalkers a caster )
26 determination tanks
6 non-determination tanks that I don't count as support ( thane, champion, valewalker )
49 support ( healers, end-regen providers, speed-providers )

That's roughly 1/2 support, 1/3rd tanks and 1/5th casters.

And to add to finbahr's list:
A caster can't attack when out of power, a tank can still do that - not to mention that endurance regenerates tons faster than power.

And before you say that a caster can attack if rooted - yes, they can, but not if they get root casted on them even when they are 'immune'.

yes but i was including support as a number of them were calling it darkageoftankalot due to such things as determination
so if anything from ur example its certainly not darkageoftankalot

 

[ab_fluid]

gogo more posts, ur counts flying up trying to worm ur way out pandemic xD

 

[elvothesorc]

Casters(Cloth thingies, not support in chain thingies) are viable in RvR, if the grp is right for it, and the enemy is right for the grp.

High RR grps, will wtfpwn caster grps pretty bad.

I've had success putting a spirit caba in a tank grp tho, worked fine.

Mostly, casters depend on 1 thing: Mezz.

If you dont get in that 1 mezz, your just.... busted.

This last week, we (TB) been running with a bit of a experimental PBAoE grp, sometimes works great, sometimes we die like flies. Its all about luck, your enemy and if RAs are up or not.

This was from a pretty big fight yesterday in Odin's
http://brethren.onlinecombat.com/screenshots.aspx?picture=1004&pw=gkeu6wsss0

Magmatic, Fatalitys and Evelina all casters(cloth things).

So casters are still viable, altho not as much as tanks.

 

[)nick(]

For the love of god PLEASE can you now just pick the letter that comes after A (and is not C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z just incase you get confused again and forget to consult your brain before posting)

 

[Garbannoch Nox]

sorry but this thread is just idiotic

i could just as well say everything that can use a shield is a tank;

close this plz - it's not even as entertaining as zerg whine #27678

 

[alme]

they just r00le

 

[sorusi]

Armsman - tank
Cabalist - caster
Cleric - support
Friar - hybrid
Infiltrator - stealther
Mercenary - tank
Minstrel - stealther/hybrid/support (stealther)
Necromancer - caster
Paladin - hybrid
Reaver - hybrid
Scout - stealther
Sorcerer - caster
Theurgist - caster
Wizard - caster

Animist -caster
Bard - support
Blademaster - tank
Champion - hybrid
Druid - support
Eldritch - caster
Enchanter - caster
Hero - tank
Mentalist - caster
Nightshade - stealther
Ranger - stealther
Valewalker - hybrid
Warden - support/hybrid (support)

Berserker - tank
Bonedancer - caster
Healer - support
Hunter - stealther
Runemaster - caster
Savage - tank
Shadowblade - stealther
Shaman - support
Skald - hybrid/support (hybrid)
Spiritmaster - caster
Thane - hybrid
Warrior - tank

last weeks rps wordwide:

47 support
27 tank
16 caster
8 hybrid
2 stealther


now you tell me that casters dont suck

also you should try a caster.. you seem pretty much clueless atm.. go roll a wizard, or something extremely gimped and you will see how balanced the casters are atm (only very FEW are viable these days..) (sorc,theurg,chanter,eld - and in some cases spiritmaster)...

once again SUPPORT ARE NOT CASTERS..... just because they use spell doesnt make them a caster... they are support... they do not wear cloth, they do not use focus, they do not have staffs, they can wear chain, they can equip hammers and stuff...

 

[Belomar]

Re: Re: Is there any statistical evidence to back up the theory that in rvr its tanks rule?

Originally posted by infernalwrath
It was nice but still alb caster are far 2 weak cause of no self debuffing damage and only 2 healing classes in group

HELLO!?!?! Self-debuffing casters, yohoo, every realm has them!?!

 

[Shaki/Aeis]

OMG Pandemic this is one of the most stupid threads I have ever read!

Don't think anyone ever say support chars are bad. And no support chars is not the same as casters.

I would have though a RR8 would know that. But apparently not....

If you want people to imagine support, savages and skalds are all casters say so in the beginning then atleast people get to know it is something silly and not to take serious.


Btw are you making this thread as a joke to see everyones reaction?
If not you are a true troll

 

[enkor]

darkageofsupportalot i guess

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by enkor
darkageofsupportalot i guess

Dark Ages of Support The Tanks A lot