Is the alb realm fair in keeptaking and large raids?

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[NP]ArlaHaren

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Let's see what Mids got to help them.
Spiritmaster. - pbae and nice pets works pretty good, if some1 actually rolled any except vs BAoD which actually makes it useless.
Runecarvers/darkcarvers. -really nice Gtae and darkcarver has nice dmg capability.

Hibs.
Enchanters. - good pbae, doesnt have to face baod, can debuff dd from range and use stun to prevent target from jumping/getting down from battlements. Pets to interfere etc.
A regular basis of pbae grps that is normal in hib. which makes it easier to find good pbaers.
BAoD, make urself immune to magic dmg, ie for rushing lordroom and pwn pwn.

Albs.
SoS. Best RA ingame and very useful if u need to get inside keep, run thru enemy force with relics, do outbreak etc.
VP. If used by 8+ wizard it can easily wipe out an attacking force, lets say mids camp gatekeepers @ relic keep.
X numbers of VP, Sos, run in.
Sorcerer. Boltrange mezz. can run in and mezz with uber radius on maxrange with hibs/mids bein able to do shit. (if albs play smart ofc.)
Minstrel climb. Is this the right thing to give to an already overpowered class? yesyes, say savages needs nerf etc etc. but if played right, a minstrel can be EXTREMELY dangerous.
 
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heath

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I have a sorc....mezz !!!....just try to out mezz an insta.

Also with a mincer....overpowered class !!....and this observation comes from ???

Pray tell.

Edit 1....were you pawned by either a sorc or a mincer??....or did they double team you. Sorc mezzed you while the mincer scaled you and overpowered you with his uberness ((o; (sarcasm off)
 
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Ekydus

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If you play any character right it's dangerous.
If a majority play their characters right you have a dangerous force.

I don't see your point, I merely see another whine.
 
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Aussie-

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a mid talking about "fair"


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Lumikki

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Originally posted by Ekydus
If you play any character right it's dangerous.
If a majority play their characters right you have a dangerous force.
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I agree

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brommix

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Funny...well not really i guess (coming from NP scum), but i would just have thought that in keep takes a healer is quite a good class, especially if you mention minstrels as being uber, but hey its ok, just another little lie from NP hypocrits, goes with the territory dosnt it :) You are obviously so ignorant thats its actually an disgrace to even answer this post, but since it gives me a chance to point to yet another moronic NP ill do it. Your post is so obviously biased that if you tried to use arguments like that in a courtroom, you would be held in contempt and thrown in jail immediately.
You say 8 wizzards with VP could wipe X numbers and so on, well wouldnt 8 spiritmasters be right hard to dislodge, or what if you had 8 savages in lord room or storm with them or 8 healers what about 8 enchanters, also that half of the uber skills these overpowered albs come from RAs seem to slip your ohh so ignorant mind, i dont see how 8 healers who could ress the spiritmasters back to full health and power are that terrible?? We could go on and on, but when you so blatantly leave out obvious advantages from some realms (to discredit other realms), the only conclusion any reasonable individual can make is that this is propegande of its poorest form.
 
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Ilur_oom

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well in zzang's oppinion albs must be super overpowered... lol
zzang reroll alb then m8, what can i say to u, we like playing overpowered :p
 
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old.m0000

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Minstrels overpowered?

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Cheesehound

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Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
Minstrel climb. Is this the right thing to give to an already overpowered class? yesyes, say savages needs nerf etc etc. but if played right, a minstrel can be EXTREMELY dangerous.
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Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
Minstrel climb. Is this the right thing to give to an already overpowered class?
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Puppetmistress

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Hahaha!

You forgot Siege-bolt where we can insta bolt down the doors !
 
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Belomar

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Well, there's plenty to be said here (like, why the heck don't you add AoE DoT casters to the list of nifty keep defense casters, we usually rock in keeps), but I'll just say one thing: GTAoE is very useful when taking a defended keep, and currently only Mids have this in a useful spec line (i.e. a spec line good enough that many spec in it).
 
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old.m0000

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the savage population's average intelligence being shown in this thread.
 
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bahamuts

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can you tell me why minstrel is overpowered? :)) want to feel my 80 dmg? :)
 
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BidAccount

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O dear oh dear oh dear....

So - when they nerf savages, what're half of n00by pride going to roll next?
 
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Gordonax

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Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren

Albs.
SoS. Best RA ingame and very useful if u need to get inside keep, run thru enemy force with relics, do outbreak etc.
VP. If used by 8+ wizard it can easily wipe out an attacking force, lets say mids camp gatekeepers @ relic keep.
X numbers of VP, Sos, run in.
Minstrel climb. Is this the right thing to give to an already overpowered class? yesyes, say savages needs nerf etc etc. but if played right, a minstrel can be EXTREMELY dangerous.
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Oh boy, where to start with this one? First up, SoS is a very good RA, essential for any good group - but it's a long way from an insta-win button, and it certainly doesn't have the minute-by-minute usefulness of the insta-stuns/mezzes that you get without in your normal lines. It gives us - at best - 30 seconds of freedom every 30 minutes, and it's by no means a guarenteed win. I think if you gave any Minstrel the option of swapping SoS for a 31 second insta-AOE mezz on a 10 min timer like the Pac healer has, no one would choose SoS. In fact, think about it - would YOU, as a mid, swap? I doubt it.

Secondly, the climb walls myth. Yes, it's a very nice ability to have when keep taking. But unless the keep is gaurded by absolute idiots, it does very little UNLESS the mincer is accompanied by 2 infiltrators. Yes, I can creep up to the top of a wall and use my single target mezz - forget using the AOE mezz with it's useful 5 second cast time, you'll be dead before you finish it. And then what? I run over to the target (getting peppered with arrows/spells/the kitchen sink along the way) and hit him for, ooh, 80 damage - plus maybe 200 tops from my shouts IF they aren't resisted. Oh, and I end up dead anyway, as I've got rogue hit points.

There are TWO minstrels in the top 50 players by RP on Excalibur. By comparison, there are three bards - and I don't think anyone would say Bards are overpowered. There are two skalds - and we all know how much skalds are supposed to be underpowered.

Minstrels are a great class, nicely balanced and actually speccable in a variety of ways. They're a lot of fun to play. But to claim that they are overpowered just doesn't hold up to analysis.
 
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Gordonax

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Re: Re: Is the alb realm fair in keeptaking and large raids?

Bah, hit EDIT, not QUOTE!!! FOOOOOL!!!! :)
 
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Forau

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Originally posted by bahamuts
can you tell me why minstrel is overpowered? :)) want to feel my 80 dmg? :)
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let me guess, you have 30 stealth and you use SoS to run to apk after your groups died at amg?
 
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xrn

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Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
O dear oh dear oh dear....

So - when they nerf savages, what're half of n00by pride going to roll next?
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Ooh yes because NP has so many savages :eek:
 
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[NP]ArlaHaren

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Originally posted by brommix
Funny...well not really i guess (coming from NP scum), but i would just have thought that in keep takes a healer is quite a good class, especially if you mention minstrels as being uber, but hey its ok, just another little lie from NP hypocrits, goes with the territory dosnt it :) You are obviously so ignorant thats its actually an disgrace to even answer this post, but since it gives me a chance to point to yet another moronic NP ill do it. Your post is so obviously biased that if you tried to use arguments like that in a courtroom, you would be held in contempt and thrown in jail immediately.
You say 8 wizzards with VP could wipe X numbers and so on, well wouldnt 8 spiritmasters be right hard to dislodge, or what if you had 8 savages in lord room or storm with them or 8 healers what about 8 enchanters, also that half of the uber skills these overpowered albs come from RAs seem to slip your ohh so ignorant mind, i dont see how 8 healers who could ress the spiritmasters back to full health and power are that terrible?? We could go on and on, but when you so blatantly leave out obvious advantages from some realms (to discredit other realms), the only conclusion any reasonable individual can make is that this is propegande of its poorest form.
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Yea hey talk about biased.
I SAID ALBS WERE OVERPOWERED IN LARGE KEEP / RELIC RAID, Nothing else.

And minstrel IS overpowered. SOS IS overpowered in relic raids.

So try understanding the post before calling me savage noob. kk.
 
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Aussie-

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on US 50 hibs almost took a relic with schroomarmy !!!!!
f00king overpowered isnt it xDDDDDDD
 
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brommix

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1 I didnt call you a savage noob..!! i call you a moronic idiot.

2nd you still forget to address why mids own AOE classes, healers shamans spiritmasters dont compare at all to a minstrel ?? and to be honest i dont see why SOS is so great inside a keep, its much better outside where you have the advantage of using your freedom of movement. No sir, you are a total clueless fool.
 
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Gordonax

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Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
Yea hey talk about biased.
I SAID ALBS WERE OVERPOWERED IN LARGE KEEP / RELIC RAID, Nothing else.

And minstrel IS overpowered. SOS IS overpowered in relic raids.
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I think I've shown why it's not. Care to show me why I'm wrong?

Hell, care to level a mincer to 50 yourself and find out?
 
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[NP]ArlaHaren

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Originally posted by Gordonax
I think I've shown why it's not. Care to show me why I'm wrong?

Hell, care to level a mincer to 50 yourself and find out?
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How too stop a grp with 4 minstrels from reaching atk if they carry relic?

And because most minstrels on excal uses sos for personal escape and speccs stealth high, play as main tank etc.
Best grp minstrel afaik: Kranez, uses sos as offensive wpn and is gimpsec due to respecc, still does more dmg than any other minstrel out there.
 
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