Is it fun to add?

[gwal]

nice post, and yeah, would be nice. but it´s a dream that wont ever come true. every1 adds when they get the chance to do it (in emain), they do, u do, we do, dont really need to go further back than to this evening to see NP add on us when we were up against 2Fg mids, and same for us vs NP.

seen ppl stay out of fights between others they pass by in odins, but cant really remember seeing it in emain. yeah, have had some fights go on where we dont move to em, but we move elswhere, I´m sure many others have had that too. but it´s rare that any1 passes by a fight i nemain and dont add.

but thb. being a good rvr guild comes with its penalties - every1 in the enemy realms wanna kill u, and if they will do it by adding or zerging, as .. well, obviously they cant in fg vs fg, else they would be the good rvr guild themselves

and yes, fg vs fg rvr is by far the most fun part of daoc, and it is what every1 should seek to get on the battlefield. but a lot of ppl dont play much or/and they build grp´s that cant do fg vs fg well enough, and so they zerg or leech. as much as I´d love for fg vs fg fights to be left alone, there are plenty uncapable of doing those fights well enough for it ever to happen.

and ofc, then theres the issue with RP´s - leechie leechie, and u aint ever gonna get ppl to say "nah, forget it, it´s just rp´s, let em have their fun" (not in emain anyways)

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by zlair
omg....

ur actually saying that mids on excal rocks, hence :

* mids on pryd sucks (meaning hibs and albs on excal sucks)
* albs on pryd rocks (meaning albs on excal sucks)

Hibs on prydwen are good too =D
Or maybe just spending too much time in emain =D
look at their top100 =D

 

[kenshee-himura]

Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
But his grps Never never leave any1 alone. if they see 2fg albs fighting NP, they will attack for sure. And that gives them the really bad reputation that they might not deserve, but almost

Got maybe a point but 2FG random albs have maybe 45% chance of winning vs NP

But for the rest you got a point

 

[mastade]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Is it fun to know that alb/pryd laugh at excalibur albs?

Its cuz pryd hibs and mids suck so much even albs can kill em..

 

[vesta]

Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren

BC has been called backupcompany by the exact same reason, they always "add" if the opportunity is given.

Who made Emain NPs private RP farm zone???

If you dont like "adds" as you call it, and if you wanna run around and THINK you have l337 skillz maybe try rvr in another zone and stop whining here ok?

BC is a ACTIVE guild with MANY members, its not a fucking inbreed fotm guild, ok?

Atleast we try to have fun in game with the people online.

We call outlaw and zoyster the Overlords yes. But i think they also dont give a flying f*ck about what people think, they too pay the same amount of cash for this game, why SHOULD they care what people think?

 

[miffo-]

Originally posted by bellum
Is it fun to add ?

Is it fun to play the most overpowered realm atm ?

Knowing that you will win a 1fg vs 1fg because healer and savage are superior and overpowered.

ehm, they dont win all 1fg vs 1fg fights. Dunno what kind of grps u are in but, get a nice grp and u can take em out...

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
VÅGA VÄGRA ZERG.

typ

 

[tazzke]

We call outlaw and zoyster the Overlords yes. But i think they also dont give a flying f*ck about what people think, they too pay the same amount of cash for this game, why SHOULD they care what people think?

thats not true... everyday i have to see Outlaw & Zoyster cry all alone in the corner of the telepad...cause some bullies called them zergers

 

[[BF]ilur]

Well for sure it is fun to add for NP not prolly for the other realms since when u die is not fun... Was just having a fair fight against mid zerg in 1fg =P and then all of a sudden NP FG joins and adds.. fair enough to ask other realms not to add... silly imo when u are the first ones to do it...

 

[grimster]

Well I rather get bitched at for leeching, than for not helping my fellow realm mates.

Either way I don't really care anyway, as long as you NP don't pay my monthly fee or noone else for that matter I play exactly how I want, cuz frankly and to be egoistic...I couldnt care less about anyone elses fun but my own and my good m8's.

If that means I like to add I will, If I feel like not leeching, I will not leech.

But no I don't try to ruin anyone's game either...cuz how could I really...in this safe RvR enviroment that DAOC is, you don't lose shit by dieing.

 

[Denisée]

Got proof that BC 'don't' try to run fg but more likely 2fg to streamrole everyone in Emain.

Oh and btw I know how it is to have assisting tanks on me, have used to have all tanks + gunner and a cleric on me in fights. The time I don't die is because the other seers try keep me alive

Oh and btw to everyone claim Savages hit so hard, I got to add:
There is no way you can tell that a Savage did quad on you if you have not made a chat.log !!!

 

[old.Zeikerd]

You guys bore me.
When 2 infils are killing an SB, I try to get the killing shot if I can. I always try it. Even if there are 2 fg beating 1 dude and I get there then I try it.

And about mids not 'adding', what a crap. Everyone adds.

 

[kaod]

Originally posted by old.Zeikerd
And about mids not 'adding', what a crap. Everyone adds.

You might be suprised then at the language that comes out of some Mids for people adding, and also the times you would appreciate a bit of help and they wait till you die before engaging. (You don't always get a rezz neither)

 

[old.Zeikerd]

They only do that to get more rps themselves.

 

[Ziva]

Since there is no rule for not beeing allowed to add you might aswell get used to it.

People should deceide for themselves if they want to add or not but imho people should stop flaming realmmates for "stealing" realmpts cause thats just utter bullshit. Your realmmate has as much right to kill the enemy as you so don't act like you own enemies cause you simply don't.

And to the topicstarter: how about hibs fighting albs at amg and both get ran over by your little NP zerg. If you want to whine about adding, you might think of this scenario too cause it's also adding even though both are enemies.

Sure it would be nice if people took the time to explore what's going on before running into fights like headless chickens, i bet most would even find it enjoyable to watch others fight but since most people suffer from beeing rptshorny i doubt this would ever happen.

 

[orslaugth]

Zzz..[NP] never add you say? fo I say..have been killed many times by NP adding to a fg (not NP) we had a fair fight with..before the NP backup came..

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by orslaugth
Zzz..[NP] never add you say? fo I say..have been killed many times by NP adding to a fg (not NP) we had a fair fight with..before the NP backup came..

I've seen them leave a fair fight quite often tho

No-one's perfect, and of course they add sometimes, it's inevitable, but I've seen NP avoid adding more than any other guild.

Having said that, it's a game, people should play it the way they want to. If it doesn't suit your perspective, deal with it, they're entitled to their perspective as much as you are entitled to yours.

 

[orslaugth]

I don´t care if NP add to another fg IF they admit they´re doing it..and I don´t care if NP run more then 1fg (rare but it happends) IF they admit they´re doing it..I know they are very skilled players and they have my respect but when they lie about such silly things to look more ûber.. :sleeping:

 

[old.Zoyster]

Zzang u must be new to NP. Coz Np actually dictate alot the way we RvR, back in the early days it was NP that roamed as 2FG, bieng unbeatable by any other FG. So we had roam in larger groups. It was midds that started camping AMG in early days, so Albs camped MMG for revenge. It is NP that hide Behind the grave and coem up and gank before u even leave Atk (this I hate). And Most deffinately, It is NP that Come from nowhere and Spank once we have beaten others, when we r low in power and split up. This has happens sooo many times I forget. So as much as I like your points, it very rich. But, if it your new mentality then good luck.

 

[bracken_woodman]

Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren


It is NOT fun to zerg. the fun is in challenging fights where u can use teamplay to take out another team.

ie fg vs fg.
.

It is fun to have even fights - whether that be zerg v zerg, fg v fg or 1v1. It is uneven fights that suck.

On the whole though you made some fair points - even if the NP hypocrasy is strong these days.

 

[mehuge]

Even fights regardles of size are what I find *most* fun provided you got the hardware to cope with it.

Uneven fights can be fun too, especially if you fair well considering the odds.

Zerg wipes are frustrating but a fact of life in RvR.

It also depends how you defined "even". 1fg v 1fg does not automatically mean an even fight in terms of "balance", so saying 1fg v 1fg is the rule does not make sense if your goal is even balanced fights.

I am sure 1fg NP > 1fg most other 1fg's in terms of RL's and equipment. Might be "fun" for NP but probably not so fun for the other group.

Only even fights you will ever encounter are either occasional random fights that happen to be fairly evenly matched which will probably not be the norm

or...

pre-arranged fights which can be played out somewhere quiet (ad-hoc 1fg tournaments arranged via irc perhaps).

 

[old.Mousah]

What will you want next....stopsigns in emain?

 

[schinkaar]

trafic lights at MG:s whould rock imo, really sux when i try to roleplay as a taxicab with my skald.

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by [NP]ArlaHaren
I have played both hib and mid on excal, experiencing same thing on both realms.

All enemies, mid, hib, alb. tend to "add" in fights, no matter what.

They add if 2fg friends vs 1fg enemies, they add if 1 fg vs 1fg, they add if 2 fg enemies vs 1fg friends.

And this makes the feeling of Zerg really big.

I know we have done this in np too, but we kind of try to leave fg vs fg fights alone (if we are not to rp horny due to empty emain etc) but mostly, we just say "Leave" "Do not interfere" if we see 1fg friends vs 1fg enemies.

There is always the "FFS CG USING MFERS STOP ZERGING" For every realm.

Maybe, u shouldnt as grp leader, head directly and slam into everything if u see it's a fair fight.

And, to ask for place of death, ie i see a fg mids die, some1 ask where they died, we get like. "tower" we run there, and maybe, ruining their fight. where one of them had already won or the other team had some chance etc.

I dislike other ppl leeching, i bet all do. I dislike zerging. if i see 2fg mids killing 1fg albs/hibs. i just stand by and do emotes.

Not to tell every1 "hey im the best, do like me, u all suck"

But, trie to look over the situation before u charge in, and ruin fights for others.

I can understand ppl adding on NP when they kill "randoms" etc.

And, Outlaw a.k.a. Overmind, maybe isnt a zergleader or cg holder or the one in control of all albs.

But his grps Never never leave any1 alone. if they see 2fg albs fighting NP, they will attack for sure. And that gives them the really bad reputation that they might not deserve, but almost

So, think about it, see if ur friends are winning, enemy is outnumbered or fight is going on and is fair. maybe u could go on without interfering?

BC has been called backupcompany by the exact same reason, they always "add" if the opportunity is given.

Hope u have the time to read. :sleeping:

right zzang.. everything about this "we dont add in fg fights is just totally bs? " I saw that today. Very nice.

 

[cougar-]

Re: Re: Is it fun to add?

Originally posted by Freppe^^
right zzang.. everything about this "we dont add in fg fights is just totally bs? " I saw that today. Very nice.

you had cly eyes?

 

[chrstffr]

Originally posted by old.Mousah
What will you want next....stopsigns in emain?

No trafficlights plz, im red/green colourblind :x

 

[Ensceptifica]

If I see my fellow hibbies fight, I try to help them. It's not because I want to leech rps, but because I try to keep my fellow hibbies from dying. If I see 3fg hibs camping a milegate and killing occasional invaders, I don't go camping with them. If I see there's too many hibs in a frontier / too few enemies, I go look somewhere else.