Is CS finished ?

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old.[Father]Ted#

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No, not finished as in going to end, but can they (Gooseman et al) do anymore to improve it without ruining the sense of balance/bias?

I know everyone wants this weapon or that in there, but has anyone got a suggestion that would make it better for EVERYONE, not just them or the T's or CT's or old timers.

So, finally is CS at its peak? Is it already screwed? Can it only get better? Discuss my children, discuss.
 
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Nibbler

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Well, i think mebbeh they should put a double barreled shotgun in there, where you have to reload it after 2 shots.

Then I think they should leave it and just keep adding maps :)
 
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old.[Father]Ted#

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Dearie me. Double barrelled shotgun or a flamethrower? You've played CS before haven't you? Its not Doom. Nevermind, I agree that they should add more maps.
 
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old.Anatoly

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How about a HE grenade launcher on the mp5 or m4 :D
You would still have to buy the grenades like you atm, u would fire them using alt fire instead of throwing them you would still only be able to carry one though.

Like the idea of a double barrel shotty, it could be a big farmer'ish/antique (like the type you would expect a broke terrorist to have) one, dead cheap, innaccurate but powerful at close range. Probably wouldnt be much use though

To be fair though I think they have most different types of weapons covered, any more are a bit gimmicky, I mean does anyone use the UMP regularly?

[Edited by Anatoly on 01-05-01 at 16:50]
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by [Father]Ted#
Dearie me. Double barrelled shotgun or a flamethrower? You've played CS before haven't you? Its not Doom. Nevermind, I agree that they should add more maps.
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It would be fun would it not ? OK, tear-gas then ? Makes yer screen go wonky and slows u down. Hows about that ? :)
 
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Ch3tan

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Tear gas is the only sensible solution so far.

However what would be better is if they fixed flas bangs so they actually FLASH and BANG. That emans deafen momentarely as well as blind. That would perfect the game.
 
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old.M@atrix[UC_UK]

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I recon u should be able to choose yer shape cursor u want like many other games cause the one they use is kack!!!!!!
Also they need lots more maps and perhaps some new game style's instaed of de_ cs_ and as_ .
 
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old.Anatoly

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tear gas sound like a good idea, how about a gas mask to counteract the efects as well.

no doubt some people would moan about the models that already have a gas mask though
 
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Nibbler

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Originally posted by [Father]Ted#
Dearie me. Double barrelled shotgun or a flamethrower? You've played CS before haven't you? Its not Doom. Nevermind, I agree that they should add more maps.
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The flamethrower idea is over the top but i'm perfectly serious about the double barreled shotgun, as are some people on the CS forums so phnar :p.
 
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old.Reaps

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More maps is a great idea, as for more weapons i don't know. Take a look at urban terror for q3, soon as you add a grenade launcher or anything else along those lines it makes the game more like a cartoon. Picture it, your running up to the house on cs_militia, not one person with an awp in sight, you reach the main courtyard and.... every cunt is camping on the roof with a gren launcher and spams them all down. Not much skill in that is there? :) Maybe a variation on the weapons that are already there as i'm sure there are alot of different rifles that could be used etc. I think i'll stop there, feel free to moan :p

_Reaps_

Addition: Before someone suggests it, different player classes is NOT a good idea. I don't like TFC or Tribes because they have them. You get bogged down trying to choose who you want to go and before you know it your dead or you wish you'd taken another class, would ruin cs as we know it.

[Edited by Reaps on 02-05-01 at 03:37]
 
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old.Carl1ng

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Some new maps would be good but it would be just as good to have some of the older maps back in the map cycle. Also what about some sort of plastic explosive that can only be used on certain walls on certain maps (like assault)and only one can be bought per team per game. ;)

feel free to flame :0
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by Anatoly
tear gas sound like a good idea, how about a gas mask to counteract the efects as well.

no doubt some people would moan about the models that already have a gas mask though
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Guess they'd have to be redrawn without masks as well as with. OK, so the SAS (etc...) probably usually go in with gasmasks rather than buying them but then they generally go in with decent weapons rather than buying those so it's no different to how the game is atm.

Attack dogs ? No ? OK, sorry :D
 
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Nibbler

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How about the ability to buy cars for $16000?



*SPLAT*


*ZOOM*



*OW!*



Why are you throwing things at me?
 
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old.M@atrix[UC_UK]

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Binoculars and them things that let u look round corners..........
 
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Ch3tan

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Originally posted by M@atrix[UC_UK]
Binoculars and them things that let u look round corners..........
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You mean mirrors.

DOH!!!!
 
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Stazbumpa

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Periscopes, thats what they are! :)

Tear gas would be nice but that would mean the SAS model would be redundant.
Making body armour more effective would be a better idea.
As it is, flak jackets are pretty useless except against glancing hits, but they could be more effective against grenades coz thats what they do in real life; they don't stop bullets beyond the 9mm pistol variety as a rule.
Also grenades could be made more effective against peeps who DON'T have flak jackets on.

Apart from that, more maps and either rectify the old ones or get rid of them entirely (mentioning no Estates...I mean names).
The weapons are about right. But the netcode is slightly skewiff.
 
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Nibbler

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A new scenario would be good.

You could have like, the T's have a briefcase full of money or secret doucuments, and the Ct's have to kill the T's, collect the briefcase and get to a safe point. It would be like a game of breifcase tag!
 
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old.Anatoly

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Yes, some sort of game type where you cant just win by killing the opposition may promote more proper team work and less death match.

CSNation currently have a mailbag on this subject, good suggestions from that seem to include the tear gas, a gas mask to nullify the tear gas but which reduces your field of vision, and a new machine gun, possibly one that you have to go prone to fire.

Both of theses seem like interesting suggestions, but the prone machine would possibly be a little useless on many maps because they are so fast paced you wouldnt have chance to set it up, plus it may only promote the spray and pray tactics that are hated by some players.
 
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old.ollyitus

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nah

adding too much makes games overcomplicated. People would end up spending minutes buying equipment without scripts and it would spoil the game. The only things which would improve it would be new scenarios and better maps (deleting the old shitty ones)+ improved hostage AI. No one can argue with that after playing 747.
 
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old.ollyitus

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map

Has anyone played perfect dark. It is obviously old now and but was good for a time. If so do you not think a remoddelled villa would make a wicked new map. You would get dropped off by boat at the end and by helicopter and have to storm the villa.

Of course u would HAVE to get rid of that stupid talking computer and that retarded alien in the tuxedo
 
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old.[CoFR]Timber_Wolf

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No CS is by no means finished.

At the cs.net site we have at least 20 new people, a day, signing up for the forums.

And CS is still, by figures, the most online played game to date.

Maps and weapons seem to be the most popular choices of gamers but I think minor changes to the netcode are of paramount importance.
Also the increase of cheaters using the GL hack is a major problem and is being addressed - but people will always be able to *crack* the code.

Expect some new and exciting things over the next few CS updates but dont expect to CS 2.0 until the TF2 engine is finished and released.

If you want things to happen or have suggestions then come on over the general forum.


http://forums.counter-strike.net/forumdisplay.php?s=c6397bdf79ce8d8cf910cc30533e9e1a&forumid=1

/timb3r
http://www.cofr.net
http://www.counter-strike.net
 
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Ch3tan

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Re: nah

Originally posted by ollyitus
adding too much makes games overcomplicated. People would end up spending minutes buying equipment without scripts and it would spoil the game. The only things which would improve it would be new scenarios and better maps (deleting the old shitty ones)+ improved hostage AI. No one can argue with that after playing 747.
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Nothing wrong with 747.
 
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Wij

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I think he was mainly referring to the hostage AI. They suck hard on 747 :/
 
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old.ollyitus

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yes

I was reffering solely to the AI. In theory 747 is a great map, unless 8 terrorists decide to camp in the cargo area. THe point about the maps was seperate. I hate some of the maps such as backalley (that is only my opinion).
 
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