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Anyone else think Iran having nuclear weapons a little worrying ?

They might not have them now, but its only a matter of time lets be honest.

Iran is not exactly famed for its political stability and religious tolerance. Iran's leader is an man of extreme political and religious beliefs. He's on record as saying that he wants Israel wiped off the face of the map. If Iran goes live with nuclear weapons, this man will have the ability and authority to launch them.
 

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I think the USA having nuclear weapons is alil worrying. But sure, the next time someone uses nuclear weapons in warfare its likely to involve Israel and its enemies somehow.
 

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yes it is worrying. and without fucking about saying im not being racist etc i think no they shouldnt have them.

no one really should tbh. but if some people do then i believe they should be going without.
 

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Fana said:
I think the USA having nuclear weapons is alil worrying.

But the USA is not likely to lauch an unprovoked thermonuclear attack on another country solely on anti-semitic reasons. In the utterly remote possibility that this would happen, Bush would be removed. Quickly and easily.

No one (other than Mosad or the SAS) is gonna remove the Iranian premiere. The entire country is behind him.
 

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Fana said:
I think the USA having nuclear weapons is alil worrying. But sure, the next time someone uses nuclear weapons in warfare its likely to involve Israel and its enemies somehow.

Hmm think of it this way

Iran nukes Isreal

Usa nukes Iran

North Korea nukes the Usa

The Uk nukes Korea

China sits back and laughs

In the end, the Chinese will end up being supreme
 

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Lamp said:
But the USA is not likely to lauch an unprovoked thermonuclear attack on another country solely on anti-semitic reasons. In the utterly remote possibility that this would happen, Bush would be removed. Quickly and easily.

No one (other than Mosad or the SAS) is gonna remove the Iranian premiere. The entire country is behind him.


Mehh.. Iran is ruled by islamic fundamentalists, USA is ruled by christian fundamentalists. And tbh i doubt anyone could remove Bush today, wouldnt be surprised if he enacts a coup and stays in power when his mandate runs out. After all, only reason he is in power at this time is because of cheating at the latest election.
 

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Thadius said:
In the end, the Chinese will end up being supreme

They still need to get RR12 to pwn tho ;)
 

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Fana said:
Mehh.. Iran is ruled by islamic fundamentalists, USA is ruled by christian fundamentalists. And tbh i doubt anyone could remove Bush today, wouldnt be surprised if he enacts a coup and stays in power when his mandate runs out. After all, only reason he is in power at this time is because of cheating at the latest election.

If you were to put a bet on at your local Ladbrookes for who is more likely to launch the next nuclear weapon, would you honestly hand on your heart choose Bush over the Iranian leader ? ?
 

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Us is a joke.... fucking up the world for own interests :twak: :twak: :twak:

And quite frankly im more worried about bush HAVING nukes, that some raghead country that soon maybe will have...
 

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Lamp said:
If you were to put a bet on at your local Ladbrookes for who is more likely to launch the next nuclear weapon, would you honestly hand on your heart choose Bush over the Iranian leader ? ?

Dunno, not knowledgeable enough about current middle east affairs to make an educated guess. What i do know is that the USA is the only nation that has ever used nuclear weapons in warfare, so they have that precedent at least. At a guess, nuclear weapons will definetly be employed within the next 20 years when world oil reserves will be at an all time low and the industrial countries of the west will be scrambling to get their hands on what little is left (i.e. by invading countries in the middle east).
 

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Lamp said:
But the USA is not likely to lauch an unprovoked thermonuclear attack on another country solely on anti-semitic reasons. In the utterly remote possibility that this would happen, Bush would be removed. Quickly and easily.

No one (other than Mosad or the SAS) is gonna remove the Iranian premiere. The entire country is behind him.
i hope mosad and any religious terror organization dies of anal infection :/ but tbh no country should have them and if nuclear war starts iran wont be the biggest enemy, they wont launch it, they know the power of the isreal allies...
 

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Bush and the USA wouldnt fire nukes first.

USA/UK and other like countries are run around Politics, its a very thin line of protection where in our society every thing we do is flamed by the media which can make or break a leader.

Now in the middle east, its all done by religion, so if one man says enough he is doing this (insert any religious statement) then others will follow.
 

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Nuclear weapons in general are scary. "We have the power to blow up the entire world 48 times!" Why?? 1 is more than enough. Calm the fuck down and stop making nukes.

To be more politcal ;)
I'm not nearly as afraid of the "western" super powers as i would be about middleeastern countries. I mean, isn't it just the capacity to make the worlds largest suicide bombing ever? wiping out everyone...
 
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You guys should stop watching that TV, its bad for you. If you watch it long enuff u will find out that whole populatiuon of Iran eats babies and drow kittens in lakes ;(

Amaga evul Muslim Terrorists are going to nuke teh World! Omigosh, BUSH SAVE US!!!1111 Bring FREEDOM to our countries!111
 

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Bush and the USA wouldnt fire nukes first.

No, they don´t need to. They´re (according to them) in a military and economical position to control who´s allowed to have nuclear weapons and who´s not, knowing that if any "rebel" dares to ignite a single nuke, they could nuke the hell out of him and still sit on a morally and ethically superior position. That´s the luxory of being the stronger part in a fight. You don´t need to use all your weapons.

USA already started a war based upon lies and propaganda. So apparently, the media are not only a tool to flame and break a leader, but also a tool to manipulate and sedate the masses.

No, I wouldn´t want to see Iran having nuclear weapons. But then, I wouldn´t want to see any country with those bombs. The thing is: can we trust out glorious leaders after all the stunts they have performed in the past few years?
 

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Lamp said:
Anyone else think Iran having nuclear weapons a little worrying ?

They might not have them now, but its only a matter of time lets be honest.

Iran is not exactly famed for its political stability and religious tolerance. Iran's leader is an man of extreme political and religious beliefs. He's on record as saying that he wants Israel wiped off the face of the map. If Iran goes live with nuclear weapons, this man will have the ability and authority to launch them.

Iran doesnt have nuclear weapons, its attempting to start a nuclear power generation program, which in turn could be used to produced enriched uranium for use in bombs. Its a matter of quite some time before they do, Iran are well know for playing up their abilites, its highly likely that their nuclear research is at a lot lower level than you think.

Should we deny a country the ability to produce its own nuclear fuel? Its hypocritcal to deny them it while nuclear technology (and bombs) are used/made widely used in most of the western world, India, Pakistan etc.

Press snippets like the 'wipe Israel off the map' thing are Iranian rethoric that goes on every day, its nothing new, the fact that it even was reported in the west just shows that someone is shaping our media and your opinions for their own ends..

When Iran gets nuclear weapons, its doubtfull they will ever be used. Nuclear weapons are a great deterant, you would have to be awfully silly to nuke a country that has allies and its own however much you wished their country wasnt there...
 

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
No, they don´t need to. They´re (according to them) in a military and economical position to control who´s allowed to have nuclear weapons and who´s not, knowing that if any "rebel" dares to ignite a single nuke, they could nuke the hell out of him and still sit on a morally and ethically superior position. That´s the luxory of being the stronger part in a fight. You don´t need to use all your weapons.

USA already started a war based upon lies and propaganda. So apparently, the media are not only a tool to flame and break a leader, but also a tool to manipulate and sedate the masses.

No, I wouldn´t want to see Iran having nuclear weapons. But then, I wouldn´t want to see any country with those bombs. The thing is: can we trust out glorious leaders after all the stunts they have performed in the past few years?

agreed
 

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give everyone pillow bombs (bombs filled with feathers) and make them fight out world problems in a massive mud wrestle fight. Watch Jordan be voted next PM then
 

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It interests me that Iran is busy spending money on its nuclear program.... yet they aren't willing to spend money on helping the poor move out of their hovels?
 

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Sparx said:
give everyone pillow bombs (bombs filled with feathers) and make them fight out world problems in a massive mud wrestle fight. Watch Jordan be voted next PM then

During wars in the ancient world (BC etc) casulties were usually around 10% civilians and 90% soldiers - on occasion armies would even disperse after a champion/leader was defeated in single combat or fell in the frontline of battle. During wars in the modern day its more like 10% soldiers and 90% civilans - all the leaders sit safe in bunkers deep underground or in airplanes high above ground etc. If an all out atomic war was fought it would be more like 99.9% civilians.

The more "civilized" we become the more fucked up the world gets.
 

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Pretarded said:
Amaga evul Muslim Terrorists are going to nuke teh World! Omigosh, BUSH SAVE US!!!1111 Bring FREEDOM to our countries!111

I know it's ohh so foty to hate bush, but realisticly islamic fundamentalist are so much more likely to blow everything up than anyone else.
I'm not a Bush fan, and i don't see the US as the great saviour. But i have no fear of the US going nuts and nuking some country.
 

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Fana said:
During wars in the ancient world (BC etc) casulties were usually around 10% civilians and 90% soldiers - on occasion armies would even disperse after a champion/leader was defeated in single combat or fell in the frontline of battle. During wars in the modern day its more like 10% soldiers and 90% civilans - all the leaders sit safe in bunkers deep underground or in airplanes high above ground etc. If an all out atomic war was fought it would be more like 99.9% civilians.

The more "civilized" we become the more fucked up the world gets.

in the ancient world the greeks (or the mycenae civilization) sometimes settled a battle by letting the strongest man from both army fight each other :)

(sorry for being so off-topic)
 

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Coldbeard said:
in the ancient world the greeks (or the mycenae civilization) sometimes settled a battle by letting the strongest man from both army fight each other :)

(sorry for being so off-topic)

Less watching the spanjard for you /slap

Too stir up the kettle a bit more keep in mind the islam is 500 years younger then cristianity... Now where were we 500 years ago ;)
 

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in the ancient world the greeks (or the mycenae civilization) sometimes settled a battle by letting the strongest man from both army fight each other

In that case, we should be affraid, because the USA have Chuck Norris :(
 

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USA is the only place that needs nukes, cause we know what to do with them! yeeeehaw not rlly. no one should have them
 

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It worries me that they are now capable of enriching uranium, that means they can produce weapons grade material for nuclear bombs/missles. If Iran can produce this stuff unchecked then it is only a matter of time before some goes missing and ends up in a dirty bomb which will be set off in a major western city. When that happens we are all fucked. If someone attacks a NATO member with nuclear weapons then all bets are off and you really are looking at World War 3 and when I say that I don't mean an all out nuclear war, I mean years of land battles raging across the middle east and a scramble to secure the oil fields. I am just glad my back is fucked, wouldn't want to be going to war just to keep the oil companies in buisness.
 

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i am convinced the biggest oil company in the world alrdy has an alternative for oil... They been buying rights too all kind of inventions on that area for decades. So they will squeeze some more money out of the oil industry and then have an alternative ready... Probably if they are smart (wich those basterds are) they will have some factories ready too shit out modern day T-Fords like a frat house on a weeks diët of spoilt chinese food for that revelution. So if you wanne make some money buy some Stocks in The Shell company and be proud, as it is the Dutch and English masterpiece in ripping the world off...
 

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Phooka said:
i am convinced the biggest oil company in the world alrdy has an alternative for oil... They been buying rights too all kind of inventions on that area for decades. So they will squeeze some more money out of the oil industry and then have an alternative ready... Probably if they are smart (wich those basterds are) they will have some factories ready too shit out modern day T-Fords like a frat house on a weeks diët of spoilt chinese food for that revelution. So if you wanne make some money buy some Stocks in The Shell company and be proud, as it is the Dutch and English masterpiece in ripping the world off...


Cold fusion all ready exists, it has just been covered up by the oil companies because there is very little money to be made from selling power generated by cold fusion. The technology should provide abundant power at very low cost, everyone knows that the raw material for is practically free so there will be riots if they tried to charge the same kind of prices we pay at the moment. It just doesn't make good buisness sense for these people to allow cold fusion to come out until the oil wells run dry. Mark my words, when those wells run dry someone will amazingly discover how to create cold fusion and the crisis will be over, the oil companies several hundred billion dollars richer.
 

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Cold fusion all ready exists, it has just been covered up by the oil companies because there is very little money to be made from selling power generated by cold fusion. The technology should provide abundant power at very low cost, everyone knows that the raw material for is practically free so there will be riots if they tried to charge the same kind of prices we pay at the moment. It just doesn't make good buisness sense for these people to allow cold fusion to come out until the oil wells run dry. Mark my words, when those wells run dry someone will amazingly discover how to create cold fusion and the crisis will be over, the oil companies several hundred billion dollars richer.

thats more or less what i said yeh :D but im not sure about cold fusion as it is a very hard too achieve and 'control' but im not a nuclear scientist else i wouldnt be typing in this silleh forum now would I :drink:
 

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Phooka said:
thats more or less what i said yeh :D but im not sure about cold fusion as it is a very hard too achieve and 'control' but im not a nuclear scientist else i wouldnt be typing in this silleh forum now would I :drink:

There have been a number of research groups that were supposedlybeen very close to a break through, next thing you know the funding goes or the project 'fails' and the teams are swiftly broken up.
 

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