Internet lies.. what are our rights as an average Joe?

[Cdr]

Slander is spoken. Libel is printed.

That simple

Not strictly true.

Libel is defamation in some permanent form, slander is a statement of a like kind in a transient form

So while saying something is slanderous, a recording of someone saying something is libel.

There are lots of difference between slander and libel - none of which I shall bore you with now

 

[ArrrImmaPir8!]

Stop reading his site. Get on with your life. All a legal battle will do is cost you money and in the end these things can rarely be won due to this being opinion.

He's totally writing words on internet though!

 

[Danyan]

Not strictly true.

Libel is defamation in some permanent form, slander is a statement of a like kind in a transient form

So while saying something is slanderous, a recording of someone saying something is libel.

There are lots of difference between slander and libel - none of which I shall bore you with now

Stuff on websites is considered libel though. It's at least as permenent as a recording after all.

 

[SawTooTH]

He's totally writing words on internet though!

Have you heard of him though? Nope and I reckon no one else is really interested in him either. Whats he's done is childish and because of this its his reputation thats on the line.

 

[Cdr]

Stuff on websites is considered libel though. It's at least as permenent as a recording after all.

I never said it wasn't.

All I was just saying is that the definition of libel and slander isn't as clear as 'Ones spoken, the other is written'.

 

[Skyler]

At the end of the day most of the people that read it are friends or people he will know, and as for the random user factor they are just random people from nowhere... never likely to ever meet you or know anything about you above and beyond what he says... it doesnt matter that they hate you or that they support him because they don't have a clue about the situation anyway.

If anyone you know friends/family read it then I would think they would side with you and tell you about it. If anyone you know reads it and then doesn't talk to you or backs him up then they aren't worth knowing anyway...

It's a pity he feels the need to do things like this to you but I think it's obviously a sign he is probably upset at losing you.

Fire a complaint to his hosts, if they wont do anything then just get on with your life and let him say what he wants.

 

[Danyan]

I never said it wasn't.

All I was just saying is that the definition of libel and slander isn't as clear as 'Ones spoken, the other is written'.

Indeed, I didn't mean to imply you were saying that - just to clarify for anyone unsure.

 

[Jonny_Darko]

Slander is spoken. Libel is printed.

That simple

Yeah haven't you seen Spiderman?

 

['Shy]

Well, here's what Blogger said.. hmmmm...

Hello,

Thank you for your note. Blogger is a provider of content creation tools, not a mediator of that content. We allow our users to create blogs, but we don't make any claims about the content of these pages. In cases where a contact email address is listed on the page, we recommend working directly with the author to have this information removed or changed.

-Blogger Support


I had an answer from WHOIS and they sent me all the contact information - lol even his home address - /ponder - so I have emailed directly to the Registration Service Provider and shall wait and see what they have to say!

 

[Xavier]

libel - slander

 

[Whipped]

*Whipped hides from the Troll*

*Shivers*

 

[Rubric]

*Whipped hides from the Troll*

*Shivers*

Just an observation

 

['Shy]

Right, well, I'm dragging up an old thread, because I'm in the mood to.

Blogger said bugger off, Geoshities said bugger off. What next? Just to give you a bit of an idea, here's the latest thing he said about me, on B3TA...


I came back from work on the day after my birthday, opened the front door and...

All her stuff was gone. And all my DVD's. And a post it note on my computer.

And that's how I learnt I was getting divorced.

After she moved out though, she refused to return the keys to the flat. So whilst I was at work she kept coming back, taking things she felt like keeping, switched on my computer, copied files she wanted, hacked my email account, read all my emails for a few months (good thing I knew she was doing this, so got a few offline friends to participate in a Mega Bullshit stream), tried and failed to hack into my other email accounts, tried to screw over and empty the joint bank account, then served me with divorce papers proclaiming I was a pornography addicted wifebeater into a swinging lifestyle.

The day before she left we'd had a row because she thought that a birthday card from my Dad was from one of the thousands of women I was suppsoed to be having an affair with. Needless to say, I'd had enough of that bullshit.

Before she left mind you, she used to ring up all my female friends whenever I was working late to make sure I wasn't up to my nuts in guts with them, reckoned I was sleeping with at least 3 women regularly, thought that when I went to work I was actually having orgies with Everyone In South London, and was generally a weirdo living in cloudcuckooland. Oh, and on top of this, she didn't have a job for a year before she left so cost me thousands of pounds as I paid the bills because someone had to.

She would also regularly disappear for hours at a time, with a male friend, before moving in with him. Hmm. Affair, anyone?

Oh, and she was a drunk driver and once fell asleep hungover whilst driving on the motorway. She was also a former Coke Addict who'd been on the gak for a few years previous but apparently now cleaned up.

Secretly I was hoping she would leave, but my God, what a way to be dumped. It was like a bad BBC2 sitcom. Still no doubt she has been putting out for England ever since, unlucky bastards that they are, but tonight "thank god its them instead of you".

So there you go, in one day I lost a wife, a computer, a lot of CD's, some of my clothes, all my DVD's, and the hope of ever seeing several thousand pounds ever again. I really wish I had been a pornography addicted, wifebeating philanderer, but I still wouldn't've got my money's worth out of that dumb waste of pubic hair

 

[Uncle Sick]

Stop quoting from my blog!!1

That's libel! Errr... slander!!

 

[yaruar]

dear god, what a twat....

i've seen it happen all too often though. the net gives people a chance to live out their issues in public like never before.

 

[Gumbo]

Presumably if the bits about the drunk driving and coke addiction are lies, then you will be able to threaten to sue the hosts as previously discussed.

Unless of course they are true.

 

['Shy]

Presumably if the bits about the drunk driving and coke addiction are lies, then you will be able to threaten to sue the hosts as previously discussed.

Unless of course they are true.

Which I've done and they say they are not responsible for anything written.

 

[Clown]

Out of interest, does this bloke have a fan-base? I mean, like, will anyone care about what he say's (other than you, because he's bad-mouthing you)?

 

[Yoni]

Sorry to be controversial here but in my experience there is no smoke without fire. However I could be wrong....

If I were you Shy' I would just not visit that site anymore or follow anything he does. If he thinks you are reading them he could just be spicing things up for his audience.

He could also visit here and see that you are wound up about it and again spice things up just because he knows it gets to you.

If you are happy with your world now there is really no need for you to get upset afterall at the end of the day what is this man to you, an ex, a toerag, a twat etc so therefore his opinions should not matter a jot.


Just my pennys worth.....

 

[Athan]

If you are happy with your world now there is really no need for you to get upset afterall at the end of the day what is this man to you, an ex, a toerag, a twat etc so therefore his opinions should not matter a jot.

Damn it Yoni, stop being so intelligent and reasonable. I may have to try and steal you away from JBP .

More seriously, this does sound like good advice. Shy, you don't care about the toerag any more, and anyone who is worth caring about should realise the guy is being a toerag and ignore his deluded rantings. Let him just die away into obscurity as he deserves.

-Ath

 

[GekuL]

If you make too much fuss people will start believing there is some truth in his words.