Interesting o_O well kind of...

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Xeanor

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heh

sorc ae mezz lasts 7 seconds longer on someone with det4 compared to someone with det5

t.t
 
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Roo Stercogburn

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Will be interesting after next patch with the so-called resist changes. Though I can't be certain the calculator in the link is correct, it feels about right. I don't even get 10 secs worth of mez on a lot of peeps when I'm playing SM. You can say well secondary mezzer, but secondary isn't supposed to mean completely inefective.

The SM TL has raised the issue continuously, but not holding breath.

Bah I hate thinking about the next patch :(
 
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old.Morchaoron

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heh, my 9 second single target every 15 seconds short range stun lasts less then 1 second on the det whores :eek:


that name btw... sadface.net :rolleyes:
 
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old.Morchaoron

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oops yes dds are 15 secs ;)

well that doesnt make it that much better does it ;)
 
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wildsorcerer

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im dert 4 at mo but lookin at that im re-specin yet again to get dert 5 now :p thx matt
 
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old.mattshanes

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Originally posted by wildsorcerer
im dert 4 at mo but lookin at that im re-specin yet again to get dert 5 now :p thx matt
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I knew i was right, that det 5 is a big difference over 4:p
 
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wildsorcerer

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yeah i especially like the ae stun lastin 1 secound :p makes all cc a total joke tbh
 
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old.Belorfyn

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Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
Will be interesting after next patch with the so-called resist changes. Though I can't be certain the calculator in the link is correct, it feels about right. I don't even get 10 secs worth of mez on a lot of peeps when I'm playing SM. You can say well secondary mezzer, but secondary isn't supposed to mean completely inefective.

The SM TL has raised the issue continuously, but not holding breath.

Bah I hate thinking about the next patch :(
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I think the calculator works as it'll work for us after next patch.
But aren't the resists being made less effective in next patch ? First item resists and buffs are summed and calculated and then Buff+AoM+other RA's are summed and calculated so the total amount resisted (damage, mez duration, whatever) will be lower than before.

For example, if someone has 26 items, 24 from buffs, 6% from AoM2, no det. I'm casting level 50 sm AE mez which is 33s, I know you have the 28s one, i had this :)
Now: 33 x (1 - (0,26 + 0,24 + 0,06)) = 14,52s
After patch: 33 x (1 - (0,26 + 0,24)) x (1 - 0,06)) = 15,51s

Not that much better, it will still be joke against target with det but still the patch doesn't make it worse atleast :)
 
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Straef

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hrmpf just couple hundredthousands to det5 i guess >_<
 
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bigchief

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Resist listed in Bonus Screen: 50% / 0%
Group A - 50%
26% from Spellcrafting
24% from Resist Buffs
0% from Racial Bonus
Group B - 0%
0% from Avoidance of Magic
0% from Empty Mind
0% from Brilliant Aura of Deflection

Damage Percent Reduction: 50%

An additional resist reduction from Determination 5 (75%)
results in the following Spell Duration Reductions:

Sorcerer Cast AE Mez 44 Mind Spec
79 seconds reduced to 9.875 seconds.

Crowd Control Percent Reduction: 87.5%

Thats just gay.
 
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old.mattshanes

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Originally posted by cHodAX
Tis indeed, poor wind theurgy mezz is a waste of power at 27secs.
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You may aswell fart chod and hope that cc's them better:clap:
 
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cHodAX

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
You may aswell fart chod and hope that cc's them better:clap:
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My farts are usually deadly, sadly I can't buy vindaloo in game or I would CC 'em all to death :p
 
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wildsorcerer

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Originally posted by cHodAX
My farts are usually deadly
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Nerf Wind theurgs !!!

pull my finger he says, ill AE em all
 
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Twaize

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Originally posted by bigchief
Resist listed in Bonus Screen: 50% / 0%
Group A - 50%
26% from Spellcrafting
24% from Resist Buffs
0% from Racial Bonus
Group B - 0%
0% from Avoidance of Magic
0% from Empty Mind
0% from Brilliant Aura of Deflection

Damage Percent Reduction: 50%

An additional resist reduction from Determination 5 (75%)
results in the following Spell Duration Reductions:

Sorcerer Cast AE Mez 44 Mind Spec
79 seconds reduced to 9.875 seconds.

Crowd Control Percent Reduction: 87.5%

Thats just gay.
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Resist listed in Bonus Screen: 55% / 65%
Group A - 55%
26% from Spellcrafting
24% from Resist Buffs
5% from Racial Bonus
Group B - 65%
15% from Avoidance of Magic
15% from Empty Mind
35% from Brilliant Aura of Deflection

Damage Percent Reduction: 84.25%

An additional resist reduction from Determination 5 (75%)
results in the following Spell Duration Reductions:

Cabalist AE Snare 48 Spirit
114 seconds reduced to 4.489 seconds.
Shaman Root 46 Base Cave
84 seconds reduced to 3.307 seconds.
Sorcerer Cast AE Mez 44 Mind Spec
79 seconds reduced to 3.111 seconds.
Healer Cast AE Mez 44 Pacification
65 seconds reduced to 2.559 seconds.
Instant AE Mez
31 seconds reduced to 1.221 seconds.
Healer Cast AE Stun 50 Pacification
11 seconds reduced to 0.433 seconds.

Crowd Control Percent Reduction: 96.0625%
 
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lakih

Guest
Nerf determination... or *cough* give it to champs! :p
 
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old.ivan

Guest
Originally posted by Twaize
Shaman Root 46 Base Cave
84 seconds reduced to 3.307 seconds.
Sorcerer Cast AE Mez 44 Mind Spec
79 seconds reduced to 3.111 seconds.
Healer Cast AE Mez 44 Pacification
65 seconds reduced to 2.559 seconds.
Instant AE Mez
31 seconds reduced to 1.221 seconds.
Healer Cast AE Stun 50 Pacification
11 seconds reduced to 0.433 seconds.

Crowd Control Percent Reduction: 96.0625%
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Healer x casts ae stun
Healer x casts ae mezz
[Group Champ] damn mezzed :(
[Group Bard] hold on ill take it off
[Group BMx1 with det5] mezzed ?? whats that ??
[Group BMx2 with det5] dunno but i lagged and couldnt move for whole 3 seconds, anyone else getting this ?
[Group Bard] errr that actually was it... the mezz effect .. you couldnt move because of it
[Group BMx1 with det5] ooo so enemies actually have the ability to stop you for 3 seconds ... uber imo
[Group BMx2 with det5] <nods> needs a nerf
 
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Danya

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matt stop whining or I'll come back and kick your arse! :D
 
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old.mattshanes

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Originally posted by Danya
matt stop whining or I'll come back and kick your arse! :D
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You never did and never will xD

I aint playing for much longer:(
 
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cHodAX

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
You never did and never will xD

I aint playing for much longer:(
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Join me in Horizons after January me 'ol chubby mucker :D
 
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Twaize

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Join Horizonz one month after release cos the first players will face empty plains in which to build city's the starting city is no more then a tent at launch... Let other ppl build it up :D
 
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