interesting info :)

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Glottis_Xanadu

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Without having to read it all, it states that pre 1.65 speccing high slash/thrust/crush and high 2-handed/polearm did help reduce variance, and going beyond 50 spec did still give some return.
After 1.65 goes live, the slash/thrust/crush spec does not matter, but only the 2-handed/polearm spec, and going passed 50 gives no benefit at all with weapons (I assume shield still matters, as this works of a % base chance to block, never really reaching 100%).
This would mean you could go hybrid a lot easier, as you can just leave slash/thrust/crush at 1, and put in 50shield, 50 2-handed/polearm, and 28 parry. It would also mean 2-handed/polearm users should carry different weapons, to adjust to the class they will be fighting :)
Or not?
But it does not state if this is a bug or not.
Regards, Glottis
 
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stighelmer

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The test actually shows that the changes been around before 1.65, but there is also an indication that they've changed it even more in 1.65.

Also, they are saying that you benefit from getting base spec (including equip and RR bonus) to 50. So leaving base damage at 1 is not really a good option.
 
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Flimgoblin

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1.64 and 1.65:

50+15/50+15 spec gives little to no benefit over 50+15/35+15 spec

What's it like in 1.62? anyone here able to do the test he proposed?

(a slightly less respec-stone intensive one involves going 50+4/50+4 versus 50+15/50+15 :) or whatever your spec is at the moment with and without some items so you are at exactly 50 base spec in one test and over it in the other - obviously the bigger the difference the better)
 
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Bleri McThrust

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It shows change creeped in before 1.65.

What it also means is that basically I have 609 points wasted in Thrust which might be better of put iinto another line.
 
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Bleri McThrust

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Originally posted by Flimgoblin
1.64 and 1.65:

50+15/50+15 spec gives little to no benefit over 50+15/35+15 spec

What's it like in 1.62? anyone here able to do the test he proposed?

Give access to test server :p
 
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stighelmer

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GIVE ME A RESPEC STONE AND I WILL TRY IT OUT!!!11

:)
 
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Flimgoblin

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Originally posted by Bleri McThrust
Give access to test server :p

you're 50/44 yeah? :)

try it with 50+XX/44+6

and then

50+xx/44+xx :)

not quite as good a test but will give some indication :)
 
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Bleri McThrust

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Well Ive been dithering about changing my 44 thrust for a long time, but every time I decide another test comes along :(

It would be possible for me to do

50+14/44+6(50)

and

50+14/44+14(58)
 
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Bleri McThrust

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Hmm no I cant :(

Looked at it again ... specs would be achieved by swapping out some of my current armour back to my old epic and that would change my other stats, str etc , thus not giving true reading :(

I got np making a 99% pole to test things out but to do this and use same pieces of armour for both tests would need +8 thrust on pole which means an MP :(
 
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-ag-bometal

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If they ever remove double speccing and ppl start rolling hundreds 2H paladins, i am gonna be a sad panda :/
 

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