Information age!

[old.Tohtori]

Would apreacite it if you'd give some links about the conflict. I only know what they tell in the news so according to you my view is distorted. Makes the discussion better if theres some facts to work with :touch:

Prompted this discussion..in my brain. So thought we'd take it out into the "pube-lic" as i like to call FHOT members Yes patent pending!


We are given plenty of information, on many sources, internet, radio, etc, but how reliable can it really be?

News, i don't REALLY trust them much, propaganda'ish since December 24 1906*, but the internet isn't that reliable either if you think of it. Especailly something like wikipedia, which is the "bible" of knowledge in many parts of the internet.

What can be actually taken as fact? Books? Don't think 100% on that either, as they were written by others.

Are we trapped in only believing 100% on ourselves, and doubt everything anyone else says?

Just something to start the discussion, i think you get my jizz...err...jist.


*First radio broadcast silly. Now you know.

 

[Chronictank]

ALL sources are biased, just of varying degrees
Thats why you get sources from both sides of the fence and then try and make a judgement somewhere in the middle

Unfortunately as humans we are slaves to our emotions, so conciously otherwise our opinion is already pre-determined by the enviroment we live in

 

[kivik]

Chronic killed the thread

 

[kirennia]

I only beleive what I see, hence my non-participation in discussions which I have no real clue about...such as this whole israel/palestine discussion. Granted I could comment according to my knowledge but then again, that's just regurgitating a complilation of things other people have already said. That said, human stupidity/manipulation are the only sorts of things I will believe when making my own decisions about things.

The papers are also things which need to be taken with a pinch of salt as they have their own agenda, just as the government/societies of their time have the whole reasoning for writing their 'holy' books as they have...but that's another topic.

 

[Chronictank]

never fear, this can be recovered!
Proof that puppies>cats

 

[soze]

The thing with the Prince going to war shows there could be cover ups and maybe a blackout on certian information. But in the end someone still broke the news so the truth will always come out i think,

But the UK Press reports on what will but arses on seats and get people reading the paper. The truth is reported in the most senational way rather than the most accurate way.

 

[Helme]

The truth is out there

 

[Azurus]

Seel this is an excellent documentary on the media, i know it's long but it's well worth the watch if you're interesting in the subject.

YouTube - Manufacturing Consent 1 of 17
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[old.Tohtori]

Seel this is an excellent documentary on the media, i know it's long but it's well worth the watch if you're interesting in the subject.

Nah, i just like to spam pointless discussions on the forum

Will watch as soon as possible, thanks.

Although, as such, a media about media *grin* Ironic?

 

[Binky the Bomb]

Its the problem with the information age, as any and all data is open to 'personal interpritation'. Plus we pride ourselves on our own opinions and views, so we tend to skew what we see/hear/read to our own standards of 'how the world works'. I'll admit, everything I see/hear/read is taken with a pinch of salt, and tend to try and verify as best I can what I beleive to be true.

However, sometimes a banana is just a banana, and no real research is required. But how do you know unless you go looking? If you don't and you find out it was wrong, you feel 'gullible' but if you go hunting and waste a lot of energy over a piddly etail, you fel like a fool.

I suppose its all down to 'How accurate do you want the information your given?' Being right about something isn't always a good thing either. Would you like to be right about the terrible conditions in Africa? Would you want to be right about people hacking limbs off because they were in the wrong 'tribe'. Would you like to be right about scumbags wandering around your local area, armed with knives and mugging old ladies?

Wouldn't you like the world to be less fucked up than it is? Sometimes, Ignorance real is bliss, because now that you now all that, and know that its not going to change because no-ones got the guts to change it. Depressing isn't it?

 

[Zede]

books

 

[fettoken]

The truth is out there

Word! And, trust no one...

 

[Lethul]

read a course in source perusal(?) and you will soon realize what to trust and not to trust (to an extent ofc)

wiki is not one of them

 

[kirennia]

read a course in source perusal(?) and you will soon realize what to trust and not to trust (to an extent ofc)

wiki is not one of them

hah, referencing wiki in uni will get you far too Doesn't matter if you've referenced 100 different books and journals, reference wiki once and all of your credibility gets shot to zero Made that error in the first year not really thinking about it late one night...wont be making it again

 

[Gorbachioo]

The best way to get the right information is to hear people debate something which they disagree on. The problem with this though is that politicians have become too good at avoiding the tough questions.

 

[kivik]

Proof that puppies>cats

No way!

 

[Chronictank]

How convinient you didnt show them the full version


Yeah i know, rushed job with the pencil tool instead of working out which brush he used

 

[kivik]

lol

 

[Huntingtons]

but you did trust news when they were printed on paper before 1906?

 

[Iceforge]

I find it so odd, yet I know it to be true, that refering wiki as a source is viewed as low credibility, while all studies of credibility has put Wikipedia above all book form encyclopedias (sp?), often surpassing them by quite a bit.
That included the credibility of the publishings by Oxford and Harvard

 

[old.Tohtori]

but you did trust news when they were printed on paper before 1906?

No i didn't, just meant news as in mass news broadcasts.

 

[Vasconcelos]

After all, everything has a component of failing when you only have 1 source, be it wikipedia or an eminence book.

I learnt to contrast between various sources, and wikipedia can be one of them, just not THE source as most articles are often hijacked (just check the discuss this article link).

 

[Binky the Bomb]

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