Infil vs SB

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Soo, 500 + 170 = 200+100 ?

Thread was about infils doing insanely much damage, fyi.

Only time i manage 500 is with a PA. But if we want to make up figures and pretend thats what classes hit for all the time how bout I say SBs always hit for 400 and 200? Because if no proof of the above is needed then my made up figures must also be gospel.

I land mh 220-250 without relics, and oh around 80 - thats on a SB/NS with heat mh. I find the SBs that have gone with the wyrd spec are hitting harder than those who are still 5 spec (rare) os SZ (misguided).

 

[Veg]

2.5x specc points isnt that enough?, do you really think youre skilled if you kill a SB in 1on1 as Inf? if you meet a SB who is just as good as you, you will allways allways have an advantage, no matter what

Erm? I asked simply for some evidence. Are you sure you meant to reply to me?

 

[Radix]

Infils often did 300+ when they had no relics so 350+ doesnt seem unrealistic with 3 of them.

Some times you can blame battler charge, but even without those 300+ wasnt uncommon before. Havnt been out much last week so cant say what they average with relics.

And lol yeah Perf? my last perf on infil was 250 ^^ (yes capped template, 44CS at the time and buffed).

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Oh i see....

This is a group WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! thread? one where you can all whine that an ewul infil hit you so hard you wet yourself, but have no proof and wish to ignore all tests that show balance.

Oh well - have a good QQ then.

 

[tookha]

Only time i manage 500 is with a PA. But if we want to make up figures and pretend thats what classes hit for all the time how bout I say SBs always hit for 400 and 200? Because if no proof of the above is needed then my made up figures must also be gospel.

Right, as I've been hit for 500+ myself and Indriid apparently has aswell, I really don't feel the need to prove anything to you.
If you don't hit for these figures, you're badly specced and play like shit

 

[Arus Canus]

Prove any of this - oh and read wyrrds info as he disproves just about everything you've just said. But hey - what would he know, i mean mythic only asked him to be Tl because of his understanding of LA and general mid issues....

Quit whining and learn to play - why is it some of your better SB players can slap me for 200mh and 100oh with slashers and you prefer to whine me to death....

provide a link to all this bs your letting out so we can see for our selves???? or just keep ranting like you do and we still wont believe a word you say.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Vn boards - mid rogues. or search on wyrd. Or at safehouse. Some discussion think was on daoc catacombs. Jox posted 1 link on FH mid board.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Right, as I've been hit for 500+ myself and Indriid apparently has aswell, I really don't feel the need to prove anything to you.
If you don't hit for these figures, you're badly specced and play like shit

Alternatively now I've been hit for 400/200 you must indeed be specc'd wrong and play for sh*t.

Ain't discussions great when you don' t have to abck anything up?

 

[Arus Canus]

why mid roques when we where discussing infils? hehe

 

[tookha]

Alternatively now I've been hit for 400/200 you must indeed be specc'd wrong and play for sh*t.

Ain't discussions great when you don' t have to abck anything up?

lol k

 

[Chronictank]

how bout we finally put this to rest
sum1 post the average infil spec for a lvl20 here and the average spec for a lvl 20 sb ill duel them an post the results here and finally put this whine to rest.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Nah - they've been whining for 8 patches now. they like whining. its what they do - even now TLs are saying theres no issue they'll still be whining. And in 10 more patches time they'll still be whining.

 

[Jergiot]

and still, inf get better Offhand mercanics, better weapons, more speccs and someone believes they are equal, yes he is 12

better offhand mecanics? for assasins, maybe. for lighttanks, no fucking way.

 

[Arus Canus]

infil TL should be shot.

says infil is underperforming @ 1.70 report on vn?

guess we need to boost infils a bit so they dont get killed all the time.

 

[Jergiot]

infil TL should be shot.

says infil is underperforming @ 1.70 report on vn?

guess we need to boost infils a bit so they dont get killed all the time.

actually he was saying all assasins were underpreforming due to NF. but hey, some ppl cant read.

 

[Killrake]

A NooB question, Why do infils get more speccpoint then others?

 

[Jergiot]

A NooB question, Why do infils get more speccpoint then others?

another noob question, why can mids have 4 seers in grp and still have the best dmg output then the other realms optimal setups?

 

[vintervargen]

pft, meleeranger pwnz 4ll

 

[[GoL]Nervion]

i flank a savage for 250 he anytimes me back for 582

so? :|

 

[Killrake]

another noob question, why can mids have 4 seers in grp and still have the best dmg output then the other realms optimal setups?

Thx for the very good answer it enlighted me very much.

 

[tookha]

i flank a savage for 250 he anytimes me back for 582

so? :|

You're probably shit specced then.

Edit: Oh, and I'm afraid I'll have to need proof to believe that

 

[tookha]

A NooB question, Why do infils get more speccpoint then others?

Infils have got 2.5x spec points, Shadowblades get shitloads of more HP and Nightshades has got strong magic.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Infils have got 2.5x spec points, Shadowblades get shitloads of more HP and Nightshades has got strong magic.

well said

 

[Indrid]

Oki ppl.. just did some tests.. rr 8 scout, rr 5 infils slash specced, and cs specced no style or melee damage.. and a rr 9 infil with + to melee and style damage.. will post screenies tomorrow!

 

[rvn]

i flank a savage for 250 he anytimes me back for 582

so? :|

id say that is one gimped merc

 

[Framfall]

Never is any proof - they just like whining.

Read the latest material on how to spec. Spec like an assassin using your assassin unique lines, play like an assassin using your assassin unique lines and stop trying to be a minizerk, stealthtank or anything else.

I get hit as hard as i hit by some SBs - some though hit like wet noodles because they're specc'd wrong.

So stop whining, spec right and play like an assassin.

Then you start playing your Infs like Infiltrators and use your infiltrator unique lines of infiltration and deceit and not like minimercs, stealthtanks or anything else.

So if we specc right then we are assasins and not minizerks? as we then hit harder? what if no matter how we specc we are still outmeleed by infs, str relics or not.

If you are just here to troll, do it good knob.

 

[Arus Canus]

actually he was saying all assasins were underpreforming due to NF. but hey, some ppl cant read.

actualy i can read... just a matter of understanding what you read! and seems like i didnt. but hey .. nobody is perfect.

Tho it seems you cant read either. Did you notice the questionmark i put after @ 1.70 ?
I wonder why i put it there... mm maybe so i could have someone correct me if i was wrong and not some twat trying to be smart with some idiotic comments.

 

[Fana]

Shadowblades get shitloads of more HP

No, SB's have something like 4% more hits than infils which equates to ~55 hits or so (its only base hits remember). Wouldnt exactly call that shitloads since Infs will reduce that advantage on their first hit on an SB.

Anyone that says sb's and infils hit as hard (with opted templates and same rr) must be on drugs tbh.

 

[Arus Canus]

Only infil ppl claims sbs hit as hard... obviously never played a sb vs infil before so they stick to what others tell them . like that Smile dude who keep on mentioning vn but yet fails to give any link about sbs or show where that link can be found .

Said mid section, couldnt find any link. plz find it for me Smile!!!

PS : Should really try both classes.

 

[Ch1ld]

Only time i manage 500 is with a PA. But if we want to make up figures and pretend thats what classes hit for all the time how bout I say SBs always hit for 400 and 200? Because if no proof of the above is needed then my made up figures must also be gospel.

I land mh 220-250 without relics, and oh around 80 - thats on a SB/NS with heat mh. I find the SBs that have gone with the wyrd spec are hitting harder than those who are still 5 spec (rare) os SZ (misguided).

So u can tell your opponents spec by intuition? Or do u recognize their styles?Or maybe u keep names of every sb thats attacking u and ask them their spec and compare dmg

sorry couldnt resist asking

Btw my 44cs non toa infil has like 200+ more pa cap using a 3.5 thruster than my full toa 44 cs sb using a 4.1 battler but that ofc has nothing to do with LA mechanics compared to DW ones