Infil Template Question

[mikke]

What stats is important to cap in a template as a slash infiltraitor?

And what race is the best for a slashfiltraitor? and what to put atributepoints in at creation? give tips please, im a inf noob

 

[Tsabo]

Briton

15 Str
10 Con

In an SC you wanna cap out Str, Con, and hits using Malice in MH. Also you wanna get +11 to slash, stealth and cs and Wyrd spec your char. Quickness should only need to get to about 75 to cap swing speed with buffs.

 

[Elitestoner]

Briton

15 Str
10 Con

In an SC you wanna cap out Str, Con, and hits using Malice in MH. Also you wanna get +11 to slash, stealth and cs and Wyrd spec your char. Quickness should only need to get to about 75 to cap swing speed with buffs.

about 64 quickness caps i believe

 

[mikke]

Neat, so i wont have to overcap Quickness ? i just have to get 64 of it in template, do i need to get any aug Quickness?

And, what is the least important ressistance?

Is dex important?

What wpns should i use? malice+battler, malice+lg, battler+lg, malice+lg+battler(on back)? or wtf? never played a unf before^^

 

[Deepflame]

Neat, so i wont have to overcap Quickness ? i just have to get 64 of it in template, do i need to get any aug Quickness?

And, what is the least important ressistance?

Is dex important?

What wpns should i use? malice+battler, malice+lg, battler+lg, malice+lg+battler(on back)? or wtf? never played a unf before^^

You only need to get to 250 quickness.
Just do some math, 250 - 73 from buffs = 177
Then do 177 - your base qui, and you get the exact amount of qui needed on your suit.

Least important resistances would be Spirit, Matter and Energy to some extent. As a stealther you try and not-get-hit by casters anyway, once they get you in that 2-second-explosion zone you die anyway.

Dex is important if you're thrust specced, and it affects your evade as well. Most slash users don't prioritize on dex.

As for weapons, using a legendary mainhand is a good idea as well. Otherwise, Malice and Battler combo is the current fotm.

 

[SoulFly]

It's still argued that does dex affect evade or not tho. :E

 

[LordjOX]

I made Briton 10str 10dex 10qui. I had planned thrust beforehand so no worries there. For slash I'd go 15str 10qui (makes easier templates )
Quickness "caps" at 250 so that'll be 83 from base (Infils gain quickness when they lvl), 10 from creation and 93 from buffs. So you need 64qui in your template (ideally).
Should keep most resistances close to cap, I'd say matter and energy the least important ones as an alb stealther. Quite a few spirit weapons out there aswell.
afaik Mythic said that dex affects evade, but don't think anyone has done conclusive testing on this and some players like to believe it doesn't. As thrust you won't worry bout it, but slash I dunno
As slash you defo want to get Malice mainhand, what you put in offhand is up to you.

 

[Tiztla]

I am a big fan of lgm main and malice offhand , with hastepot ofc

with my new temp i will run with 10 spd , 10 style and 9 dmg from bonus and then add lgm main and i will do good dmg

well just my 2 cents

 

[Tsabo]

It's still argued that does dex affect evade or not tho. :E

Well those people can argue all they want, Evade is 50/50 Dex/Quick.

 

[mikke]

kk, cheers for all replies much apreciated!

but how is a wyrd spec? and do i need to autotrain to get it?

and a new Question, do i totally gimp myself if i run with FW instead of som?

 

[LordjOX]

and a new Question, do i totally gimp myself if i run with FW instead of som?

yes

 

[Tsabo]

kk, cheers for all replies much apreciated!

but how is a wyrd spec? and do i need to autotrain to get it?

and a new Question, do i totally gimp myself if i run with FW instead of som?

Wyrd spec is when you use pure CS styles and no slash styles but instead of speccing 50+11slash you spec 39+11slash and get exactly the same damage output when using CS styles. so frees up spec points for DW.

and no you won't totally gimp yourself by not using som, aslong as you get a RoD in temp to cover the SL loss.

 

[mikke]

rofl ok - but if i run with Traitors dagger on the back then?

 

[Elitestoner]

You only need to get to 250 quickness.
Just do some math, 250 - 73 from buffs = 177
Then do 177 - your base qui, and you get the exact amount of qui needed on your suit.

spec dex cap is +93, not 73. its easier to just take your base qui without any items, add 93 then see how far away u are from 250. which im pretty sure is 64

 

[Elitestoner]

Well those people can argue all they want, Evade is 50/50 Dex/Quick.

if u believe everything you read then sure..

i have seen the test results and i personally believe that evade = 100% qui.

 

[Tsabo]

if u believe everything you read then sure..

i have seen the test results and i personally believe that evade = 100% qui.

I have 413dex and 261quick and I evade a hell of alot more than my rl m8 who has atleast 250quick and fook all dex.

I fought a rr5 warrior the otherday opening with garrote, Bradlex or something like that. He didn't hit me once, just evaded every swing.

 

[Elitestoner]

I have 413dex and 261quick and I evade a hell of alot more than my rl m8 who has atleast 250quick and fook all dex.

I fought a rr5 warrior the otherday opening with garrote, Bradlex or something like that. He didn't hit me once, just evaded every swing.

thats hardly test results. a 'omg i evade a lot' dosent prove a thing - however what DOES prove something is tests that some sad git did, by taking 1000 hits or something, once with 75 qui and no dex, and again with 75 dex and no qui, and the results proved that dex barely affects evade.

 

[Deepflame]

Barely is not none at all.

 

[Elitestoner]

Barely is not none at all.

thats what i meant typo

 

[Tsabo]

thats hardly test results. a 'omg i evade a lot' dosent prove a thing - however what DOES prove something is tests that some sad git did, by taking 1000 hits or something, once with 75 qui and no dex, and again with 75 dex and no qui, and the results proved that dex barely affects evade.

So someone having tested it about 2 years ago saying that dex does effect evade rate has no credibility?

That coupled with the noticable difference between my evade rate and my rl friends evade rate(he being a slash inf with barely any dex), leads me to believe that evade is 50/50 dex/quick.

 

[Tiztla]

evade is based on dex/quick , it is just that u wont notice any difference in evade under 350 dex that is why slash or sword specced sb dont bother to get the dex up , atleast that is why i dont do it and i could be wrong...