infil spec?

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jilson

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ask raisen in game he is always on and will talk bollox about specs for hours :D
 
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doneagle

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36 envenom ( 50 with +11 +RR4 )
36 stealth ( same )
50 thrust ( dragonfang )
39/36 CS ( 39 if you want SS, else go 36 to get 50 @ RR4 )
rest DW ( should be around 25 )

dual wield = chance to swing with both weapons ( swing! not hit!)
formula : 25% + (your lvl)/4 + (your speclvl)/2 + ( dualist reflex lvl * 3 ) = chance to DW

evade = ((qui + dex)/2 - 50 ) / 10 + (evade lvl) * 5 + ( dodger lvl )* 3
Capped @ 50% in RvR

Dualist reflexes and dodger are passive RA's

Hope this helps you!
 
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old.LandShark

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Why look, a cookie!
/chomp

edit:
50DW
34CS
34Stealth
39Slash
32Envenom

(or not)
 
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Pin

Guest
No 'best spec'. just roll out a cookie and play it like everyone elses alt.... 50T, 39C, 36S, 36E, ~25D is what 95% roll, but it certainly can't be considered 'best'.
 
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old.Sko

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imho infi should have at least 44 cs. otherwise perf is just not worth landing.
 
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old.LandShark

Guest
Ask a 5-spec SB if 21CS gives you a perf worth landing.
 
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doneagle

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i wish i hadn't taken 39 in cs, even the 34 stunning style i don't use alot... PA hit is very nice to have and then try to get a df off. If i would respec i should bring cs from 39 to 35 for more DW

just my 2 c
 
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Pin

Guest
I'm 44CS, always have been, always will be. It's great when you 1-shot skalds in epic :p

Main thing about high CS though is the evade chain. Ham/Leaper/Rib does masses of damage when high CS-specced. In many cases I don't even bother with PA cos te debuff will often take off just as many HP and it's much simpler to just hit em (only really PA if you need to break bubble, or need to land CD).


Respecced recently though. Now have 29+18 DW aswell :p
 
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old.Sko

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Originally posted by old.LandShark
Ask a 5-spec SB if 21CS gives you a perf worth landing.
was 39CS but respecced to 44 after pin's praise to it and never regretted :p
 
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froler-mid

Guest
a good spec is cookie one.

for rr5;

35dw/env/stealth , 50thrust rest in CS.

with +11items +rr = 50 skill in every line, 60+ thrust(more weaponskill is the win).


my rr8;

32dw/env/stealth, 50thrust, rest in CS

(if i dont go slash.....;>)
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid

(if i dont go slash.....;>)

Hehehe. I might have respecced to Slash... But only if I could respec my name :p
 
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froler-mid

Guest
Originally posted by Pin
Hehehe. I might have respecced to Slash... But only if I could respec my name :p


i need respec class, respec start stats, respec realm pts, respec skills for a 'good' infil slasher... ;(
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid
i need respec class, respec start stats, respec realm pts, respec skills for a 'good' infil slasher... ;(

I need those (except respec class... how would a different class be a good infil? ahh, SB might be a better one) for a good infil thruster... stupid evade nerf :(
 
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froler-mid

Guest
Originally posted by Pin
I need those (except respec class... how would a different class be a good infil? ahh, SB might be a better one) for a good infil thruster... stupid evade nerf :(

respec eum.....from saracen too briton ;>

briiiiiiiiiton for slasher AND thruster.

briton >>>>>>>>> saracen infil
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid
respec eum.....from saracen too briton ;>

briiiiiiiiiton for slasher AND thruster.

briton >>>>>>>>> saracen infil

(yeah, you meant race, not class... anyways...)

yup :( (all down to the evade nerf)

Briton +10 Str/Con/Qui (or maybe Dex/Con/Qui for Thrust, but no difference really).

Anyways... At least with 1.61 I might be able to cap out Con and we can all be equal again :m00:
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Pin
(yeah, you meant race, not class... anyways...)

yup :( (all down to the evade nerf)

Briton +10 Str/Con/Qui (or maybe Dex/Con/Qui for Thrust, but no difference really).

Anyways... At least with 1.61 I might be able to cap out Con and we can all be equal again :m00:


as a briton id go 10str , 15con because hp is my friend ;>


:m00:
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid
as a briton id go 10str , 15con because hp is my friend ;>


:m00:

Well, that gives you 18hp more. Boy, that's a lot!
 
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froler-mid

Guest
Originally posted by Pin
Well, that gives you 18hp more. Boy, that's a lot!



it is ;>
aug con RA = 21 hp.... aug con 3 is worth it, but aug con 4 = not worth it, start stats = freee ;>


btw im a hp freak atm
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid
it is ;>
aug con RA = 21 hp.... aug con 3 is worth it, but aug con 4 = not worth it, start stats = freee ;>


btw im a hp freak atm

start stats aren't freeee... you lost 10 QUI for your 18hp ;)

And Toughness 3 would have been 55hp rather than the 21 you got from aug con 3 ;) And actually, Toughness 4 > Aug Con 3 in terms of value for money.


And yeah. neeeeeed HP atm. lose evade, gotta take a hit.
 
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old.Ramas

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I'm surprised an inf would be so keen on QUI.

Isn't too much QUI going to hurt your Crit Strike style damage?
 
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old.shotgunstow

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Originally posted by froler-mid
respec eum.....from saracen too briton ;>

briiiiiiiiiton for slasher AND thruster.

briton >>>>>>>>> saracen infil

How would you spec a briton infil that is slash AND thrust??
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by old.Ramas
I'm surprised an inf would be so keen on QUI.

Isn't too much QUI going to hurt your Crit Strike style damage?

If you can't 1/2-shot everything, why would you want to drop damage over time?

The days of the almighty critblade are long gone. But maybe I'll do a SC template with 0 QUI and lose the dex/qui buffs. See how I get PWNED before I swing a second time.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.shotgunstow
How would you spec a briton infil that is slash AND thrust??

As a gimped laughing stock of the entire server ;)

PA cap isn't affected by Qui, unlike other styles... I perfed a graycon mob, capped, took off my offhand weapon with +19 qui, perfed another graycon, capped again at same damage. Other styles get their cap reduced by a bit.

High Qui pwns for an infil. Especially because it affects evade.
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by belth

PA cap isn't affected by Qui, unlike other styles... I perfed a graycon mob, capped, took off my offhand weapon with +19 qui, perfed another graycon, capped again at same damage. Other styles get their cap reduced by a bit.

And your cap is everything, right?

Yes, your cap will be the same, but your actual damage would be lower. You can see that by perfing something you don't cap on, or by looking at the style bonus damage on a level 0 mob.
 
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belth

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High cap=more potential damage. I cap unbuffed maybe on 0.1% of my attacks, hence higher qui is better.

Was in response to
I'm surprised an inf would be so keen on QUI.

Isn't too much QUI going to hurt your Crit Strike style damage?
 
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raisen-nesiar

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Raisen spec

This is my spec....i think it ownz @rr7

50thrust +10item +7rr = 67
39 crit +10 item +7rr = 56
33stealth +10 item +7rr = 50
33enerv +10 item +7 rr = 50
32dw +10item +7rr = 49

i disagree with Pin on the 44cs thing......because..if you land a dragon fang..you can continue to fire evade styles until the enemy next hits you, this means you can do hamstring 4 times before 9second stun ends and follow with a leaper. with 44cs you could end with rib sep......... but for what its worth after hitting the enemy with 6 evade styles...you dont need a 7th, better that you have inceased chance of DW. Im not saying Pin is wrong though. Rib Sep is a very good style too.
I used to be lv 50 slash....... makes you better vs SB<but SB will still beat you>, and bad vs every1 else slash infils are gimped SB imo, 2months as a lv 50 slash infil was both embarassing and ineffective.
 

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