Inf template help needed

Oboy

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bigchief said:
but the stats on the offhand slower weapon (champ weapon) can be gained elsewhere (ie ml10 weapon) which has a better speed for a high dw infil, hence why use a slow weapon when you can get all the bonuses you want with a better weapon?

Incidentally, if you're going to pm me a template (not you specifically, just in general to everyone) and go 'its better than yours!' .. do actually cap skills, 300+hp, 90+con, toa bonuses etc. Anyone can make a template with better resists than mine if ur willing to ditch other stuff which ive specifically said I'm not happy to lose at all.

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ur template isnt bad, its just that i want a mainhand independent, u will having problem against high pd users and remedy shades with just malice and if u swap it out u will loose pretty much dmg. The only way i see a stabile template with no off hand is using cw off-hand, the 2% extra dmg and style will overweight the fast speed on ml10. But its all about playstyle and how much cash u got. I wanted to do a cheap template and improve it later and cw is free and ml10 is kina hard to get
 

Jergiot

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Vladamir said:
Grats on being pl'd first off.

If you're swinging with a 4.1/4.0 (whatever Malice or Lw's are) mainhand, and a 4.0 offhand, you're gonna swing once in a blue moon, even less with low DW (as most do).

And gl 'easily' replacing a ML10 wep :p

just want to say its a very nice temp bc, just that this post made me react abit :)

just wanna give u some numbers vlad, since u dont play anymore and all :>

4.1/4.0 weap combo with 10 melee speed haste, 250 qui and 20% charge haste (yes we got 20 now with dr)

Actual R-Weapon Swing Speed: 1.83024
Actual L-Weapon Swing Speed: 1.7856000000000003
Dual Wield Swing Speed: 1.8079200000000002

4.1/3.5 weap combo with same bonuses as above

Actual R-Weapon Swing Speed: 1.83024
Actual L-Weapon Swing Speed: 1.5624000000000002
Dual Wield Swing Speed: 1.69632

so saying its once ina blue moon aint really a correct statement, as u can see the diff is ~1.70 compared to ~1.80 when offhand swings, and then u got the hole the slower weap makes more dmg thing etc.

myself i prefer chiefs temp with the faster offhand, also ml10 weap bonuses "stack" with toa bonuses allowing u to go above the 10% harcap. but the swingspeed diff aint really that big.

the numbers are from here btw http://daoc.nisrv.com/modules.php?name=Weapon_Speed_Calc
 

bigchief

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Jergiot said:
myself i prefer chiefs temp with the faster offhand, also ml10 weap bonuses "stack" with toa bonuses allowing u to go above the 10% harcap. but the swingspeed diff aint really that bighttp://daoc.nisrv.com/modules.php?name=Weapon_Speed_Calc

nah they don't :<

I did some initial testing on this once i first got some ml10 weapons and concluded that they did. However at the time I did not know that %style dmg also increases the dmg caps.

Some later testing showed that sadly I had the same caps with ml10 weapons and '12%' melee 10%style as the usual 10% 10% :(
 

Jergiot

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bigchief said:
nah they don't :<

I did some initial testing on this once i first got some ml10 weapons and concluded that they did. However at the time I did not know that %style dmg also increases the dmg caps.

Some later testing showed that sadly I had the same caps with ml10 weapons and '12%' melee 10%style as the usual 10% 10% :(


humz wtf, im almost 100% sure this was on grabbag and that they confirmed it, ahwell guess we cant be sure till we test everything ourselfs since mythic dont know their own game :|
 

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