Inf template help needed

[Wazkyr]

Well i been messing alot around with slash inf template. Hard to cap what i want, without eg overcapping str cap with some of the items. Was wondering waht you sugest i should use. I got no template to post atm, just the items i thought about putting in. Was hoping that somebody got any idears for new items that would fit in

I also got a Ring of Heavens in my vault, could be put in, but that just makes str cap even worse, also got CB, RoD and GoLM.
Could ofc use battle in offhand, and skip the CW. Thou CW proc > battler proc imo, and can still use battler charge while its on the back.


Atm i was gonna use:

Config Report

Stats

Str: 84 Int: 0 Hits: 180
Con: 57 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 15 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 10 Energy: 7 Crush: 18
Cold: 12 Matter: 0 Thrust: 16
Heat: 6 Spirit: 17 Slash: 20

Skills

3 Thrust

6 Stealth

3 Critical Strike

4 Dual Wield

3 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dexterity

96 Hits

31 Strength

19 Constitution

Other Bonuses

5 Fatigue

8 Melee Damage

22 AF

13 Style Damage

10 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor - Melee
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Head
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Legs
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Suede Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 3: 56 Hits
Effect 4: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 1 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: 24 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Right Hand
Name: Malice
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Infiltrator Laevus Blade
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Dual Wield
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Two Handed
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 10 AF
Effect 8: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Spirit
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist - Rogue
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name:
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: Empty
Effect 2: Empty
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Belt
Name: Statuesque Girlde of Might <------ This is the stats, they are not wrong.
Level: 51 Quality: 98
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Spirit
Effect 3: 7 Energy
Effect 4: 13 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Black Pearl Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Critical Strike
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Left Ring
Name: Demon Blood Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Cold
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 8 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 8 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Right Wrist
Name:
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: Empty
Effect 2: Empty
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Left Wrist
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Tempered Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

 

[Wazkyr]

Just came up with this:
I know the lack of +dw, but seems it very common, not sure if i wish to sacrafice ressist for it. The ressist that are low will be made up by the CLs ofc.



Config Report

Stats

Str: 102 Int: 0 Hits: 340
Con: 100 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 7 Crush: 30
Cold: 12 Matter: 17 Thrust: 22
Heat: 26 Spirit: 17 Slash: 26

Skills

3 Thrust

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dexterity

136 Hits

25 Strength

25 Constitution

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage

13 Melee Combat Speed

5 Fatigue

9 Style Damage

42 AF

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor - Melee
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Slash - 99 Rough Watery War Sigil
Gem 4: 7 Body - 99 Imperfect Dusty Shielding
Utility: 67.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Body - 99 Polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Utility: 61.67

Legs
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Suede Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 3: 56 Hits
Effect 4: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 1 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: 24 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Quickness - 99 Faceted Airy Essence
Gem 2: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 3 Stealth - 99 Rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 11 Matter - 99 Faceted Earthen Shielding
Utility: 63.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 19 Quickness - 99 Faceted Airy Essence
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Slash - 99 Imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 4: 2 Stealth - 99 Uncut Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 67.67

Right Hand
Name: Malice
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Thrust
Effect 6: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Spirit
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist - Rogue
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Skull of the Soul Keeper
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Belt
Name: Statuesque Girlde of Might
Level: 51 Quality: 98
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Spirit
Effect 3: 7 Energy
Effect 4: 13 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Black Pearl Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Critical Strike
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Left Ring
Name: Demon Blood Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Cold
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 8 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 8 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Heat
Effect 2: 6 Matter
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Wrist
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Tempered Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

 

[Jarahl]

Belt
Name: Statuesque Girlde of Might
Level: 51 Quality: 98
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Spirit
Effect 3: 7 Energy
Effect 4: 13 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Are you absolutely sure about that one? +13 Str cap seems a tad much, especially with this :

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=14743

 

[Girafmad]

id personaly go for a heater/cold wep main hand and malice offhand then put battler on the back...

 

[Wazkyr]

Are you absolutely sure about that one? +13 Str cap seems a tad much, especially with this :

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=14743

im 100% sure. I also tested it, it works fine with those stats.

id personaly go for a heater/cold wep main hand and malice offhand then put battler on the back...

With the new CL ressist i wont meet a single stealher without +10 all ressist from the CL buffs. So i dont find LW very good anymore. Thou i was thinking on putting poc sword in offhand, for the 20% abs debuff. If there is a offhand version of the slasher that is.

 

[mikke]

do that poc sword debuff stack with battler debuff?

 

[trycorn]

do that poc sword debuff stack with battler debuff?

have tested it and no

 

[duact]

afaik the poc sword debuff is 20% of your abs (20% of 10 on leather =2) I could ofc be wrong

 

[Jarahl]

im 100% sure. I also tested it, it works fine with those stats.

Nerf when did that get changed :S Cus I had it at 1.78 or something back then it was only +7 str cap

Either way to comment on the template, seems decent, lots of good toa bonusses in it, only thing I'd try to improve is cold resist, seeing lots of n00b stealthers forget to switch back from cold to heat when they killed a scout, which will actually work in their advantage when facing you right after You still got the imbue points for it, so gogogo Improve

 

[Oboy]

u need a open handed template as a slash user otherwise every ranger and ns will rip u apart, template is semi good, missing out on +DW on no envenom makes u swap out 2 items for reapplying poison

i suggest u put in CW in off-hand and only count in 15str from mainhand weapon

can post stats from my template later when i get home

ur resist are good (abit to good when u can get other stats) but u dont need high matter, WL will kill u insta anyway

 

[Dalby]

made this template this morning.

the leather needs abit of twisting with the SC, but u might get some idea's.

Mainhand is independant, so u can use whatever u want.


Statistics
STR:79/97 CON:85/88 DEX:51/88
QUI:80/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:212/264
Power:0/25
AF:22/50

Resistances
Body: 21
Cold: 20
Heat: 25
Energy: 5
Matter: 23
Spirit: 21+5
Crush: 20+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 27

Skills
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 3
Slash: 11
Thrust: 5
Dual Wield: 11
Staff: 5

Bonuses
Style Damage: 9
Melee Damage: 4
Melee Combat Speed: 10
Fatigue: 5

Chest (Golden Scarab Vest):
Imbue: 25.0
15 Dexterity
6% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
4 Style Damage
4 Melee Damage
Utility: 46.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
9% Cold
22 Constitution
9% Slash
7% Matter
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Strength
22 Quickness
3 Dual Wield
7% Heat
Utility: 62.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs (Maleficent Darkspire Suede Leggins):
Imbue: 28.0
24 Constitution
3 ALL melee weapon skills
56 Hits
8 Constitution Cap Increase
1 Melee Combat Speed
24 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 45.0
TOA Utility: 27.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
2 Stealth
6 Dual Wield
5% Matter
7% Heat
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
2 Dual Wield
7% Thrust
76 Hits
28 Quickness
Utility: 61.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Malice):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Strength
15 Constitution
40 Hits
5 Strength Cap Increase
5 Constitution Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
5 Style Damage
5 Fatigue
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Spirit
10% Crush
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shade of Mist - Rogue):
Imbue: 20.0
3 Stealth
15 Strength
15 Quickness
5 Melee Combat Speed
10 AF
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone):
Imbue: 37.0
5% Body
5% Cold
5% Heat
5% Energy
5% Matter
5% Spirit
4% Crush
4% Slash
4% Thrust
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Plaited Hair of Malamis):
Imbue: 21.0
21 Strength
21 Dexterity
2 Melee Combat Speed
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
7 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 28.0
TOA Utility: 36.0

Left Ring (Black Pearl Ring):
Imbue: 35.0
3 Critical Strike
3 Stealth
6 Slash
2 Melee Combat Speed
12 AF
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 22.0

Right Ring (Ring of the Heavens):
Imbue: 26.0
24 Constitution
40 Hits
6% Spirit
10 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Left Wrist (Ebon Hide Bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
6% Cold
6% Slash
6% Matter
6% Body
6% Heat
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Blackened Bracer):
Imbue: 22.5
2 ALL melee weapon skills
3 Stealth
15 Dexterity
15 Quickness
7 Dexterity Cap Increase
7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 45.0
TOA Utility: 28.0

 

[Wazkyr]

Nerf when did that get changed :S Cus I had it at 1.78 or something back then it was only +7 str cap

Either way to comment on the template, seems decent, lots of good toa bonusses in it, only thing I'd try to improve is cold resist, seeing lots of n00b stealthers forget to switch back from cold to heat when they killed a scout, which will actually work in their advantage when facing you right after You still got the imbue points for it, so gogogo Improve

First, my belt is wird, all other belts still got the old stats, so just lucky me

Concerning the ressist i can swap the 11 matter ressist gem for a 11 Cold ressist one. I tried to get the sc better, but i just end at 3x 37.5 and 1x 36 imbue points.

u need a open handed template as a slash user otherwise every ranger and ns will rip u apart, template is semi good, missing out on +DW on no envenom makes u swap out 2 items for reapplying poison

i suggest u put in CW in off-hand and only count in 15str from mainhand weapon

can post stats from my template later when i get home

ur resist are good (abit to good when u can get other stats) but u dont need high matter, WL will kill u insta anyway

Cant see why i need a open mainhand. With the new ressist LW got gimped, as i said you will rarely find stealther without +30 ressist, where melee ressist normaly is below the 30. Ofc theres is PD rangers and alike, but its still worth it imo.

The DW i ofc lack, i cant deny that, dont know if its worth skipping something else and getting some DW, thou i think it means more having 11 on the other skills.
For envenom imo its dosnt matter that its in 2 diffrent items. Can just have some psn weapons before a battle if i wanna change in combat without changing the 2 armor pieces.


And to everybody, thanks for all the feedback :worthy:

 

[Wazkyr]

made this template this morning.

the leather needs abit of twisting with the SC, but u might get some idea's.

Mainhand is independant, so u can use whatever u want.


Statistics
STR:79/97 CON:85/88 DEX:51/88
QUI:80/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:212/264
Power:0/25
AF:22/50

Resistances
Body: 21
Cold: 20
Heat: 25
Energy: 5
Matter: 23
Spirit: 21+5
Crush: 20+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 27

Skills
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 3
Slash: 11
Thrust: 5
Dual Wield: 11
Staff: 5

Bonuses
Style Damage: 9
Melee Damage: 4
Melee Combat Speed: 10
Fatigue: 5

Chest (Golden Scarab Vest):
Imbue: 25.0
15 Dexterity
6% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
4 Style Damage
4 Melee Damage
Utility: 46.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
9% Cold
22 Constitution
9% Slash
7% Matter
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Strength
22 Quickness
3 Dual Wield
7% Heat
Utility: 62.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs (Maleficent Darkspire Suede Leggins):
Imbue: 28.0
24 Constitution
3 ALL melee weapon skills
56 Hits
8 Constitution Cap Increase
1 Melee Combat Speed
24 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 45.0
TOA Utility: 27.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
2 Stealth
6 Dual Wield
5% Matter
7% Heat
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
2 Dual Wield
7% Thrust
76 Hits
28 Quickness
Utility: 61.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Malice):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Strength
15 Constitution
40 Hits
5 Strength Cap Increase
5 Constitution Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
5 Style Damage
5 Fatigue
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Spirit
10% Crush
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shade of Mist - Rogue):
Imbue: 20.0
3 Stealth
15 Strength
15 Quickness
5 Melee Combat Speed
10 AF
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone):
Imbue: 37.0
5% Body
5% Cold
5% Heat
5% Energy
5% Matter
5% Spirit
4% Crush
4% Slash
4% Thrust
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Plaited Hair of Malamis):
Imbue: 21.0
21 Strength
21 Dexterity
2 Melee Combat Speed
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
7 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 28.0
TOA Utility: 36.0

Left Ring (Black Pearl Ring):
Imbue: 35.0
3 Critical Strike
3 Stealth
6 Slash
2 Melee Combat Speed
12 AF
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 22.0

Right Ring (Ring of the Heavens):
Imbue: 26.0
24 Constitution
40 Hits
6% Spirit
10 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Left Wrist (Ebon Hide Bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
6% Cold
6% Slash
6% Matter
6% Body
6% Heat
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Blackened Bracer):
Imbue: 22.5
2 ALL melee weapon skills
3 Stealth
15 Dexterity
15 Quickness
7 Dexterity Cap Increase
7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 45.0
TOA Utility: 28.0

Well it looks ok. I was thinking about using Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone with the boost in 1.81, thou its gonna be some time before we get the patch.

I guess your one of the guys starting to use slash styles instead of CS styles? Else i really cant see the point in not capping CS. Also alot of dex and dex cap going to waste, on a slash infi.

I was thinking about using GSV for the passive ressist. As with my belt i have np capping that much, but to me it just seems even thou i dont need the caps on gov, the proc just means to much to skip it.

 

[Oboy]

here mine template i will use to rr5, its cheap but hasnt the best resists, can always use a LW to up the resists im fighting aganist abit and togheter with DR resists will be quit fine
btw template is mainhand independant
can post items later when i can confirm all stats
got rod in it to for extra stealth lore

Stats

Str: 87 Int: 0 Hits: 340
Con: 88 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 27 Cha: 0
Qui: 74 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 24 Energy: 8 Crush: 26
Cold: 0 Matter: 6 Thrust: 26
Heat: 24 Spirit: 4 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

8 Dual Wield

11 Slash

3 Envenom

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

144 Hits

25 Str

14 Con

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage Bonus

40 AF Bonus

9 Melee Speed Bonus

8 Style Damage Bonus

 

[Wazkyr]

was thinking on changing ressist abit. Eg if i remove the 13 matter/cold and 2 heat ressist i could get 6 DW skill instead... quite alot. Also i just found out the stats i found on the DS leggins where wrong, they dont give the hits cap. Trying to remake the template abit again

 

[bigchief]

my current one tho err not so easy to get



Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 312
Con: 101 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 58 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 24 Energy: 0 Crush: 29
Cold: 6 Matter: 20 Thrust: 25
Heat: 27 Spirit: 10 Slash: 25

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

11 Dual Wield

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

5 Qui

128 Hits

25 Str

24 Con

Other Bonuses

9 Melee Damage Bonus

5 Fatigue

40 AF Bonus

11 Style Damage Bonus

10 Melee Speed Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Dual Wield - 99 rough Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 2 Slash - 99 uncut Watery War Sigil
Utility: 68.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Dual Wield - 99 flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Utility: 72.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Dual Wield - 99 flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 3: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 4 Slash - 99 flawed Watery War Sigil
Utility: 74.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars (Artifact)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 4: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Utility: 62.33

Right Hand
Name: Malice's Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Astral Short Sword
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Slash
Effect 6: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00


Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist(SL)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Skull of the Soul Keeper
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Belt
Name: Fadrin's Belt of Havoc
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 48 Hits
Effect 2: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 22.00

Right Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of Defiance
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances(SL)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahurs Bracer DA Charges
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

 

[Wazkyr]

Think i saw you post it on VN BCW. It looks ok, biggest problem for me really is getting stuff i cant get without a zerg (ml10 items). I got np paying large amounts for them, as i got quite alot of money atm, and just as well can make a propor template.

 

[Oboy]

Think i saw you post it on VN BCW. It looks ok, biggest problem for me really is getting stuff i cant get without a zerg (ml10 items). I got np paying large amounts for them, as i got quite alot of money atm, and just as well can make a propor template.

tbh its not good considering its not mainhandindependant and costs a fortune, u can get a similiar template with lower cost and better utility, u just have to tweak some

 

[Wazkyr]

tbh its not good considering its not mainhandindependant and costs a fortune, u can get a similiar template with lower cost and better utility, u just have to tweak some

Well first of all i said i dont want a weaponless template. Its costy, yes it is, but so is mine. Templates cost alot but if you can make a better, at alot lower cost, feal free to try, would love to see it.
I was personaly thinking about using the ml10 blade for the proc, as it sonds rather nice, just dosnt fit in with my very op 13 str cap belt And then i only seen the main hand slasher, nothing else on cms for slashers.

 

[Oboy]

Well first of all i said i dont want a weaponless template. Its costy, yes it is, but so is mine. Templates cost alot but if you can make a better, at alot lower cost, feal free to try, would love to see it.
I was personaly thinking about using the ml10 blade for the proc, as it sonds rather nice, just dosnt fit in with my very op 13 str cap belt And then i only seen the main hand slasher, nothing else on cms for slashers.

posted stats on mine above, most expensive thing in that is zahurs bracer, its better imo as it is mainhand independant, caped qui (250 softcap with buffs) and only 1 swap for envenom, the downsize is low magic resists wish can be remedy by using DR resists and/or using a LW with resists and not fully caped DW (8). It got good hits/con also and when using malice got 380 hits and 19concap, can swap weapon after first hit to get full benefit from it. It also has +40 af +50 with a LW.

 

[Vladamir]

Concerning the Slash offhand Champ wep, it's a no-go for anyone with half a brain. 4.0 spd offhand = no fun

 

[Oboy]

Concerning the Slash offhand Champ wep, it's a no-go for anyone with half a brain. 4.0 spd offhand = no fun

thaught it was 3.5 anyway wont do much differance and anyone with a brain will have a hastecharge up all the time, stats are similiar to ml10 offhand to so can easily be replaced with that

 

[Wazkyr]

Well i messed abit more around with template, this was what i came up with. I like it really much, also got room for RoD, for the SL



Config Report

Stats

Str: 114 Int: 0 Hits: 324
Con: 100 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 42 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 7 Crush: 27
Cold: 6 Matter: 14 Thrust: 24
Heat: 23 Spirit: 17 Slash: 26

Skills

3 Thrust

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

10 Dual Wield

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dexterity

112 Hits

25 Strength

25 Constitution

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage

11 Melee Combat Speed

5 Fatigue

9 Style Damage

40 AF

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor - Melee
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Dual Wield - 99 Flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 7 Body - 99 Imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 67.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Quickness - 99 Polished Airy Essence
Gem 2: 9 Slash - 99 Polished Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 66.67

Legs
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Suede Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 3: 56 Hits
Effect 4: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 1 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 2 Dual Wield - 99 Uncut Icy War Sigil
Gem 4: 4 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery War Sigil
Utility: 69.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 4 Dual Wield - 99 Flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 74.67

Right Hand
Name: Malice
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Thrust
Effect 6: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Spirit
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist - Rogue
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Skull of the Soul Keeper
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Belt
Name: Statuesque Girlde of Might
Level: 51 Quality: 98
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Spirit
Effect 3: 7 Energy
Effect 4: 13 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of Dances
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of Defiance
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 8 Body
Effect 2: 8 Heat
Effect 3: 8 Matter
Effect 4: 8 Thrust
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Heat
Effect 2: 6 Matter
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Wrist
Name: Maleficent Darkspire Tempered Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

 

[bigchief]

tbh its not good considering its not mainhandindependant and costs a fortune, u can get a similiar template with lower cost and better utility, u just have to tweak some

uhuh

go on then? Malice + ml10 weapon(as champ weapon is shite), capped melee, style and speed. 100str or higher, high hp/con, +11 to 4 skills.

I'd really like to see you produce something significantly better.

 

[Vladamir]

thaught it was 3.5 anyway wont do much differance and anyone with a brain will have a hastecharge up all the time, stats are similiar to ml10 offhand to so can easily be replaced with that

Grats on being pl'd first off.

If you're swinging with a 4.1/4.0 (whatever Malice or Lw's are) mainhand, and a 4.0 offhand, you're gonna swing once in a blue moon, even less with low DW (as most do).

And gl 'easily' replacing a ML10 wep

 

[Oboy]

Grats on being pl'd first off.

If you're swinging with a 4.1/4.0 (whatever Malice or Lw's are) mainhand, and a 4.0 offhand, you're gonna swing once in a blue moon, even less with low DW (as most do).

And gl 'easily' replacing a ML10 wep

gratz on beeing a tard
i dont have DR yet so thats why i dont know exactly stats
and read again, its easy to replace CW weapon with a ml10 one

 

[Oboy]

If you're swinging with a 4.1/4.0 (whatever Malice or Lw's are) mainhand, and a 4.0 offhand, you're gonna swing once in a blue moon, even less with low DW (as most do).

correct me if im wrong here: u only get the haste benfit from a fast off-hand when u actually swing with both weapons, otherwise u get a normal swing with normal speed, thats why SB benefits so much from getting a perma haste effect as they swing every round. Now if like u say most have low DW u will not swing both weapons so much so the benefit from the faster weapon will be less. If u actually swing with both weapons u will get a haste effect of 0.18 sec according to the calc on spydors web (4.0 spd vs. 3.2 spd)
If this is correct i have to ask myself whats best. 0.18 sec haste boost 50% of my swing or the stats that i get from a slower off-hand weapon.
Inputs on this pls

 

[Girafmad]

have tested it and no

well reuse timer on battler is 15 mins... this is not a charge but a proc...

 

[Vladamir]

correct me if im wrong here: u only get the haste benfit from a fast off-hand when u actually swing with both weapons, otherwise u get a normal swing with normal speed, thats why SB benefits so much from getting a perma haste effect as they swing every round. Now if like u say most have low DW u will not swing both weapons so much so the benefit from the faster weapon will be less. If u actually swing with both weapons u will get a haste effect of 0.18 sec according to the calc on spydors web (4.0 spd vs. 3.2 spd)
If this is correct i have to ask myself whats best. 0.18 sec haste boost 50% of my swing or the stats that i get from a slower off-hand weapon.
Inputs on this pls

I don't really give two fucks for the mechanics of a game i no longer play, i just know that having an offhand weapon with a swingtime >3.5s is a bad idea

But then again do as you please, grapple and poison is obviously the way to go!

 

[bigchief]

correct me if im wrong here: u only get the haste benfit from a fast off-hand when u actually swing with both weapons, otherwise u get a normal swing with normal speed, thats why SB benefits so much from getting a perma haste effect as they swing every round. Now if like u say most have low DW u will not swing both weapons so much so the benefit from the faster weapon will be less. If u actually swing with both weapons u will get a haste effect of 0.18 sec according to the calc on spydors web (4.0 spd vs. 3.2 spd)
If this is correct i have to ask myself whats best. 0.18 sec haste boost 50% of my swing or the stats that i get from a slower off-hand weapon.
Inputs on this pls

but the stats on the offhand slower weapon (champ weapon) can be gained elsewhere (ie ml10 weapon) which has a better speed for a high dw infil, hence why use a slow weapon when you can get all the bonuses you want with a better weapon?

Incidentally, if you're going to pm me a template (not you specifically, just in general to everyone) and go 'its better than yours!' .. do actually cap skills, 300+hp, 90+con, toa bonuses etc. Anyone can make a template with better resists than mine if ur willing to ditch other stuff which ive specifically said I'm not happy to lose at all.

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