in case nobody noticed....The Data Retention Directive

TdC

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The European parliament voted "yes" to the saving of telecommunications and internet data. As of july 2007 all EU countries must save phone, email and internet communications for a minimum of 6, maximum 24 months. This includes locational data from mobile phones.

Only header data will be saved, not content aparantly. This more or less means that they will be able to see who emailed who, but not what was written. Though not explicitly mentioned, it's a good guess that they're also going to keep track of what webpages people visit. The data will be used to "help prevent serious crimes" I believe, amongst other things.

Now anybody with half a brain will know that, at least on the internet, it's extremely easy to get around this if you can be bothered. I'm reasonably sure that this measure is to watch the 99.98 percent of the population who aren't hardened criminals and terrorists. I certainly hope that when Joe Average gets pulled over for speeding the nice policeman can pull up a list of the websites he's been visiting recently to check he's not a terrorist paedofile hippy radical anti-globalist starbucks hater who regularly emails his pal Osama @ thisisntaterroristhideout.org.</sarcasm> Roll on 1984!

Now I find this a hard argument: on the one hand I don't really care that others can see how much porn I surf, or that my mobile tells the man where I am at all times. The latter may even come in handy at some point tbh. On the other hand for this measure to be effective at all the data will have to be analized with minimal delay or it won't be useful for it's intended purpose at all. Tbh they may as well put a camera in my house to keep watch in case I suddenly develop an incling to make home made explosives. After all, they watch me in the street and on the internet as well :/
 

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The Data Retention Directive

http://wiki.ffii.de/DataRetPr051214En


The Data Retention Directive was adopted by the EU parliament 2 days ago. Its a directive that makes it compulsory for ISP's and telecomunication operators to save data on all trafic (telephoncalls, mobile phonecalls, emails, websurfing, downloading, uploading etc), location, duration, and target etc, for 24 months. This data can be accessed at will by authorities for *any* level of criminal suspicion and *any* level of crime. A followup directive that is being processed at the moment will also give *corporations* that have any interest in accessing the data the ability to do so, "to safeguard their interests".

Needless to say this is a *huge* step towards a total-control society, where all our habits, oppinions and doings are monitored for deviance. It scares me no end. And what is even scarier is that this directive was adopted in a very shady manner, in which the EU ministry made deals with two big groupings within the parliment to make them vote the way the ministry wanted. Also, this has happened very fast, and with minimal coverage from the media. Almost a total blackout.

We are headed towards a very dark and uncertain future, in which our civil and democratic rights are threatened.
 

Will

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Merged the threads. :)

Well, I can see a Firefox plug-in to proxify your browsing on the way. And to think our society felt so smug about the great firewall of China. Europe is just a wee bit more subtle about things.
 

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Just a question to the mod that merged my thread with the one its now ended up in: dont you think its better to have a thread clearly labelled for content such as i did than one that says nothing about what it contains?
 

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Well TdC's thread did have a curiosity factor built into its title...but thanks to you both anyway, being outside of Europe I completely missed this
 

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fair point. I've changed the title. I did deliberately leave it a bit vague tbh, but fair enough :)
 

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ooh, I wonder when the EU is going to do this? oh, wait..... :p
 

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