Impossible to kill Bonedancer 1v1 ?

[zane]

Originally posted by froler-mid
when i jump a BD its like:


"pls dont be buffed, pls dont be buffed"

You perform Perforat Artery perfectly!
You hit randomBD for 298dmg!
randomBD hit u for 10dmg.

oh no...
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./release
You not dead yet!
./release
You not dead yet!
./release
You not dead yet!
./release
You not dead yet!

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Pin
A Cabalist can beat BDs 1v1 with ease.

Indeed. A Cabalist can beat BDs 1v2 with... well, not with ease, but it can be done.

 

[piggeman]

Originally posted by Belomar
Indeed. A Cabalist can beat BDs 1v2 with... well, not with ease, but it can be done.

And what spec would that be?

 

[laimez]

Well here comes my experience, intrested or not.

So far i have losed two 1vs1 situations. One was versus a fully buffed nightshade who killed (unbuffed) me with pa+cd+something.

Second was versus cabalist who was standing at df-entrance, ae-dotted me and my pets (that went nuts cause it) and send his triple-uber-buffed pet who eventually killed (unbuffed) me.
(Man, that pet was like fighting against purple mob).

I see lots of talk about minstrels being able to kill a boney easy. I remember fighting against one unicorn knight minstrel without power, and won it (after like 10mins). Minstrels just dont do enought damage to outdamage the heals from pets or even lifetap. At least any of the minstrels ive seen so far.

I think that critblade assasins have the best change to kill boney, lucky there aint many of em (on my experience).


And pin / whyp, i would really like to duel your reaver someday, somewhere, if its possible. I remember we have met some morning at emain with nice hard fight (not 1vs1). Could remember wrong tho

P.s

Boners are here to stay, and like dev's say the suppression at endgame rvr is like they want it. So adapt and get used to it.

And before you yell nerfs here, give the class a try and see that there is lots of flaws on cost of survivalibility.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by laimez
And pin / whyp, i would really like to duel your reaver someday, somewhere, if its possible. I remember we have met some morning at emain with nice hard fight (not 1vs1). Could remember wrong tho

Mostly I'm in Odin's and usually in a guild group nowadays, but often solo/duo late on weekends (wno't be online for the next week though).

We fought a couple of times that morning, but yeah had adds on each side.


My experience is that Reavers do well against BDs. If the BD is unbuffed it's slam-levi-levi on the commander, then the same on the BD. If we're both buffed then absorb debuff helps greatly with damage on the commander, and if it gets close (or Purge is fired), UToS (pbae insta lifetap) hits for ~600 on each pet

 

[laimez]

Well ive never really met a rr5+ reaver in 1vs1 so hard to say, thats why i want that duel

Some low realm ranks have tried the same, but the time they start focusing on the commander i have free hands to doublenuke em to kingdom come. +ip +magic resistances makes a difference ofcooz.

 

[living]

dunno if this works..

some1 told me a infil/ns could PA, CD and then use vanish to PA, CD again.. is this possible?

if so.. no BD got a chance there

 

[svartmetall]

Originally posted by Arnor
but one of the least effective ways is whining it to death, like 90% of the ppl that meet one do

Amen to that. Wish more people thought that way.

 

[Armalite]

Originally posted by piggeman
What does anyone do when they are alone and he/she got a fg inc?
Think only one that could survive that is probebly Skald with End regen 5..

Nope, due to bugged skald chants witch drop every 6 or 9 second (random), speed 5 with end 5 from other realms will eventually catch up. Sad, but true.

 

[Nonnier]

any class with disease can kill a BD, as shown by uma on prydwen. (although he did attack me while i was killing a mob in df)

simple as that.

the sorcerer can't solo a bd very well cause the BD can chuck out more fire power then a sorcerer.

oh, and so can friars and LW hibs, for some reason.

any infil who doesn't use disease against a BD has very little chance of success.

 

[Nonnier]

Originally posted by nope
so it is possible but for most class, its difficult, even not fair you would say ?

ur name says it all

 

[Repent Reloaded]

No class that can mezz could beat a BD in 1vs1 be4 its pets broke out (supp BD) only class that can beat a BD hands down is a critblade, 1 PA, dead.

 

[kamik]

Originally posted by Pin
My Reaver can beat BDs 1v1 with ease.

A Cabalist can beat BDs 1v1 with ease.

You stupid.. only zerker in zerk mode can kill BD 1v1 i mean good BD not gimped, i lost only a duel with wrathofsauron and killed up to 3 different enemies in rvr solo

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by kamik
You stupid.. only zerker in zerk mode can kill BD 1v1 i mean good BD not gimped, i lost only a duel with wrathofsauron and killed up to 3 different enemies in rvr solo

so? i've killed 6 enemies in rvr solo, and tbh i rather take pin's word then yours.

slam, abs debuff or sumt, levi, levi etc etc, maybe dot aura to fuck up pets.

 

[vintervargen]

Originally posted by living
dunno if this works..

some1 told me a infil/ns could PA, CD and then use vanish to PA, CD again.. is this possible?

if so.. no BD got a chance there

yes you can use vanish to re-PA.

NS's cant have it tho, only infils

 

[vintervargen]

Q: How do i kill a BD 1vs1?

Aswer: Let Hobbish shoot it 2 times

 

[zico]

Originally posted by laimez
I see lots of talk about minstrels being able to kill a boney easy. I remember fighting against one unicorn knight minstrel without power, and won it (after like 10mins). Minstrels just dont do enought damage to outdamage the heals from pets or even lifetap. At least any of the minstrels ive seen so far.

When attacking a solo bonedancer with my minstrel i try and do this:

1) From stealth aoe mez pets.
2) Bd usually hasn't noticed his pets are mezzed yet, so start flute mez on bd.
3) DD, DD.
4) Flute mez lands.
5) Wait for DDs to recharge.
6) Stun.
7) DD, DD style and repeat.

You have to kill the bd quick before the mezz on the pets has wore off - but you can kill them solo by doing this, although its far from a guaranteed kill.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by kamik
You stupid.. only zerker in zerk mode can kill BD 1v1 i mean good BD not gimped, i lost only a duel with wrathofsauron and killed up to 3 different enemies in rvr solo

 

[aucard]

Originally posted by Armalite
Nope, due to bugged skald chants witch drop every 6 or 9 second (random), speed 5 with end 5 from other realms will eventually catch up. Sad, but true.

Not true, its your connection ( isp ) fault.
Lag.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Repent Reloaded
No class that can mezz could beat a BD in 1vs1 be4 its pets broke out (supp BD) only class that can beat a BD hands down is a critblade, 1 PA, dead.

Try air-spec theurg.

 

[toughguy]

Originally posted by laimez
Minstrels just dont do enought damage to outdamage the heals from pets or even lifetap. At least any of the minstrels ive seen so far.

You buy your char off ebay?

 

[horil]

Originally posted by toughguy
You buy your char off ebay?

He leveled his char hard way, not like you care but anyways, twat :great:

 

[piggeman]

Originally posted by toughguy
You buy your char off ebay?

It's true tho. A minstrel can't kill a BD solo. Ok, he can mess his pet, but that's all their is. I've played a couple of them myselfs, and as said above, they don't do enought dmg. Only way a mincer could kill a BD is problebly if he find him sitting somewhere afk...

Only one way to win - BAF!
(why do i say such things?) :wall:

 

[toughguy]

Originally posted by piggeman
It's true tho. A minstrel can't kill a BD solo. Ok, he can mess his pet, but that's all their is. I've played a couple of them myselfs, and as said above, they don't do enought dmg. Only way a mincer could kill a BD is problebly if he find him sitting somewhere afk...

I have solo killed bds before, and no they werent afk or sitting. If you have only played a minstrel a couple of times then you cant really comment tbh.

 

[piggeman]

Originally posted by toughguy
I have solo killed bds before, and no they werent afk or sitting. If you have only played a minstrel a couple of times then you cant really comment tbh.

Then it was probebly someone who wasn't lvl 50 or used epic. With SC armor it's impossible. I've killed several rr6+ minstrells solo. They where never even close. Even when they started the fight using aeo mezz on pets. Sorry m8, they don't do enough damage, period...

boho!

 

[jox]

Are we talking buffed or unbuffed bds here?

How much harder is a buffed bd to kill?

 

[piggeman]

I'm talking unbuffed. In emain I'm userly buffed, but when I roam in HW i'm userly unbuffed. And it's in HW I userly duel minstrells 1vs1. They are userly buffed tho!

 

[belth]

Originally posted by jox
How much harder is a buffed bd to kill?

Propably around 4-5x (if all pets fully buffed... 2 bots? Sad) due to buffs behaving differently on mobs.

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by jox
Are we talking buffed or unbuffed bds here?

How much harder is a buffed bd to kill?

unbufed BD's are 2shot materials...


dont think ive beaten a buffed BD yet....oO

 

[piggeman]

Originally posted by belth
Propably around 4-5x (if all pets fully buffed... 2 bots? Sad) due to buffs behaving differently on mobs.

Funny thing about buffed pets. My commander was fully buffed with cap buffs, as i got attacked by two infils and one minstrell. When the minstrell was dead and the first infil dropped, the second infil droped down on the ground without me nuking him once. My commander took him on his own.
Fully buffed pet give them insane str/con stats...

And fyi, it only take one shammy to fully buff a BD and his pets!