Im a Newb!

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lofff

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Actually Alrindel link resumes it all, sadly true, I had a ranger alt in beta too :/ still have him as lvl14 in exca :|

<reminds the old champ nerfing>

Well, maybe sumday achers will get sum luving, as champs did, altho they wont ever b the same class just as champs are NOT. (Once ago champs were light tanks with magical abilities to focus their power on 1 target and destroy it, nowadays they are just heavy tanks.)
 
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legolas

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wow, I had no idea how much they nerfed Archers. Thank you for http://www.daocscout.com/

I will still follow my heart though and play a Archer but there is one more request that I will ask you people...

Could somone please draw up a list that will explain the advantages and disadvantages of most classes if not all. Because I do not understand most of the classes, there seems to be 3/4 differant types of tank, what makes them differant from one another?

Oh and playing Morrowind in the meantime on my pc untill I can play Daoc does suck!!!

< Legolas >
 
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legolas

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Haha, that link was awsome. Thank you sooo much.
Surprisingly it did actually help me in seeing what the differant classes do...

... on that note, would it be possible to get some links or further information on the Bard, Warden and the Nightshade classes?

I hate being a newb, it really does suck. But, I just want to know what Im going to expect when I start playing.

thnx.
 
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Alrindel

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Bards and Wardens are both secondary healing classes - that is, they can heal and resurrect the dead, but not quite as well as the Druid who is Hibernia's primary healing class. The bard's primary ability is to be able to play songs (continuously running spells) which give the group high speed, constant endurance regeneration or constant mana regeneration - vital for any exp group to keep the time resting between fights to a minimum, but extremely boring for the bard. Bards are also Hibernia's primary mezzing class, that they get a range of mesmerize spells that let them freeze whole groups of attacking enemies in their tracks, giving the group time to kill them one by one - vital for any RvR group, but again not terribly exciting for the bards.

Wardens have a little bit more offensive ability than bards, but their most valuable ability is "pulsing bladeturn" - a continuously renewing shield around each group member that blocks enemy attacks. It's a long-standing joke that this is so valuable to a group that a warden will be welcome even if he doesn't make any other contribution whatsoever - he can turn the bubble on, stick to another group member and then go and watch a movie on TV, and the group will still be glad to have him.

Both wardens and bards are group friendly (well, wardens are from the time they get the first level pulsing bladeturn, at any rate) and don't usually have too much trouble finding a group.

The nightshade class is Hibernia's assassin class - he can stealth, apply poisons to his weapons to make them more effective, and at higher levels gets skills that enable him to climb the walls of enemy keeps to kill defenders inside. Nightshades are probably the worst class in Hibernia for leveling up: they are as unwanted in groups as rangers, and they can't solo as well as rangers who have the advantage of the bow. However because they are the only class left who can solo in RvR somewhat effectively (generally speaking) there are an awful lot of them out there - Thidranki, the low level RvR zone, in particular is packed with assassins from all three realms.
 
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Gabrial

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Archers are cool if you make sure you use the right arrows for the right job. Make sure you use the arrows that give you a + against the monster you are fighting - it makes killing yellows easy. With my scout on albion (and my ranger on hib but a long time ago:)) I could regularly drop yellow monsters in 4 arrows before they reached me.
 
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legolas

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Originally posted by Silba
Hail all,

Newbie Ranger here. Was wondering what was the difference between crafter made arrows vs store bought arrows.
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All store bought arrows and weapons are AUTOMATICLY 85% quality. the rule of thumb to follow is that the higher the quality the closer the item will preform at its maximum performance.

All crafted arrows and other stuff is at a minimum 94% quality. And a smart Fletcher will stack the 94 to 97 quality arrows on top of the 98 and 100 quality stacks to magicly improve the whole stack to the higher quality.

**edit**(deleted stuff about dmg bonus) thx oak, im just glad to be half right sometimes ***edit***

My suggestion is to find a guildie that has 500 in fletching and toss him 10 gold for a full stack of 400 arrows. Not only are you hooking up your local crafter but you are also getting FAR better arrows than you would from a dirt merchant.

new DAOC golden rule: Unless a drop is 100% quality there is a crafter that can make you a better one that will serve you better.


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Who are these crafters? NPC's? Players? Where are they found and why do they provide a service? Thnx.
 
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Alrindel

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Crafters are players who have trained in one (or more) of the trade skills and can manufacture equipment and weapons. There are currently four trades in the game: Armourcraft (reinforced and scale), Tailoring (cloth and leather), Weaponcraft (all weapons except for bows), and Fletching (bows, arrows and musical instruments). Two new trades will be added next week: spellcrafting and alchemy.

Why buy from crafters instead of NPC merchants? All NPC-sold material is 85% quality, where player crafted is 94% to 100% quality. Furthermore, NPCs only sell lower-level equipment, suitable for levels 1-26 or so. After that, the only gear is either dropped by monsters or crafted. Finally, it costs considerably less to make an item than to buy it from an NPC - although, naturally, what price a player crafter sets on his merchandise is entirely up to him.

One note about the preceding comment: while arrows do have a quality level, it's not taken into consideration by the game. It's the quality of the bow that matters: 85% quality arrows and 100% quality arrows do exactly the same damage. The advantage to buying crafted arrows is more direct: they're cheaper.

Where to find crafters? Crafters making lower level equipment can usually be found in Tir na Nog in the courtyard outside the palace, where the forge is. If you have some money to spend and you want to buy some gear, start there first. If you need higher level equipment, head for the town of Innis Carthaig, where the medium to high level crafters work their trade. If you can't find anyone there, try the who command - /who fletcher or /who smith which will display any crafters who have set their "open for business" flags on. Finally, if you need a very high level item and only one of the top crafters will do, you may need to make an appointment. Here's a recent-but-incomplete list of the crafters on Hibernia/Excalibur:
 
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Alrindel

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Armourcrafters:
1127 Lavelle Otonashi <Ithil Galad> the Level 50 Celt Bard
1126 Evoric Silverscale <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Hero
1126 Cjkace DragonEvader <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Blademaster
1122 Executor LightBlade <Ithil Galad> the Level 50 Elf Champion
1116 Brennik Wy <Lliad Ddraig> the Level 50 Firbolg Druid
1113 Corsair Shelgeyr <Fantasy> the Level 50 Celt Warden
1112 Laveneth Shadowcrafter <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Firbolg Warden
1068 Danita <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Heroine
1065 Spankya <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Celt Bard
1000 Wizard OfWar <Axiom Knights> the Level 50 Celt Hero
989 Tba Tethis <Draconis Alumni> the Level 50 Celt Druid
843 Norme <Vengeance> the Level 50 Celt Warden
822 Dinfar Alphaisawhiner <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Hero
800 Junni Trollslayer <Ilfirin Arda> the Level 29 Celt Hero
800 Balrog Thunderer <Vengeance> the Level 50 Firbolg Warden
767 Eoric MooseWrangler <Hearts of Fire> the Level 44 Celt Hero
700 Bardic Dreams <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 21 Celt Bard
667 Khefru <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Celt Hero
667 Tigersan Altaica <Na Suinn Catha> the Level 42 Firbolg Hero
663 Easdown TheBigMoosie <Axiom Knights> the Level 46 Celt Hero
633 Soulslayer Reyalslous <Big Fat Firby Bard> the Level 50 Firbolg Bard
609 Omygod Notagain <Soul Reavers> the Level 50 Firbolg Warden
550 Marcus Xavier <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 24 Celt Champion
542 Doonya Doo <Soul Reavers> the Level 40 Celt Champion
527 Paly Epla <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 45 Celt Hero
526 Alrindel Arrowsong <Silent Death> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
508 Cherubael Ortari <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 49 Firbolg Druid
507 Avindar Bleh <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Celt Warden
504 Rhana Thornheart <Vengeance> the Level 50 Celt Heroine
500 Donk TheGonk <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 39 Firbolg Hero
500 Garthan Rocksmasher <Earths Fury> the Level 41 Celt Druid
453 Wuren Gade <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Firbolg Hero
449 Ella <Tuatha de Mag Mor> the Level 50 Lurikeen Eldritch
410 Murarraan Viniard <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Firbolg Hero
404 Doog Amrak <Na Fianna> the Level 24 Celt Warden
400 Novgorod Demarcus <Sultans> the Level 33 Celt Hero

Tailors:
1135 Ella <Tuatha de Mag Mor> the Level 50 Lurikeen Eldritch
1133 Lisco Firestorm <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Elf Mentalist
1123 Popov TheExplodingElph <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Elf Eldritch
1108 Ebonn Changed <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Elf Nightshade
1107 Laryssa Ravenhurst <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 50 Lurikeen Mentalist
1010 Ziva <Axiom Knights> the Level 50 Elf Enchantress
915 Niteelf Mithrandir <Ilfirin Arda> the Level 45 Elf Enchanter
908 Yossarian <Soul Reavers> the Level 50 Elf Eldritch
891 Paranoia Strikes <Ithil Galad> the Level 43 Lurikeen Mentalist
844 Thalion <Tuatha de Dannan> the Level 50 Elf Enchanter
828 Mil DeathMagnet <The Fallen Order> the Level 50 Elf Enchanter
814 Herale Tailor <Soul Reavers> the Level 30 Lurikeen Enchanter
802 Tailor <Chosen> the Level 22 Lurikeen Ranger
755 Lilla <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 50 Lurikeen Mentalist
736 Geldor Gankvictim <Terra Dominus> the Level 50 Elf Eldritch
704 Bradandua Pendragon <Na Suinn Catha> the Level 49 Elf Enchantress
701 Mentolado <Lliad Ddraig> the Level 50 Elf Mentalist
700 Naque <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 24 Lurikeen Eldritch
681 Slicer TheDizer <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Elf Nightshade
671 Migan <Fantasy> the Level 46 Elf Eldritch
651 Corsair Shelgeyr <Fantasy> the Level 50 Celt Warden
643 Ingithib <Hearts of Fire> the Level 41 Elf Enchanter
638 Knife <Silent Death> the Level 29 Lurikeen Nightshade
617 Rolgar <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 41 Elf Eldritch
603 Sebula MobNuker <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Elf Eldritch
600 Gesp <Soul Reavers> the Level 46 Elf Eldritch
577 Tba Tethis <Draconis Alumni> the Level 50 Celt Druid
566 Wizard OfWar <Axiom Knights> the Level 50 Celt Hero
565 Cjkace DragonEvader <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Blademaster
556 Lunarionus Lunatic <Soul Reavers> the Level 50 Elf Mentalist
527 Findarae <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 16 Elf Enchanter
519 Laveneth Shadowcrafter <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Firbolg Warden
516 Tinbeard <Legends of Camelot> the Level 42 Lurikeen Nightshade
507 Dorathnae <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Elf Enchantress
506 Xanthian Z <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Elf Eldritch
504 Danita <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Heroine
503 Dinfar Alphaisawhiner <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Hero
500 Khefru <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Celt Hero
448 Novindus <Tuatha d'Anu> the Level 27 Elf Enchanter
414 Midget <Tuatha de Dannan> the Level 27 Lurikeen Enchanter
400 Alrindel Arrowsong <Silent Death> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
400 Rovak Trollbane <Dawn Keepers> the Level 37 Elf Eldritch

Fletchers:
1050 Merbos Arrowhead <Silent Death> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
865 Gomle Bloodstone <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 28 Lurikeen Ranger
807 Novo <Red Dragons of Wrath> the Level 50 Celt Ranger
716 Cutrisbow <Draconis Alumni> the Level 24 Elf Ranger
690 Sonny <Celtic Fist> the Level 49 Lurikeen Ranger
654 Reno <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 47 Celt Ranger
582 Avindor Icearrow <Draconis Alumni> the Level 50 Celt Ranger
573 Doas <Hearts of Fire> the Level 22 Celt Ranger
562 Hothnogg <Celtic Fist> the Level 42 Celt Ranger
561 Galis BadgerSlayer <Fantasy> the Level 35 Celt Ranger
547 Juanita Madrugada <Axiom Knights> the Level 41 Lurikeen Ranger
547 Vhaeruan MoonLight <Ithil Galad> the Level 39 Lurikeen Ranger
542 Gray <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
541 Spooks Alot <Hearts of Fire> the Level 43 Lurikeen Ranger
539 Tyreus Bowfinger <Axiom Knights> the Level 34 Celt Ranger
539 Eivilolas <Fantasy> the Level 45 Lurikeen Ranger
536 Nail <Terra Dominus> the Level 38 Lurikeen Ranger
536 Isambard <The Unseen University> the Level 31 Lurikeen Ranger
536 Spudgella <Defensor Advelo> the Level 21 Lurikeen Ranger
535 Sniiky <Celtic Fist> the Level 35 Lurikeen Ranger
533 Yoshie Sniper <Black Dragon> the Level 50 Lurikeen Ranger
527 Snow White <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Lurikeen Ranger
520 Celas Victoria <Red Dragons of Wrath> the Level 24 Lurikeen Ranger
518 Famee <Eel> the Level 24 Lurikeen Ranger
513 Gladnais <The Mantisfist Tribe> the Level 8 Celt Ranger
511 Tailor <Chosen> the Level 22 Lurikeen Ranger
509 Kalinzar TrySeth <The Frying Dutchmen> the Level 27 Celt Ranger
506 Gilgalad Trollslayer <Na Fianna> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
505 Thalion <Tuatha de Dannan> the Level 50 Elf Enchanter
505 Ella <Tuatha de Mag Mor> the Level 50 Lurikeen Eldritch
503 Lilla <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 50 Lurikeen Mentalist
464 Ebonn Changed <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Elf Nightshade
448 Alderian <Black Dragon> the Level 50 Celt Ranger
440 Lavelle Otonashi <Ithil Galad> the Level 50 Celt Bard
437 Sureshot <Ilfirin Arda> the Level 21 Elf Ranger
418 Evoric Silverscale <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Hero
407 Danita <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Heroine
406 Alrindel Arrowsong <Silent Death> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
402 Ioan <The Unseen University> the Level 29 Celt Ranger
400 Cjkace DragonEvader <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Blademaster
400 Branwolf ShadowDancer <Ithil Galad> the Level 50 Lurikeen Ranger

Weaponcrafters:
1063 Lum Chop <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Firbolg Hero
1060 Anrhefn ApKhefru <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 34 Elf Champion
1052 Laralyn Aaldaemon <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Celt Heroine
1048 Ortunga Earthsong <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Firbolg Bard
1042 Moric Annunaki <Terra Dominus> the Level 50 Celt Champion
1040 Garax DeathBringer <Armiger et Dementis> the Level 50 Firbolg Hero
1017 Avenn Jurr <Alliance of Power> the Level 46 Celt Hero
1016 Alrindel Arrowsong <Silent Death> the Level 50 Elf Ranger
882 Ceixava HAhaHAhaHAha <Lliad Ddraig> the Level 50 Celt Blademaster
763 Elricstormbringer Glorindel <Ilfirin Arda> the Level 50 Elf Champion
650 Setakari HasQuitTheGame <Na Fianna> the Level 40 Celt Champion
539 Triskin Shadowblade <Lliad Ddraig> the Level 50 Celt Hero
531 Laveneth Shadowcrafter <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Firbolg Warden
531 Arneem <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 19 Firbolg Hero
529 Evoric Silverscale <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Hero
454 Orriy Shadows <Fantasy> the Level 37 Celt Blademaster
433 Fest <Llaw Arian> the Level 50 Lurikeen Champion
428 Yishen <The Brotherhood of Hibernia> the Level 8 Celt Bard
409 Cjkace DragonEvader <Celtic Fist> the Level 50 Celt Blademaster
404 Khefru <Clan Bearhawk> the Level 50 Celt Hero
 
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