Ignorance and arrogance in rvr as of late

[old.mattshanes]

I have had numerous complaints from several people about others in rvr not ressing them just going over their bodies and not doing anything over and over.The people that i have heard of doing this from time to time should know better realise it makes them look bad and weakens the realm even more.

The ones who need a res usually are the brave and worthy albs especially if they are even con and common albs in rvr you see at the frontline.

So in future this applies to everyone if you got a resser please res no matter who are what they are.

It's not helping us at all otherwise.

 

[shani]

Couldn't agree more

 

[old.mattshanes]

I hope everyone reads this thread and passes message on.

 

[old.Gryllus]

You know Matt, if you need to post messages like this, it already stinks somewhere.
Something is something sick in the mentality of those people who run away for some RP-s , and stepping on the dead bodies of their own realm-mates, not caring that they need ress.

If I ever decide to leave this realm or this game , it will happen because of these people.
There are unlimited possibilities of cooperation, taktics, and teamplay in this game, that's why I decided to play with it.

There are still players, of course, who try to cooperate and play like a member of a team, but those teams or persons who think they dont need anyone therefore they dont help anyone, make things bitter.

 

[Lochlyessa]

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Matt, do you realise how much mana a lvl 50 res takes? with aug acu 3 and ethereal bond 1(3% more power, dunno why i took it), I can manage 2 lvl 50's, then a third with mcl. That then leaves me without power for a good minute and a half - if someone on /gc says 'omg mids at mmg', my group runs there, and I can't heal them = bad.

But still, I do try to res people, like @ mmg y'day, where I was the only 'proper' resser, altho I did see 2 paladins (on a side note, why do palas always choose to start ressing my targer, when i'm 9 seconds thru casting anyway? gives the person a naff res, and wastes my power.)


But again, getting back on topic - arrogance because someone hasn't ressed you? Perhaps they didn't have enough power and their group were on their way to kill stuff?

Ignorance - guessing you mean msging people and them not replying? do you actually realise how many res requests an average cleric gets in a day? I mean heh, one day I was in DF, got a res request, I ask where, they say emain..

But still, I'm not sure who you're actually accusing of being ignorant/arrogant, but all of the commonly RvRing clerics that I know of, will try and stop and res you, even if it means moving a bit - if you know some that don't, kindly tell me, and I'll think about giving them a 3 sec res next time they ask

 

[old.mattshanes]

It wasn't me,it was from about 10 albs so far(nope i am not over bragging this amount),loch surely a low power res wouldn't cost much?and besides someone running over someone elses body 3-4 times in a row,come on surely that takes the piss.

Not saying it's you or aiming it at you,but even paladins sometimes are doing this.As gryllus said it has made me pissed off that i had to even post it here to make people aware of it.

P.S Loch you are a good cleric

 

[Lochlyessa]

12 second res = same amount of power usage as a 3 second res. That's one of things that really annoy me about high level rejuv :/

And matt, ask these 10 or so people for names, cos atm, with your post you're tarnishing the reputations of most of the commonly RvRing clerics, just for the sake of a few who didn't/couldn't res your friends.

And tbh, I perfectly agree with paladins not ressing when me or Redb or Alea, or Nee(the list goes on) are around

 

[Lochlyessa]

Should've put this in the first post, but about running over peoples bodies and not ressing..

Some of the time, if I'm tired, or theres sun in my eyes, I can't actually tell the difference between Norseman Elding Vakten and <Insert random long alb name here>, especially if they haven't got any guild, so yes, it might seem to be taking the piss, but perhaps those clerics/paladins just haven't noticed you're on their side yet

 

[old.mattshanes]

No i do not wish to say the names of these people,it be unfair to their guild and them because i could be wrong on from using someone elses opinion but i have seen it a few times myself but from different people mentioned to me sadly.

Anyway it's not really important saying who, just that if people follow this hopefully this issue will be resolved or i will not hesitate to say on here the people if i keep getting complaints from other albs sent to me due to this and seeing it from my view.

Now that sound fair enough?

 

[Taggart]

Well i used to always rez in rvr and anyone that knew me back on alb would agree with me, when we were charging and peeps were lying dead id rez em. People who don't stop to rez are just wankers and i knew a few people like that, i also know that sotl aren't the kinda guild that "wastes" man on a rez for someone other then there own guildies, one of the reasons why not many peeps like them.

The guys i always really seen rezz peeps are the good paladins like vermilion, purificator, krixxer, battlez, havocas, bartar, Yussef and Turamber.

 

[Lochlyessa]

Pft, fine

But again, I'd just like to stress the amount of power res's take, s'like half a mana bar for a lvl 50 res.

If there's a pile of dead people at an mg, normally I'll res a cleric/friar first, then a minstrel, and tell em to party up, then wander off to keel some more mids/hibs.

Now, flame meh for not ressing everyone!

 

[old.mattshanes]

Well fair points and replies from people but i am closing this thread now but i just want to people to think in rvr now more wisely and not just there for rps to make them seem gods gift yet some people have only rvred for a month or so and got a lot of rp and now think they are that.

Bring back the old school days

Anyway please lets get this right and not let it get worse so it makes it enjoyable for everyone.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Bah i re-opened this thread due to some people moaning me closing it

 

[Turamber]

Re: .....

Originally posted by Lochlyessa
(on a side note, why do palas always choose to start ressing my targer, when i'm 9 seconds thru casting anyway? gives the person a naff res, and wastes my power.)

Because (a) we're trying to help our realm mates and (b) because we don't always see everything that is going on around us. Believe it or not with people to rez, casters (& clerics!) to protect, resist chants to run its a busy old life as a Paladin.

I agree that we could be a bit more observant, but please don't complain at us trying to rez people. After all you can disrupt your rez and save it for healing the person when rezzed, much more mana efficient for you surely?

Anyway - get used to it. If 1.55 does indeed include realm points for rezzing people you'll be crushed beneath the boots of plated feet as pally's everywhere RUN to rez dead people

 

[Meatballs]

you dont cancel your 12 second rez because you see a paladins arms waving about 3 seconds before the end of it...

one suggestion, stand on the people you are trying to rez, if everyone does that, then most people wont get confused. Course it wont work when ya in action and need to rez from range, but will stop quite a few i'd guess

 

[Euthanasia.]

That's a good idea ..or a better one would be to shove a big sharp in pin in Lochlyessa's head to pop that big ol' fucking over sized ehad of hers..
now how about that for an idea!

 

[liste]

Dont think Lochlyessa would like that

 

[Garaen]

I am usually one of the first dead on the battlefield, i like to run ahead of the group and start mezzing, i am targeted first and BAM! floored. ( I really should of been a tank ) : )

I usually get ressed, it just takes patience, if the resser has a group, or can currently see enemys of course they wont res until its all clear, its not often i have to /send someone that just ran over me and ask for a res as i usually do get ressed sharpish.

 

[Delket]

Originally posted by Taggart
... i also know that sotl aren't the kinda guild that "wastes" man on a rez for someone other then there own guildies, ...

This is BS m8, a lot of the time we spend in emain is going to rez a group of fallen albs. Ok we may not come instantly and we may clean the immediate area of danger when we get there but as far as im aware we never say we wont rez unless it would be suicidal to go do so. We all gotta obey walker in emain, and hes always sparking on about rezzin people

 

[Euthanasia.]

Delket blows big hairy camels

 

[old.Kladen]

it will all change in the future patches.

 

[old.Krusha]

I agree with you Matts.. 'cept this...

Originally posted by old.mattshanes

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The ones who need a res usually are the brave and worthy albs especially if they are even con and common albs in rvr you see at the frontline.
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So if you dont con even to you or its someone you never seen in rvr he should be given a second thought about ressing?

Im sure its just me missinterpreting , but it has a bad ring to it

 

[old.mattshanes]

What i was trying to say there was you get our lv50s vs their lv50s and some either piss off back to the apk or hug the dam pk like earlier on,too much elite shit where people have only rvred a month or two and have 300k+ or whatever then think they are god.Yet they can't even come and help other albs beat 1 fg of mids like earlier on this morning.

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

just my thoughts, isnt it more efficient if pallies rez and clrerics give a small/medium heal? that way more ppl are capable of walking in the same amount of time. dunno what costs more mana though.

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by Cavex ElSaviour
just my thoughts, isnt it more efficient if pallies rez and clrerics give a small/medium heal? that way more ppl are capable of walking in the same amount of time. dunno what costs more mana though.

AFAIK it is more mana efficient. Only people who should be given cleric super heals, IMHO, are other rezzing classes and casters with power bars which need the powered rez.

 

[breon2]

I think the main attitude in albion is "whats in it for me"

 

[old.Mitsu]

Except all versions of res costs the same mana

Around 50% for a yellow.

 

[Sharma]

I see a person, i rez em in RvR, im a healer with the ability to rez, i should at least use it.

If you are lvl 50, rezzing a yellow con shouldnt take much of your mana.

 

[old.willowywicca]

check the 1.55a patch notes.. people may start to res more soon

 

[old.Dugald]

It's prolly been said above but i couldn't even be arsed to read what some ill informed people were saying....

What some people fail to realise, and has i would have thought been pointed out above, is how much mana it cost to rez a lvl 50 player i.e. 50% - thats if u are lvl 50 yourself.

now if i'm in a grp in RvR my responsibility is to THAT group first and foremost. if i use all my mana doing 2 rezzes i then have MCL 1 to use for healing the group. take it to its logical conclusion if we are in the combat or the enemy is nearby my grp will die and therefore require rezzing themselves. while they wait they will of course be shouting at me for not having healed.

on the other hand if there is no immediate danger then i would, and hope anyone who can rez would do similar, stop and rez away.

what people should do if they feel they have been ignored while eating grass (sorry - examing the local flora and fauna up close) is to PM a GM of the offending guild and not get someone else to do their complaining for them.

right I'm off to play a medic in bf1942... but never get my medpack out