Idealist or BS ?

[old.Mr Crapini]

In my idealistic littel world, I am wondering if the following guff would be possible to implement on a server or two:

Maps with the standard skins so nobody out there is using blank or white maps.

Player bots with the standard skins so no1 can use 8 foot tall bots for the enemy team that can be seen crouching behind boxes. (seen on a former clanmates demo) Or using brightly couloured bot skins.

Standard weapon skins so that the box used to restrict the size of CS weapons can't just be filled with red for example which would give enemy players no where to hide as a four x two x two foot box is sticking out of their arm.

The standard sounds used in the correct places so that enemy footsteps where ever they are in the map don't sound as though they are running accross metal roofs.

Standard crosshairs in scoped weapons with standard zoom rates.

Basically virtually everything as it should be with the exceptions of the control, video and audio settings, and the contents of the config.cfg file.

I am concerned about the above because I don't know if you all would consider this cheating, cos I sure as hell do and I have occasionally suspected meeting people on BW servers using 1 or more than 1 of those things up there and in my opinion the use of any them give an unfair advantage and therefore I think it needs to be stopped.

Disclaimer
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All the above is subject to weather or not the BW anti-cheat software discriminates players in any of the above ways and if they are atall possible. (as has no idea)

 

[Ch3tan]

Tell that to Valve.

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

That's the politest way I have ever seen of saying its a load of Bull

 

[Tom]

Hmmm, crapini you seem to have a remarkabley keen understanding of the ethos of cheating.

OK who's gonna say it first........

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

On the contrary my dear fellow

 

[S-Gray]

On a note of this, i remember when i first started CS a few months ago, that there was a command where you said " GLOW <Colour> ", what was the need for this Command, andis it a "cheat", altho this was quite a while back, posibly 3months

 

[Ch3tan]

not bullshit

Its like having a pure server option isn't it? where everything is locked, ala quake 3. He's not chatting bullshit, it's a good idea that valve tried to take a step towards by locking models. Unfortunetly the entire skinning community shouted out against it.

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Skinning community, Pah!, let them eat cake (or Quake).

Not enough sensible responses here to get us a BW Pure CS server tho :/

 

[Skyler]

Glow command is adminmod only...


anyway crapini i agree with you mostly but there is no way to stop those things.....

there is no such thing as a "pure" server... if there was im sure virtually everyone in the cs world would be running one...

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

I use the standard stuff... no preference really.

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

I also use the standard stuff... but would prefer it if all did.

 

[Skyler]

wont happen, stop dreaming

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Originally posted by Edgar Allan Poe
Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night.

 

[Will]

Well, I'm involved in the skinning community indirectly (some of my mates are skinners, I have no artistic skills myself, all I can skin is smokable), and I feel that the ability to change the models/skins keeps a lot of people interested in the game.

I don't like people changing player models myself, and the p_models are checked for discrepancies. If the models were locked, and the player model skins, but not the weapon skins, I think this would keep everyone happy.

 

[old.Jas]

Originally posted by ItchyTrigaFinga
all I can skin is smokable

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Originally posted by ItchyTrigaFinga
If the models were locked, and the player model skins, but not the weapon skins, I think this would keep everyone happy.

Is this possible to implement ??
Can this be Implemented ??

Shame the 50 or so other ppl that read this didn't give an opinion :/

 

[*Kornholio*]

Originally posted by Mr Crapini quote:
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Originally posted by Edgar Allan Poe
Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night.

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EAP posts here ?? My my... this place is getting popular...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Well, CS resources aren't stored in paks, so a pure server would be hard to implement.

The current file consitancy works very well. Getting a custom P model to be ignored is very hard, and generally means making the model exactly the same mass as the original. I'm not totally knowledgable with reguards for th Q3 system, but i think it does allow for custom models, just not modified pak files.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Now, where did I put me naked women skin pack...

 

[Will]

Well, as far as I understand it, the server already checks for p-model consistancy, so spike models are a more complex hack than just changing the model. However, when you are skinning a model, it is divided into model and skin. Although I don't have the programming knowledge to back it up, I'm sure it would be possible to lock down certain elements of it while freeing up others.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by D0LLySh33p
Now, where did I put me naked women skin pack...

Beastiality? That's well sick.

Tomuke:

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Well thx very much for the sensible responses guys to the rest, I wanted this to be a serious thread because if I was to implement those things up there none of u would stand a chance and none of you would think it fair, to those that use them already on public servers or in clan games you suck !!!
Any further entries or relavent responses greatfully recieved

 

[throdgrain]

Must admit I wasnt aware of such a problem, but if such a thing could be done then that would be a GOOD THING.
I dont personally use any other skins for cs.