I want my Subscription money back!!

[thelimey]

I have always played BW servers on TFC, but since I have payed for the privelage no other bugger plays on the servers!!

Make them public again for christ sake, but give BW members priorty when joining them or something.. If you play TFC don't pay to play

Life sucks.. my woman doesn't!!

 

[S-Gray]

heh the word *tough* crops up somewhere in this conversation

What happens if I unregister from BarrysWorld Membership whilst I am subscribed?

If you unregister from BarrysWorld Membership whilst you are a subscriber, you will lose the remainder of your subscription without refund. Any Barries in your BarryBank account will also be lost without refund. The Unregister page will warn you if you are a subscriber or have Barries in your account.

 

[Tom]

I sympathise with the guy. He paid for a premier service, and isn't receiving what he thought he would get. I think he might have a point....

 

[.Cask]

Well technically he is getting exactly what he payed for: access to the BW servers (along with the other bollocks). So I don't see why they should offer a refund as 'other players' weren't really part of the terms

They should definately open up a couple servers to the public, tho. The hardware is just going to waste as it is, and peeps need some opponents when the P2P servs are empty. It's silly forcing people to play on other servers.

Or maybe put some java games on the site to keep us occupied during the quite hours

 

[*Kornholio*]

Yeah not a bad idea... Gamesdomain has servers for subscribers, and ones that are open to the public... seems to work for them...

 

[scooby-doo]

dont you think its funny that no one from barrys has made any comments lateley or made any sort of extra advertising or infact telling us anything at all about why this job has been so fucking botched.thanks for the subs now fuckoff seems to spring to mind.






sorry to be so negative but im sick of signing in to find fuckall on any of the servers im even playing uk2 now and i never used to before.so now youv'e completely aliananted most of your regular players and lets face it your support ,i want to know what the fuck you are going to do about it.

 

[S-Gray]

Well, ive seen a few well knows players (Naming no names here) playing on BlueYonder, upon asking them why thye aint on Barrysworld anymore they said like fuck are they paying.

Obviously, Barrysworld could have generated better Advertising but i would have said maybe 20+ more would have signed up.

Main Reasons would be because..

They dont wanna Part with their Cash no matter how cheap it is

Half where Kids who dont wanna get daddy to pay for em

Some where cheaters

Some where scared of the competition (Lets face it, since BW has turned Sub. there has been more Teamwork)

 

[scagman]

barrysworld today

Having been away from BW for awhile I've returned to find it's just no fun any more - The servers appear to be dead with a lot of the old names missing. There's just no atmosphere any more man - A couple of PUBLIC servers are wots needed - we cant all afford to pay to play. I mean these games aren't cheap. Now I know that it's a business not a charity but surely there's a way to do this
It used to have areal nice feel to this site and on it's servers - for gods sake it WAS a community of like minded ppl and it would be nice to get some of those vibes back - or maybe this is the way the web is heading - like everything else the money men are taking control and soon we will all be paying thru the nose for everything. I cant be the only one to fell this way, can I??
It cannot be a coincidence that the servers are dead while the free servers are jiving and hot with plenty of atmosphere and ppl having FUN!!!

 

[Soul!!`]

why should BW pay for advertising when it has the few gamers who paid to pimp it to their m8s ? i was away in states when the change happened but i gather from what i have heard the pre-change advertising wasnt exactly great, so prob lost all the casual (non-forum reading) people cause to them BW just stopped replying to ping on their gamespys, if they pinged low and showed gamers having a good time surely people would b more enticed to want to join these people, who cares about a secret load of 9999 servers tho? or am i missing something like an ip change and they can still b scanned by non subscribers? flame meh if they are plz either way far as my gamespy is concerned those servers r b0rked and thats what any casual gamer who used to go on them will think.

what if barrysworld took off with the p2p thing, everyone follows suit to get in on the cash? the end of free servers? (well decent ones anyway) think that would quite simply kill any newbie interest, granted the game is argh years old anyway but still people starting up to this day. not sure who mentioned it but i liked the idea of having public servers but if a member wanted ur spot you were kicked, that would entice people to pay the 'small' amount i would think if they were being kicked half way through a good game. or like being kicked after being on the server an hour or something like that, a taster, a tease.

one thing i wasnt sure about when i was checking into the subscription thing, was there was a 60k cap on dl's unless you were on their connected janet (that right?!??!?) what if you are on a really good conn but not janet u limited to 60k? if so that sux .... uploads to their members should have a higher cap then 60k a person on a good conn like a 1Mb cable is paying the same 24 quid as someone sat on a janet conn.

Only used to play CS on BW so cant really speak for the TFC side of things nevermind the DOD etc but from what i have heard from people, looks like those servers are practically defunkt now, bit of a waste, CS imo was the only place where you 'might' have got money from people but only cause its so popular, the other mods been sacrificed for the sake of getting cash from the CS players? seems like something needs to b done anyway, will b nice to hear the official word on it, hopefully later in this thread?

I aint payed yet, but still might, i started on BW and have had alot of gg's on there, from reading the forums i want a blast at the KEA crew lol seems like you are having gg's just not enough of them, but sounds like a recipe for disaster, after the initial joiners sounds like going to have more people leaving then joining, few of my clan mates were off to a BY server earlier even though they have paid for BW, kinda sad state of affairs to have those nice servers sitting there doing nothing, sure there must b a couple of ppl high up in BW that are there for the gamers, let see something changed plz

well this is my longest post ever ..... according to this my only one but thats only cause i had to re-register did Ono not pay for the subs? he used to b around on forums all the time and i aint seen anything by him for a while, will prob end up paying for subs either way so hope to have a few ggs and own jobbie with my mackem skillz (ur pwned jobs ) /me asks for flames after that fucking abysmal performance on saturday lol

[A&I]Soul

i know no1 read these far down but i dont care so n3r

 

[Strange`]

Originally posted by *Kornholio*
Yeah not a bad idea... Gamesdomain has servers for subscribers, and ones that are open to the public... seems to work for them...

That would be Gamesdomain as in not-making-any-money-so-it's-being-shut-down Gamesdomain.

 

[Will]

The ftp goes over 60k/sec if you are with a direct peered ISP (virtually any UK ISP).

 

[Ch3tan]

Any public servers will stop people wanting to subscribe, and will make the people that have all ready payed anoyed that they did.

Gamesdomain charged £10 a month for subs, and still had public servers, I played on the public ones -as I gather did a lot of their acyuall paying members. Gamesdomain is now shutting down.

As was said in the general forum advertising is coming soon.

 

[scooby-doo]

as always ch3tan you are most helpful.but why are you the only one ever telling us whats happening.i think m8 that you are in the same boat as us,in the way that even you dont know what they are planning.its like the fucking x files this

 

[scooby-doo]

oh and another thing the reason ive been playing on uk2 (cough)
is that they have people on them not that im going there for the camaradre.because the people on there are idiots but hey.

 

[S-Gray]

You mean really you wanna beat up the Kiddies and Hax0r3z?

 

[ECA]

my view is that BW should have advertised on the servers, whenever I mentioned it people asked me if it was true etc.

Most of the time people dont go to the servers website etc.

I also think it should be done similar to blueyonder, ie 10/16 slots free to public the rest to subs only.

 

[scooby-doo]

yeh thats an idea make 1 server free to the public and use this server to advertise for the rest,it will always probably be full but thats good for the advertising.im sure they can get there heads together and think of something.

 

[ZaPpeh]

There are and have always been plans to make the servers used, Its all still going to plan, these things take time.
Do you really think that the GAME bods would just expect everyone to sign up and play whilst there are free alternatives?
Of course not, keep watching your local GAME store for details
Barrysworld will be bigger than ever, I'm pretty sure of it.

 

[throdgrain]

Yep ,and we will have been there at the start. And will anyone care ??

Nar

 

[Skyler]

Limey definitely has a point, people were reluctant enough to part with the small sum of cash when they thought others would actually play on the servers, now they know that the place is practically deserted there is even less chance of them signing up.

Making a server public wouldnt attract much attention either, it would probably fill, but with the wrong sort of people, you dont want the kind that use the in game browser, or the real casual players, they wont pay for something they barely play, especially when its free elsewhere. You need to attract the serious players, the ones who play online competitions, target clans in the BWCSL, if all BWCSL clans signed up youd probably double the numbers of players on the servers. You need to target people who would pay for the service, the ones who "need" to play it, I'm one of those, I play the game enough to warrant paying for it. But even these kind of players wont pay for BW unless they know that BW is better than the rest, which atm it is not. Even before subs, those kind of players who preffered BW over others like BY were few, what needed to be done was to show them that BW was the better, and to attract them to BW before making people pay, this wasnt done and now you have the current situation...

Those players now populate BY, they prefer BY and would be much more likely to pay for BY, they cant see or play on BW servers, so have no idea if they are good or bad, the reports they are getting is of them being dead, which wont make them want to sign up either. I hate to say it but atm BY runs a much better operation than BW has done. I cant see that changing either

As for advertising in Game stores, that is flawed also, the majority of people who frequent Game stores are console gamers, then take the section of PC gamers who go into the stores, half of those dont play online games. The rest who do play online, some of those probably dont even play online games that much. So you are left with a small amount of actual 'serious' online gamers who go into Game stores. Of those, how many would buy Quake 3, and then decide to pay another £12 for the privelage of playing it on unpopulated servers, when they could just buy the game hop online, into the ingame server browser (which most would use), and straight onto another GSP which is free. I can see them starting special deals, like "buy this game and get a years free BW subscription" but with all the hassle of logging in everytime your IP changes, or getting BarryLogon, would people really do it, when they could have less hassle and potentially more fun ?


I dont know how BW are going to get out of this hole they appear to be in, certainly they are making more money than before, but I cant imagine its anywhere near what it costs to run, by a long way. Its a shame to see this happen to BW as its been my main gaming home for around 4 years now, I still support BW, but I have no choice about where I play, and that isnt BW.


Something needs to be done and fast, because I am seeing a fair few subscribers upset about the emptiness of BW and the fact that they paid for nothing. (Although they seem to forget that the subscription is for 1 year, a lot can happen in that time) I guess people just want instant satisfaction, and they partly have a point, when you see free servers that are brimming with players, and are run just as well (if not better), and then you pay for access to a GSP, you would expect those servers to have more players, and to have better servers, perhaps even more servers, and generally be better than the free ones.


Gonna leave it there and see what the rest of you say

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Skyler
Gonna leave it there and see what the rest of you say

Use less commas?

No seriously. The games I have had on BW since p2p have been cracking. So, when it take off i'm certain that BW will be the best GSP again.

Anyway, I have managed to pimp a few peeps from BY recently. All it takes is a little reasoning and a small explanation of the pros of joining BW. The guys that dont share a brain cell with the rest of their family soon see why £12 is money well spent.

Although 2 or 3 peeps wont make a differnence, the right advertising should do wonders.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Give it time.

 

[ZaPpeh]

There are plans afoot, from what ive been told they cant fail.
there are thousands and thousands of PC games being sold through GAME stores each week. If they get just a 5% takeup then BW will be more popular than it has ever been within 6 months

 

[Soul!!`]

Originally posted by ZaPpeh
There are plans afoot, from what ive been told they cant fail.
there are thousands and thousands of PC games being sold through GAME stores each week. If they get just a 5% takeup then BW will be more popular than it has ever been within 6 months

1 in every 20 people who buys a game is going to subcribe to play online games at BW, erm think thats more than a little optomistic zap. maybe 1 in 20 who buy half-life, but remember this is an old game. (i know BW does alot more than just HL / CS but lets face it thats the community that is biggest and that concerns most the ppl on this forum) newer games are coming out so there are less and less newbies on CS. you need to get in the old timers lol most of the gamers i know dont 'buy' games v much.

advertise by all means but i wouldnt count on just pimping it to people who buy stuff from game stores. if you want ppl to buy ur product they have to b able to see it, no1 would buy the new jaguar without seeing it if u know what i mean? right now all they see is servers that dont ping, one public, lag free, cheater free, fast server with stats mods, like showing how much dmg you did to who and who did what to you, if this server was constatnly full (with say half non-subscribers) when they wanted to get onto that one server that they really like but couldnt cause it was full, surely they woudl think bout paying that 2 quid a month to get to the other servers. but you have to show them a lag free, cheat free enviorment, otherwise you are no different from the free servers and hence are not worthy of getting the cash. ppl love stats 2 and the one that shows you how much dmg u did to ppl is always a nice touch.

[A&I]Soul

 

[Skyler]

I allready explained about Game stores, BW will appeal to a very small minority of their PC customers...

 

[Ch3tan]

Basically Zap is trying to say big things are on the horizon, but he can't tell you what, because no one is allowed.

 

[Tom]

Cleverer and more enlightened people have discussed this, in a more private arena. I'm sure they thought about these issues.

 

[scooby-doo]

in that case ill shut my mouth and learn to have a little patience,its just nice to know they are actually doing something and not just sitting back and reaping the rewards.

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Tom[SHOTTEH]
Cleverer and more enlightened people have discussed this, in a more private arena. I'm sure they thought about these issues.

ignore me i was pissed

 

[Ch3tan]

I think he means the BW staff and people from GAME. I doubt they would have gone p2p without a definate plan laid out.