I think i've just jizzed my pants

[BloodOmen]

yes i'm an mmo nerd - intro from blizzards upcoming WoW expansion.

YouTube - Cataclysm Cinematic Intro


deathwing <3

 

[Himse]

cool, shame it'll just be a repeat of everything in Lich King, just with different bosses etc.

all the quests will be similar, all the pve will still be boring.

 

[Dvaerg]

Its golestandt!!

 

[Olgaline]

Yes because expansions really are yhe life of mmo's..no wait..I mean..eh..erhm...



what!? who are you looking at?...yeah...I thought so...chump!

 

[BloodOmen]

cool, shame it'll just be a repeat of everything in Lich King, just with different bosses etc.

all the quests will be similar, all the pve will still be boring.

cata will be different from WOTLK in difficulty they don't want people to faceroll content and get welfare epics handed out left right and center as for everything being the same yes the generic kill quests/go here etc etc quests will be the same but then again generic quests are the same in every single game there will be unique none generic quests as always.

 

[Afran]

cata will be different from WOTLK in difficulty they don't want people to faceroll content and get welfare epics handed out left right and center

if only, doubt it'll turn out like that, it's only got easier and easier with expansions since vanilla

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah they're gonna change a lot with cata, not just "add a mob to bash".

Things like healers need to dps, can't spam abilities, whole revamp of all classes etc.

They said themselves that lichyking was too easy and thus, this will not be.

Bliz does know it's cinematics, and again, looks like a bitch to kill that one, not like Lichy who was just a bitch

 

[Thorwyn]

Friend of mine is working on the english-german translation of Cataclysm. She didn´t tell me any details, but she said that the quests are great... and that means a lot coming from her.

 

[Raven]

Sort of tempted to see what its like but cant really be arsed to go through the equipment grind yet again. Levelling in WoW has always been pretty fun but the end game is utter shit, unless they overhaul it I can't see it being any different.

 

[Fafnir]

Well grew tired of WoW in may not played since then, but looking forward to this. To see what new things they will come up with.

 

[Access Denied]

Never played WoW, the misses did and we both found it too cartooney for our tastes. Spoilt by DAoC we have been!

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Holy fuck thats an awesome intro

Its going to suck to be in Crossroads or Auberdine. Or maybe it will be awesome to be there.

I tend to play WoW for a while when there is new content then take anything up to year or so out once I'm done with it. I don't particularly raid because RL tends to be firmly in the way so once the 'casual' content is completed my toons go back to sleep.

Patch 4.01 was last week and the changes to classes are significant, hints of the faceroll-removal already there. Tanks cannot frontload so much threat and a lot of the classes' main abilities have shifted to single target.

Its taken them 6 years but warlock Doomguards and Infernals are finally useful.

 

[Everz]

OH yay.

 

[ECA]

cata will be different from WOTLK in difficulty they don't want people to faceroll content and get welfare epics handed out left right and center as for everything being the same yes the generic kill quests/go here etc etc quests will be the same but then again generic quests are the same in every single game there will be unique none generic quests as always.

Right, why change now after running that road ever since the first ~8months of vanilla.

LOL.


Also fucking lol at the tier 11 armour looks, they ran out of good looking ideas around tier 3, they need some new artists.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Still one of the best MMO out there, even the best if you want something to have fun with.

 

[Gray]

Really like the looks of the mage tier set, looks pretty imba.

They are running out of ideas slightly though, everyone has roughly the same gear whether they PvP or PvE. But every now and then they pull out some awesome sets, like the Paladin t10

 

[fettoken]

Now did you really have to go and use that word?

 

[BloodOmen]

Aye Tohtori the class changes have already happend they're just tuning the numbers now as for difficulty in Cataclysm it'll be a mix of Vanilla + TBC - aoe tanking instances is dead they said they want to break aoe tanking and bring back alot of cc'ing required things (they've stuck to their word thus far on the aoe tanking thing because its near impossible to aoe tank large packs now because of how much dps people are putting out)

As for no welfare epics the only way you can get epics pre-raid is blacksmith crafted and archaeology (sp?) no heroics drop epics its all blue from heroics even the emblem rewards from justice points are blue so you can't farm 5 mans for welfare epics

 

[Huntingtons]

Aye Tohtori the class changes have already happend they're just tuning the numbers now as for difficulty in Cataclysm it'll be a mix of Vanilla + TBC - aoe tanking instances is dead they said they want to break aoe tanking and bring back alot of cc'ing required things (they've stuck to their word thus far on the aoe tanking thing because its near impossible to aoe tank large packs now because of how much dps people are putting out)

As for no welfare epics the only way you can get epics pre-raid is blacksmith crafted and archaeology (sp?) no heroics drop epics its all blue from heroics even the emblem rewards from justice points are blue so you can't farm 5 mans for welfare epics

i guess thats one of the reasons wow works compared to daoc. In daoc they made it insanely hard, then nerfed it into cake-walk. WoW gets nerf the game into easymode then boots it to hardmode

 

[Amphrax]

I dont like WoW never have never will...

But that youtube vid was pretty impressive... i like

 

[BloodOmen]

i guess thats one of the reasons wow works compared to daoc. In daoc they made it insanely hard, then nerfed it into cake-walk. WoW gets nerf the game into easymode then boots it to hardmode

They're trying to find a perfect balance basicly trying to keep the hardcore raiders pleased along with the casuals and over the course of TBC/WOTLK they have failed at it either pleasing 1 or the other Cataclysm will be different they've really thought it through this time. It might not suit every single person out there but then again no game has ever done that in the history of gaming but it wont be far off, certainly closer than any other mmo has been to perfection.

That aside i'm really looking forward to it enjoying the new tanking on my paladin greatly its insanely fun (admittedly full 277-284 gear does help )

 

[Ctuchik]

Its taken them 6 years but warlock Doomguards and Infernals are finally useful.

No they aint, not really anyway.

Sure they are more readily available TO use, but useful they are not.

 

[Access Denied]

Just went to download the trial. 12 fucking gigs!!!! I was only going to play the trial till pay day when I get something else but fuck that! it'll take ages to download 12gb!

 

[Helme]

Didn't 4.0 add in the streaming gameplay stuff? I remember being able to start the game after downloading ~250mb and stream the rest when testing it out on the PTR.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Still, a PvE game.

Thx but no thx

 

[old.Tohtori]

Not really, pvp server = muchos fun.

Even regular server has enough pvp to last.

Sure there aren't no keeps to take over, but that was AS tedious in daoc as it's to capture WG in wow.

No wait, there IS a keep tot ake over afterall

 

[Raven]

Not really, its all scripted nonsense, even the PvP. Its a rush for a keep every so often (think its an hour?) The classes aren't designed for PvP, the game isn't designed for PvP.

If you want PvP then wait for guildwars 2 which sounds very good indeed, whether it lives up to how it sounds is another thing. Very few MMOs do these days.

I am sort of thinking that MMOs are pretty much dead for me now that they are mass market, there is very little challenge and the communities are full of kids using their mums CC for subs.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I am sort of thinking that MMOs are pretty much dead for me now that they are mass market, there is very little challenge and the communities are full of kids using their mums CC for subs.

Oh, you're one of those "now that it's mainstream it's crap" people, nevermind then

Not to mention the kid comment, classic. You seem to know as much about mmo community and wow pvp as the guy who drives the truck to deliver them.

EVERY mmo out there has the same principle pvp; rush to do x, win over these other guys.

GW2 will be no different. Sure you may like the bells attached to the pvp more then the other bells of other games, but it's the same shit.

 

[Shagrat]

those changes in the latest patch notes do look pretty full on.

wonder how itll all pan out.

 

[Calaen]

Up and coming changes to WAR pvp is where it's at!!