News i see the grave robbers are at it again

[Jimmy]

Wow after reading this my head hurts with all this pissing on grave and looking at dead people.

TBH as i cant be arsed to write what i think i will steal somebody elses comments.

Below sums sums up my feeling to it.

The only reason this is wrong is because these archeologist people inspired James Cameron and Celine Dion to create unthinkable abominations. I hold the White Star Lines company responsible for these crimes against music and cinema too - I have sent suitably strongly worded letters to their offices in London, but apparently they went bust in 2006, largely I suspect thanks to the above .

 

[Huntingtons]

Don't know who is claiming there are actual bodies there.

Anyway; ask yourself this. Would you be ok if the government dug up your dead granny/mother/whatnot and rummaged through her bones, then putting her burial dress on display?

I doubt it.

i wonder how this can be relevant withot assuming that there is bodies there

I'm not saying that i'm against it, just that it's no different from opening a grave and rummaging there. If you fiddle with dead bodies, you fiddle with dead bodies.

Concistency is the keyword here.

there is however degrees of the seriousness of it.
If you have sex with an infant i could just classify it as Sex with a human is still sex with a human. This parallel could be concieved as the infant is a recently deceased i dig up and rob, and somebody of legal age would be the body that has decomposed with a couple of gold rings and a pimpin pocket watch. in reality the "consistency" which you preach is irrelevant when theres different degrees of almost anything that can be done.

It's not about putting things on display though, it's about the rummaging to begin with.

And also pissing on a grave is no different from pissing on grass, if you're going with the whole "they're not rummaging through bodies" point of view.

no. If you piss on grass and there is a grave underneath there are certain degrees of it. Knowingly pissing on the grave is one thing, unknowingly pissing on a grave is another thing. Pissing on my mothers grave unknowingly id tell you shes buried there and ask you to stop it. Keep doing it and id probably swing at you. Would you stop if i asked you is what i wonder?

 

[old.Tohtori]

There can be degrees to it, but the baseline is constant.

I never said that i'm against people poking in ancient tombs or shipwrecks, just that if you rummage through a body, you rummage through a body.

The point there is that at sea, it seems to be a lost concept.

This is silly, since an arbitrary hole in the ground doesn't make a difference.

A grave is just a concept, pissing on it has no effect except in your head.

Someone going through some people stuff in titanic is, when all bullsh*t is taken out, worse then pissing on a grave.

Pissing on a grave is just pissing on grass, going through someone elses stuff and taking them is known as theft.

You asking if i'd stop pissing on your mothers grave after finding out she's buried there? Rather insulting to be honest.

 

[Huntingtons]

theft is just as much a concept as a grave. Both created by society


and by theft it is of course grave robbing im refering to, since its impossible to compare a grave to stealing.


the effect of grave robbing is the same as grave pissing.

 

[old.Tohtori]

theft is just as much a concept as a grave. Both created by society

Yup, can't argue that.

Owning sh*t is a concept in itself, so ofcourse theeft is too. But what they're doing in the titanic would be classed, with the terms we got, as such.

That sh*t down there belongs to someone, by family tree or not.

It's ofcourse not theft, but the definition fits

I wouldn't agree with grave pissing being the same as grave robbing, since grave pissing has no damage, while grave robbing is moving items. There's actual damage so to speak.

I think pissig on a grave might be beneficial even, it of nutrients for the grass

 

[Huntingtons]

yes the action is different but the effect is the same, who will miss the items. The deceased? dead wont matter. Relatives? they wouldnt benefit from them anyway, unless they planned to do abit of digging themselves. so their hurt is the same as somebody whos relatives grave got a quick wizzing



the question about you pissing on my mothers grave was more of a question to the actual value of a grave. If it was in fact just grass and dirt to you, why should you stop. It wouldnt be any different pissing on a tree in a public park (since graveyards are public)

 

[old.Tohtori]

yes the action is different but the effect is the same, who will miss the items. The deceased? dead wont matter. Relatives? they wouldnt benefit from them anyway, unless they planned to do abit of digging themselves. so their hurt is the same as somebody whos relatives grave got a quick wizzing

the question about you pissing on my mothers grave was more of a question to the actual value of a grave. If it was in fact just grass and dirt to you, why should you stop. It wouldnt be any different pissing on a tree in a public park (since graveyards are public)

If i was indifferent about you, it woiuldn't matter. If i hated you, continuing would be expected. Stopping when asked is just common courtesy, would ofcourse depend on how you asked.

If the effect is the same, then surely someone digging up items from the dead in the titanic, and pissing on their sea-grave(or memory perhaps?), are equally bad/good?

 

[Turamber]

I visited the exhibition yesterday. It was very tastefully done, gave you a glimpse of what it would like to have lived in the early 20th century and to have sailed on the Titanic.

I fail to see how anybody could be mortally offended by seeing the bell that was kept in the crows nest and rung when they saw the iceberg, or some of the plates from the dining room or some fella's sock.

Rather I think any decent minded person would come away feeling very sad indeed for all those poor people who lost their lives. They will come away wondering what happened to the survivors and they will probably question our own unshakable faith in technology, a faith which proved to be very much on shaky ground in the Titanic.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

No no, they were molesting and encouraging you to rape the corpses, don't lie to us.