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Kwidz

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i miss david hasselhoff :(


David Hasselhoff - Du.mp3:cheers:
 

Muylaetrix

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a step in the right direction to ballance sorcs...

Now nerf the casting time of the baseline lifetap ON ALL CLASSES to 3 secs and they are fine.

I miss my parrot.
 

RandomDotCom

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Muylaetrix said:
a step in the right direction to ballance sorcs...

Now nerf the casting time of the baseline lifetap ON ALL CLASSES to 3 secs and they are fine.

I miss my parrot.

don't you mean 2.6s cast time like normal baseline nukes ?
 

liloe

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Kwidz said:
i miss david hasselhoff :(


David Hasselhoff - Du.mp3:cheers:

Eurotriiiiiiip =))

RandomDotCom said:
don't you mean 2.6s cast time like normal baseline nukes ?

no, let me show you why.

the following are the non-effect baseline nukes

Magician baseline heat nuke:
50 - Aurora Blast - 2.6s casting time - 179 (heat)

Void baseline cold nuke:
47 - Major Ethereal Devastation - 2.6s casting time - 171 (cold)

Mystic baseline cold nuke:
50 - Obsidian Strike - 2.6s casting time - 179 (cold)

Runecarving baseline energy nuke:
48 - Rune of Destruction- 3.0s casting time - 176 (energy)

Elementalist baseline cold nuke
50 - Ice Blas (Major) - 2.6s casting time - 179 (cold)

Path of Fire baseline heat nuke
47 - Fiery Maelstrom (Major) - 2.6s casting time - 171 (heat)

As you can see, all have the same damage table for the delve. The only ppl here to whine are runemasters who have to wait 0.4s longer for their baseline nuke in RC , which rather sux a lot for them and has never been fixed.

Now let's look at some SPECLINE dd's. Specifically the DD+effect's as these are exactly like a lifetap. a DD with an added effect.

Sorcerer Telekinesis DD+snare
49 - Major Constricting Blast - 3.0s casting time - 179 (matter)

Theurgist Refrigeration DD+snare
50 - Arctic Blast - 3.0s casting time - 179 (cold)

Wizard Liquifaction DD+snare
50 - Entangling Haze (Potent) - 3.0s casting time - 179 (cold)

Wizard Liquifaction DD+debuff
47 - Searing Blast - 3.0s casting time - 171 (cold)

....blablabla...same for supp RM, mana eld, dmg table wise that is.

so we can see here, that DD+effect spells delve same as baseline spells AND have a 3.0s casting time.

Now baseline lifetaps not only have an added effect on them, but they share the dmg table of specline spells without the added casting time, no, they even get a bonus to casting speed.

First of all there should be no DD+effect spell in a baseline and even less at improved casting time. So Muylaetrix is definately right.
 

Muylaetrix

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hmm.

i find it hard to do better than the above poster without adding a lot more numbers.

in fact.. purely on statistics, it should be more like 3.2+ sec casting speed ;)

Nerf Baseline lifetap. (and baseline stun on hibs, caoe, warlocks)
 

WullieTheRed

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I miss those times when I would cut my knee and my mither would kiss it better.... lol, for the sake of fuck guys, deal with it! :D

Bob Dylan

"The battle outside, raging,
Will soon shake your windows and rattle your walls,
For the times they are a-changing."
 

RandomDotCom

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Muylaetrix said:
hmm.

i find it hard to do better than the above poster without adding a lot more numbers.

in fact.. purely on statistics, it should be more like 3.2+ sec casting speed ;)

Nerf Baseline lifetap. (and baseline stun on hibs, caoe, warlocks)

and healer 11s stun, and insta pbaoe disease on shammy, and perma endo buff, and 2k+ range on scouts, and 2.5 x level spec on infils, and 6s stun after taunt on alb crush spec ... the list goes on :p
but nice to see an alb say lifetap needs nerfing ... funky speed + high damage + leech effect + moc = not a good mix .. then you can add intercept effect on sm pet or albs perma charming stunning chickens or stunning cabby pets .... anyway, enough ramble :p well said liloe and mul ... /respect
 

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>> or albs perma charming stunning chickens

this got adjusted in this or the next patch... chance to stun should have been reduced significantly.

btw, mentas can charm these too.
 

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