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Invisibul

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To be honest, i'm amazed at the damage increase-

On this page is a BEFORE

And AFTER

Variables to note,

Before - a)NO relics
b) NO Heat LW
c) Not Fully stat capped

After - The opposite of the above :)

Damage increase is soo funny :D and i must say, consistent on most targets.

Gayner = RR3 SB (at time) Trixeh = RR3 NS (at time) if memory serves correct, so i soubt not much difference between the two.
http://invisibul.biz.ly/Comparison.html
 

Araudry

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u was unbuffed?;o
cause 200 dmg is low dmg on sb for slash infil ;p
 

Fayle

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21 rp for killing the sb?
Besides the sb was resistant to the dagger and the ns was vulnerable for the falchion.
 

haarewin

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i got pa'd (standing) on my bard by 1072, by you. and you didnt hit with your offhand.
 

Jeriraa

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I got one-shotted by a slashfil with my huntress once, pre-toa but in spellcrafted gear.

The thought of Dragonfang getting nerfed makes me shudder...
 

Moriath

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well on the sb you got a minus on resists .. im guessing the proc went off on the after shot as you have plus in the field .. so of course your gonna hit more the target was prob debuffed ...
 

inqy

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link doesn't work. but nothing new no doubt that every infil (not in denial) and sb knows already.
 

bigchief

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The difference in the styles can pretty much be accounted for by variance and a Heat LW. I can do a df for 200 then one straight after for 300. No debuff or crit either time. Note the difference in style damage too.
 

Invisibul

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inqy said:
link doesn't work. but nothing new no doubt that every infil (not in denial) and sb knows already.


ur IE is bugged to hell then, web page is fine, simple as, only got 2 pics on
 

Cylian

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bigchief said:
The difference in the styles can pretty much be accounted for by variance and a Heat LW. I can do a df for 200 then one straight after for 300. No debuff or crit either time. Note the difference in style damage too.

I'm happy when I break the 200mark while hitting with both weaps :eek6:
 

dimerian

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Uncovering soloshade when your with 2-3 mates and still getting your ass handed back to you,tsk tsk - obviously relics aint helping much when played by retard Invisibul :p
 

Succi

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Did that kinda dmg on low RR's fully hasted swinging at 1.5 with no relics , dont see what the fuss is about =]
 

Smurflord

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Cylian said:
I'm happy when I break the 200mark while hitting with both weaps :eek6:

Fully buffed I tend to hit about 150-250 main hand and about 30 offhand. Certainly nowhere near the damage in that pic. But maybe I hit faster.
 

kermylicious

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nerf assasin dmg and givf more AF so we can have longer fights ^^
i 2hit a few sb's with PA and imo thats lame... and not even fun, most assasin fights lasts about 10 secs (1on1) :/
 

Cylian

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kermylicious said:
nerf assasin dmg and givf more AF so we can have longer fights ^^
i 2hit a few sb's with PA and imo thats lame... and not even fun, most assasin fights lasts about 10 secs (1on1) :/

how about 'balancing' Mercfils the same way SZ were balanced ?

don't really see the difference ... just that infils deal the same damage SZ used to dish out pre-SC.
 

inqy

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link works now. magic heh ;)

As expected pretty much, I've seen infs doing more damage though. move along.
 

Puppet

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Cylian said:
how about 'balancing' Mercfils the same way SZ were balanced ?

don't really see the difference ... just that infils deal the same damage SZ used to dish out pre-SC.

Well not really yet.

Biggest problem is just that ASSASSINS all over the board are overpowered. 2.2x and 2.5x spec-points combined with the fact some spec-lines 35+11 is the same as 46 is just retarded (stealth, envenom, dualwield line).

If you wanna balance stuff a good begin would be to nerf assassins all over the board to 2.0x spec-points and the need to SPEC for envenoms. That would be a very good start imo
 

Musejedi

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My NS had 8% heat in that Screenie. Might help explain a few things. Did few runs pre SC and got to rr 2L9. rr3 came after I got SC'ed and my offhand is now a stinger.

Kinda stupid to run without heat resists I know, but eh. Got some rps while waiting for the crafters.
 

Jaem-

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Be nice with lower/same spec points across all assasins, would make you specialize in what you want to do, kinda like a SB currently, go critblade can't use 1hds, go la and lose out on pa dmg, most have low env too. but the spec point whine has been going for couple a years now right? don't see it being fixed anytime in the future, as their working as intended apparently.
 

Krakatau

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Invisibul said:
To be honest, i'm amazed at the damage increase-

On this page is a BEFORE

And AFTER

Variables to note,

Before - a)NO relics
b) NO Heat LW
c) Not Fully stat capped

After - The opposite of the above :)

Damage increase is soo funny :D and i must say, consistent on most targets.

Gayner = RR3 SB (at time) Trixeh = RR3 NS (at time) if memory serves correct, so i soubt not much difference between the two.
http://invisibul.biz.ly/Comparison.html

Well thx to your blabbing, it's not the same anymore :flame:
 

SoulFly

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Cylian said:
how about 'balancing' Mercfils the same way SZ were balanced ?

don't really see the difference ... just that infils deal the same damage SZ used to dish out pre-SC.

They don't dish out the same amount, not even close.
 

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