I hate Minstrels club

[old.Demerzel]

Anyone wanna join?uke: uke: uke: uke: uke: uke: uke: uke:

 

[Keri]

Not really ... I admit to being tired of being attacked by them, so I decided to make one to understand them better

 

[Sortbane]

nice, atlast a club worth joining

*fills out the membership form for IHMC and delivers it to Demerzel*

 

[SFXman]

Minstrels kick butt and are very welcome to join my group anytime

 

[krait]

Minstrels.................speeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!.....lurve em

 

[old.tRoG]

Skalds.................speeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!.....lurve em

 

[old.Baritone]

Seems im not very popular here:uhoh:

 

[old.HiredGoon]

Only thing about minstrels i dont like:


Charm:

If a minstrel solo's in a dungeon, he mess up an entire location for almost anyone, cuz of his "no-exp due to recently charm" mobs. Those are annoying


Mezz:

Sorcerer mezz ANY day, compared to minstrel mezz.
Only problem is, that minstrels rarely know, that sorcerers are indeed better mezzers, most of the time.


Other than that, Minstrels kick butt in a group, as long as i dont have to be the minstrel (matter of taste. i find it boring )

 

[old.Demerzel]

This club is for Hibs and Mids only..

Death to the minstrels!

 

[old.arneduck]

No comments....

(Well, ok some comments... We kick ass in groups, we kick ass solo, and best of all, we kick ass in RvR!! )

 

[old.Squan]

Don't want to go saying that it attracts the Nerf fairy.

 

[old.Odium]

 

[Keri]

Originally posted by SFXman
Minstrels kick butt and are very welcome to join my group anytime

Care to powerlevel me? .... j/k

 

[Aeiedil]

my 2 words

bloody minstrels

 

[old.tRoG]

Originally posted by Aeiedil
my 2 words

bloody minstrels

lol

it seems they have every trick in the book...

chain armour, evade, stealth, weapon training, pets, mes, stun, DDs etc. etc. the list goes on

if i join do i get a free badge and newsletter?

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by HiredGoon
Mezz:

Sorcerer mezz ANY day, compared to minstrel mezz.
Only problem is, that minstrels rarely know, that sorcerers are indeed better mezzers, most of the time.

Rubbish, our mez is almost as long and if it fouls up we can stun and have another go. Not to mention minstrels don't tend to get one-shotted if they get aggro... sorcs do

As for the club, I don't think I'll be joining

 

[old.Demerzel]

All members in "I hate minstrels club" will recive an lvl50 ranger specced in tracking and stealth, complete with one +40 "rape minstrel kit" and 4 refridger magnets!

 

[Danya]

Tracking and stealth? No bow spec? So this ranger is going to melee us down (with no weapon spec)? Er ok, think you might be asking for trouble there

 

[old.HiredGoon]

if sorc miss mezz, they get aggroed, yes.
sorcs get 1 shot if aggroed, yes.

my advice? Dont miss

its a matter of mind spec

 

[old.cutgrass]

Minstrels dont kick that much butt.

Heal Song sucks,
Speed Song spoils playing any other class
Stealth is pointless - we are the worst stealthers in the game
Swapping instruments around is a pain
Only 1 in a grp at a time
Mez takes 6 seconds - which in a dungeon is not very long
Mez is bugged - we dont know if it worked or not (no message)
Stun is bugged - we dont know if it worked or not (no message)
No high level armour
No high level +charisma items
No high level instruments
Our epics suck

etc

<keep that nerf bat AWAY from us>

 

[Aeiedil]

i say bat 'em hard

 

[old.Cordain]

I would cut my pinky and give away my regen song (useless in high levels anyway) to get a stealth. Really sucky stealth that fails when someone comes within 10m range would do.

Its true that I can beat an equal conning minstrel silly but I hardly ever find them and if they get to suprice me with that mez/stun the tables will turn.

I dont say you should nerf minstrels because they are a good class right now.

 

[old.tRoG]

but can someone please explain how stealth fits into the minstrel role?

surely the only classes that should have stealth are the rogues, the trackers, the assasins, the little blues guys with large bows (and so on and so forth ).

NOT some pansy little singer who dances around playing the lute

 

[old.Gorthol]

minstrels are rogues

 

[old.Odium]

They are rogues that learn magic/songs through the academy (where wizard's and sorc's train).

 

[old.cutgrass]

Decided to park my Minstrel until the battlegrounds are in, figured lvl 33 would be the ideal level to see how I fare against people above and below my level.

I started an alt to pass the time. Going back into the low level hunting grounds again I could not believe how many minstrels there are running around these days. They really are flavour of the month. So I say nerf em and put off the 'class of the month' players so people who like the challenge of playing a difficult class can enjoy minstrels without the fear of there being a zillion of em on the servers.

Either that or I'm sodding off to Prydwyn to start again.

 

[old.tRoG]

but in medevil times minstrels weren't 'stealthy'.

they just sat in the castle all day playing songs for the lord

get rid of stealth and i think minstrels would be more balanced.

just what i think though

 

[old.hidden]

i think just studded armour will keep the mins under control

they are only rogues after all

 

[old.Gorthol]

still rogues though

 

[Danya]

"Mez takes 6 seconds - which in a dungeon is not very long"
No, mez takes 3 secs (dex bonus doesn't shorten it though) to sing and lasts up to 58 seconds at high level (though lack of decent flutes gimps it).

"Mez is bugged - we dont know if it worked or not (no message)"
You get a resist message is it fails, if not it worked.

"Stun is bugged - we dont know if it worked or not (no message)"
See above.

"No high level armour"
af 98 minstrel chain is dropped in dartmoor, also af 98 chain is available with good bonuses from lyonesse.

"No high level +charisma items"
Bracers and rings from lyonesse, not much other than that though.

Taking stealth from a minstrel would make them skalds with gimped weapon skill and a bad interface, oo gee thanks. Maybe if they gimped skald damage by a factor of say 4 that'd be balanced, otherwise it would just gimp minstrels horribly.

As for minstrel stealth sucking, yes it's pretty bad vs other stealthers, but it's a lot better than the non-stealthers get.