Question Hypocritical ?

[Olgaline]

So the Muslim organisation OIC has published a copy of a
muhammed pic from a norwegian newspaper
"not one of the origional danish ones" and to frank it's far worse
and far more insulting than anything Jyllandsposten printed

Now this is the same organisation that wowes to prosecute any western media that would *cough* dare to print it....

picture in question

Spoiler

hypocits ?

 

[Kagato]

lol how can you prosecute a media organisation, western or otherwise, that choose to print a satirical cartoon?

We poke fun at government and religions every single day using cartoons in our daily newspapers.

Only differance is Christianity has developed a senser of humour over the years after all this piss taking, Islam hasn't yet.

 

[mooSe_]

I pretty much just ignore anything Muslim organisations say, as it usually makes no sense.

 

[Olgaline]

well, we've all wondered about that,
but the point ehre is more one of that
they actually Do the very thing they are
so strongly opposed to...


not that I'm at all suprised

 

[old.Tohtori]

If yuo're black, you can make fun of black people and use the n word, no problem.

If you're gay, you can make fun of gays, even use words like fag etc without any problems.

Same thing applies here i think.

 

[Lethul]

If yuo're black, you can make fun of black people and use the n word, no problem.

If you're gay, you can make fun of gays, even use words like fag etc without any problems.

Same thing applies here i think.

I'm white and straight and I make fun of gay noggers*

*may or may not be the correct spelling of the word

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm white and straight and I make fun of gay noggers*

*may or may not be the correct spelling of the word

Yes you can make fun ofcourse(not that i'm encouraging it), but you could get in trouble for it.

 

[Lethul]

Yes you can make fun ofcourse(not that i'm encouraging it), but you could get in trouble for it.

Not in a free country really!

Define trouble

 

[old.Tohtori]

Not in a free country really!

Define trouble

Ngh...you get the point, stop milking it.

But if you need some proof, throw around the n word and some fag derogatories around this forum and see.

 

[Calaen]

Ngh...you get the point, stop milking it.

But if you need some proof, throw around the n word and some fag derogatories around this forum and see.

See what? you pressing the report button

 

[Cerb]

If yuo're black, you can make fun of black people and use the n word, no problem.

If you're gay, you can make fun of gays, even use words like fag etc without any problems.

Same thing applies here i think.

I'm not 100% on this but isnt it against their religon and so they CANT do it?

 

[CorNokZ]

Yeah, just like Christians aren't supposed to draw or picture God...

 

[old.Tohtori]

See what? you pressing the report button

If someone starts throwing insults like that and going way over the line, yes i'll report it.

I'm not 100% on this but isnt it against their religon and so they CANT do it?

Their choice to do so.

Ofcourse it seems silly that they would do something they complain about others doing, but like i said, homosexuals and people of different race do ti all the time.

 

[Olgaline]

This is not the same as black slavery or the use of the word "n*gger
and no, according to thier own rules and religion it's not a question of choice..

 

[old.Tohtori]

This is not the same as black slavery or the use of the word "n*gger
and no, according to thier own rules and religion it's not a question of choice..

Nobody was talking about slavery.

Yes it is the same as the n word; if towards your own kind, you can freely do what the f*ck you want.

They have the right to change their rules.

 

[Olgaline]

not really no,

 

[tierk]

So the Muslim organisation OIC has published a copy of a
muhammed pic from a norwegian newspaper
"not one of the origional danish ones" and to frank it's far worse
and far more insulting than anything Jyllandsposten printed

Now this is the same organisation that wowes to prosecute any western media that would *cough* dare to print it....

picture in question

Spoiler

hypocits ?

I was not going to respond to this thread at all as it will all go downhill from here.

First off you make it very clear that the first pictures posted in 2005 were insulting and that these ones are even worse and more insulting. So we agree at least on that point. Can i ask why go out of your way to make something that you know will be highly sensitive to a large section of the entire worlds population? What purpose does it serve except to inflame an already irkesome set of circumstances?

Call them hypocrits for posting the same pictures themselves yet i think anyone with more than a single cell of matter between their ears can tell you that the intention behind them posting the pictures is probably not quite the same as the prick that drew it orginally.

 

[old.Tohtori]

not really no,

Well glad you're so clear about it, i guess i can answer everything you say with "Nu-uh" and it's considered a valid argument by you.

 

[Olgaline]

I was not going to respond to this thread at all as it will all go downhill from here.

First off you make it very clear that the first pictures posted in 2005 were insulting and that these ones are even worse and more insulting. So we agree at least on that point. Can i ask why go out of your way to make something that you know will be highly sensitive to a large section of the entire worlds population? What purpose does it serve except to inflame an already irkesome set of circumstances?

Call them hypocrits for posting the same pictures themselves yet i think anyone with more than a single cell of matter between their ears can tell you that the intention behind them posting the pictures is probably not quite the same as the prick that drew it orginally.

now then,
first of all, it wasnt one person but 12 people, "who where hired to do the job"
secondly, the goal was not to offend anyone, thirdly the
"prick" that your likely refering to is kurt vestergård, who's actually a very kind a gental man,
who wouldnt knowingly harm or insult anyone"

so get you bloody facts strait!

and yes this particular orginasations is very much hypocritical,
they've vowed to legaly prosicute anyone who would re-print these pictures
now not only do they do it them selves, but they also chose to use the most offensive
of pictures they could find, and to boot one that had nothing to do with the origional
Jyllandsposten artical.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Olga, is the picture posted in what context?

Because if i made a post about, say; "People using the n word are ignorant" and used the full n word, the context would be different then someone posting the n word in some fun making way.

 

[tierk]

now then, first of all, it wasnt one person but 12 people, "who where hired to do the job" secondly, the goal was not to offend anyone, thirdly the "prick" that your likely refering to is kurt vestergård, who's actually a very kind a gental man, who wouldnt knowingly harm or insult anyone"

Oh goodness me that makes all difference it was twelve people instead of 1. The intent was to make all Muslims jump up and down with joy? Obviously the prick i am refering to must also be a huge fucking idiot if he thought otherwise.

The rest of your post doesnt even merit an answer.

 

[Olgaline]

thank you for prooving that you jumped at something you dont have much of a clue about.

Yes 12 different profesional artist, with different backgrounds and styles,
where hired by an indipendant news paper, to draw a picture of muhammed.
one of those was a caracature artist. the reson behind the artical was to
test the true level of freedom of speach in denmark and denmark alone...

now some local clerics "who where already well known to have an anti western agenda"
picked up the story, added twist and facts and pictures that had nothing to do with the origional artical,
and apraoched some local religiouse authorities in the middle east and Egypt.


So, if your going to blame anyone for anything, blame the newspaper and it's editor.
not the artist, and definatly not the general danish public..

as for not merriting the rest of my post, well, I'm not suprised, as you dont really have much of an argument against it,
unless you willingly enter into blind religiose ignorance...Kurt Vestergaards "famouse" turban picture was one of these pictures,
wich was ment as an attack on fundamentalist that use religion as an excuse for violence
"yet still some people seem to just be so ignorant that they blindly refuse to aknowlage that fact"


I'm still suprised how little people actually know about what it was really all origionally about, and I'd urge anyone to at least make an effort,
instead of reading tabloids and listening to orginizsations and countries with religiouse and local national agendas...

a note to Toht,
thats just it, by there own claim...there is no cercumstance
where it's demmed acceptable to do so, thats why it's hypocritical.

Oh and dont make the mistake of thinking i liked what jyllandsposten did.
what I oppose to is hypocracy, lies and the blatant prosicution of an old peacefull man.

 

[Olgaline]

and 1 2 3

the picture disapears from the OIC's site..

 

[old.Tohtori]

a note to Toht,
thats just it, by there own claim...there is no cercumstance
where it's demmed acceptable to do so, thats why it's hypocritical.

But what was the context in which they posted said pictures?

Was it to say "these kind of pictures are wrong"?

 

[Olgaline]

it dosent matter toht, western media have been ridiculed and condemmed by this
very orginaization for similar actions and debates...dont you see the hipocracy in that ?


or are you that blinded by your own game of devils advocate...?
you keep replying to these kinds of post with little to no knowlage of the
issues at hand, it's honestly getting tiresome...

the whole point of this, is that, apparently, according to the quran,
it's forbidden to draw any visualization of muhammed, and it would seem these days print such.

now, entertain this,
had any western media re-published that norwegian picture "for any reason what so ever"
what do you think the reaction would have been ? how do think the OIC would have reacted ?
they would likely have demanded the editors head on a plate. "has they previousely have done.

if you cant see the Hypocracy in that, then I do feel sorry for you.
Personally I have alot of sympathy with the fact that alot of peacefull muslims
where offended by the cartoons, by I also dont belive it was ever the intension to insult to anyone.
Hell, the newpaper it self even said it was sorry it had offended so many people.
the only one who refused to appoligize was the danish goverment, "and rightly so"
as democratic goverments do not, and will not take responsibility for the actions of independant media.

 

[Olgaline]

on a side note though,
had it just been some random middle eastern media "and not this particular orginizsation"
that f.exp. had wanted to bring the subject to debate, then i wouldnt see any problem with it,

infact I'd have found it very brave to do so, but i dont condone double standarts.. no matter what the subject is,
you just cannot condem a something and then use it your self to serve your on adgenda. thats' hypocracy at it's finest.
I still dont see why anyone would want to choose that particular picture,
as opposed to the origional pictures, that one is ment to be degradign and spitefull.
and in my opinion in very bad taste indeed.

 

[old.Tohtori]

it dosent matter toht, western media have been ridiculed and condemmed by this
very orginaization for similar actions and debates...dont you see the hipocracy in that ?

or are you that blinded by your own game of devils advocate...?
you keep replying to these kinds of post with little to no knowlage of the
issues at hand, it's honestly getting tiresome...

Christ almighty...ofcourse it matters in what context it's in.

Everyone knows of this bloody issue, i asked you(since you don't provide links to your rants) for mroe info on the thing you're ranting about and you can't even answer it.

F*ck you and your tiresome arse.

 

[BloodOmen]

Cba with another religion row Chronicle will appear and shit on me from a great height so I will simply say:


All of Islam is Hypocritical.

 

[Wonk]

Christ almighty...ofcourse it matters in what context it's in.

Everyone knows of this bloody issue, i asked you(since you don't provide links to your rants) for mroe info on the thing you're ranting about and you can't even answer it.

F*ck you and your tiresome arse.

context my ass. The muslims took it out of context in the first place.

 

[Thorwyn]

All religions are hypocritical.

...fixed.