Hunting solo in hib/mid

TheBinarySurfer

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Hi, newish to rvr on pryd (but not new to rvr - did a helluva lot on excali). Any mids/albs care to tell me if it's worth hunting solo in hib around the hib front gate area or do they just not have the numbers on this server that they do on excali/or permemantly group?
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You mean at Druim Ligen?

If you enjoy getting easy realmpoints from people who are often AFK, running unstealthed to the next Hastener sure you will enjoy it.

But dont expect any respect from doing so. Camping Ligen <-> Ailinne <-> Bolg <-> Emain entrance is considered lame due to the fact you catch everyone with a big disadvantage.
 

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Puppet said:
You mean at Druim Ligen?

If you enjoy getting easy realmpoints from people who are often AFK, running unstealthed to the next Hastener sure you will enjoy it.

But dont expect any respect from doing so. Camping Ligen <-> Ailinne <-> Bolg <-> Emain entrance is considered lame due to the fact you catch everyone with a big disadvantage.
camping dl for ur ranger plz come out m8 :<
and qq more too ;o
 

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SoulFly said:
Lol puppet. such QQ of noxexistant stuff.
nonexistant?
it's a daily occurance - grey killing also another speciality, mid mob pull.

if that kind of stuff makes you feel big and stlong, keep on doing it guys - might be easy RPs, but it certainly is lame as puppet said.
 

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Dervis said:
nonexistant?
it's a daily occurance - grey killing also another speciality, mid mob pull.

if that kind of stuff makes you feel big and stlong, keep on doing it guys - might be easy RPs, but it certainly is lame as puppet said.
always fun to kill a fg hib xping at fins xD
but if u leave a healer alive or its evil then ;p
 

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Game dynamics allow it.

Whines cant stop it.

Who's pays your subs?
 

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Dervis said:
nonexistant?
it's a daily occurance - grey killing also another speciality, mid mob pull.

if that kind of stuff makes you feel big and stlong, keep on doing it guys - might be easy RPs, but it certainly is lame as puppet said.
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SoulFly said:
Q___________________________________Q

I kill on sight, everything, level 1 to 50.

Damn right, if you don't want to get grey ganked don't hunt in an RvR area. :touch:
 

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If you're afk you can't really complain if someone ganks you, not as if they know for certain. . Even if they know it tough TBH shouldn't go AFK in frontier if you don't want it to happen.

As for grey killing, nothing wrong with that either, again risk you take in frontiers. Though out of nominal politeness I don't xp kill greys if I can help it.
 

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Puppet said:
You mean at Druim Ligen?

If you enjoy getting easy realmpoints from people who are often AFK, running unstealthed to the next Hastener sure you will enjoy it.

But dont expect any respect from doing so. Camping Ligen <-> Ailinne <-> Bolg <-> Emain entrance is considered lame due to the fact you catch everyone with a big disadvantage.


ROFLOL !!!....when i use to play Hib (when game 1st came out)...Ligen was always camped by Mids/Albs...especially ppl like Blood..

how can u say ppl will get no respect for doing this or its lame?....its part of ur frontier...its an rvr zone

if you choose to run afk or unstealthed...then thats ur problem noone elses!
 

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Bunnytwo said:
If you're afk you can't really complain if someone ganks you, not as if they know for certain. . Even if they know it tough TBH shouldn't go AFK in frontier if you don't want it to happen.

As for grey killing, nothing wrong with that either, again risk you take in frontiers. Though out of nominal politeness I don't xp kill greys if I can help it.
not talking about frontier, had DF in mind in particular and lvl 20s being ganked mid pull buy a lvl 50 RR5+ stealther.
You get no RPs and only reason to kill em mid pull is for them to lose exp.
MY opinion (with which most will disagree ofc, and carry on flaming), is that kind of behaviour is lame.
Saying that, I have on occasions come across guys that would unstealth, /wave for a while and leave.

as i said - if killing a grey con enemy mid pull makes you feel warm and fuzzy and gives you a sense of achievement, go for it - i guess after wiping out a group of grey cons, you can screenie a death spam and show off to your 1337 mates.
I have no issues with people killing green cons ofc, or people being zerged in frontier. ANd to underline it for those thick ones out there - I dont even have a problem with killing grey cons, but killing grey cons mid pull is just simply nasty for no gain whatsoever.
 

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Dervis said:
as i said - if killing a grey con enemy mid pull makes you feel warm and fuzzy and gives you a sense of achievement, go for it - i guess after wiping out a group of grey cons, you can screenie a death spam and show off to your 1337 mates.
If crying over something that happened in game makes you feel warm and fuzzy and gives you a sense of achievement, go for it - I guess after crying a river you can swim on it and show your friends how l33t you are.

I dont kill grey cons but I dont mind getting killed even middle of pull or anything else. Sure, it might be lame but crying on forum because of it is probably the saddest thing you can do, imo.
 

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For me it's not about killing greys/greens and where, and how and for what reason, it's about being able to play a game within the bounderies of the game design without being called, lame, gay, bent, noob or whatever.


Out of all the whines and flames on these forums how many are because player A believes player B should play as they do? and how many are actually because people abuse the game?

What the hell is with that? :/
 

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NeonBlue said:
ROFLOL !!!....when i use to play Hib (when game 1st came out)...Ligen was always camped by Mids/Albs...especially ppl like Blood..

how can u say ppl will get no respect for doing this or its lame?....its part of ur frontier...its an rvr zone

if you choose to run afk or unstealthed...then thats ur problem noone elses!

Maybe you should roll a stealther in Hib and run 15 minutes to emain each time you die, getting ganked half the times or whatever, by lame ppl camping in the only route there is (considering you have to run from hastener to hastener etc.)

And then come back and tell anyone to run stealthed to emain, which btw is so much fun its obvious no one would afk while running, right?.... zzz it's lame, even Rambo of all people realized this, and it certainly deserves no respect.
 

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Saggy said:
If crying over something that happened in game makes you feel warm and fuzzy and gives you a sense of achievement, go for it - I guess after crying a river you can swim on it and show your friends how l33t you are.

I dont kill grey cons but I dont mind getting killed even middle of pull or anything else. Sure, it might be lame but crying on forum because of it is probably the saddest thing you can do, imo.

So you agree it's lame in another words?

I don't care if my alt gets ganked mid pull in frontier as I expect it to be honest. That doesnt mean that I should accept it as a heroic act of bravery as it isn't. If you have to resort to a mob aggro to help you kill a grey than that IS lame imho. And it is MY opinion.

I'm not crying about anything mate, it's a game and this is a discussion over aspects of this game. Just because we don't share the same opinion doesn't mean that I hate you or that I am infact crying over something - I am sadly a bit too old to cry over a game.

I just have no respect for the people that kill greys mid pull as it is simply nasty. You can wait for them to finish and then kill them - achieves the same thing without someone losing exp - they will lvl sooner or later and then go and do that to you etc etc and it's not neccessary.
Anyway, there is no point me posting anything further on this subject and getting drawn into a flame war over airing my opinion - right or wrong that is my opinion and in 2+ years I have seen nothing that will change it.

Just a reminder:
Puppet said: "But dont expect any respect from doing so."
and I only extended it to include grey mid-pull killers.
right or wrong you are allowed to do it, but will get no respect from community as a whole.

i thank you and enjoy the game ;)

derv

p.s. rather then just copying what I said with few word changes, put some effort into constructing an original answer. It can be a debate, not a childish flame war ;)
 

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I don't mind it for 3 reasons:

a) Hunting ligen campers gives u something to do while hanging about lfg.

b) Most stealthers camping tend to be solo or duo...which is a damn sight better than 90% of the zerg-pricks in emain.

c) If you need to go somewhere they mostly only kill u once cos rs afterwards anyhow (if you're not rs in the first place).

Mael, 50th ment.
 

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Can't say that I play for the respect of anyone and can't say I know anyone that when they make a kill go "Ah everyone will be talking about how uber I am now." Maybe some do, personally play for the fun of it.

Apart from the CoC only thing that regulates my actions is what I feel appropriate at the time. TBH apart from in game friends couldn't give a stuff what other people's opinions are, not that I'm going to go out to be generally unpleasant to people, but would find it rather lame that I should stop before every action and go "ohhh what will the community think of me, will they lose their respect?". I also find it rather lame that some people think they should be able to decide what other can and can't do beyond the CoC.

Again I don't go out to xp kill, but if someone wants to do it its upto them don't think any less of them, whether its to me or someone else. If I do it can't say as I would lose any sleep over it.
 

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Edlina said:
Maybe you should roll a stealther in Hib and run 15 minutes to emain each time you die, getting ganked half the times or whatever, by lame ppl camping in the only route there is (considering you have to run from hastener to hastener etc.)

And then come back and tell anyone to run stealthed to emain, which btw is so much fun its obvious no one would afk while running, right?.... zzz it's lame, even Rambo of all people realized this, and it certainly deserves no respect.

doesnt matter what class it is....i had a chanter when i played hib and use to go emain alot solo...so i had to make the same run...half the fun to me was...u would never know who u would meet on the way...sometimes u would meet noone...othertimes i would bump into Blood or other stealthers.

Sure i got killed...but i always just released and came back ...eventually i would kill em and get to emain

deserves no respect?...why coz they kill in a RvR zone?....just because some choose the option of camping...either Ligen, Sauvage, Svasud...doesnt mean they are a lesser person from the next.

Albs/Hibs camp Svasud sometimes...and get ppl who are on their way to Odins..or out xping...why shouldnt they be allowed too?....why should these ppl be considered "lame" or deserve no respect....they are not cheating...they are not bug abusing...they are only doing what the game intended....RvRing...in a RvR Zone!

Hell if ur crying now about it....would hate to have seen u...when back in the old days....Ligen use to be crawling with Mids/Albs...u could be xping out in gorge and suddenly get jumped by a load...but that was half the fun !
 

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:clap: Well said

Just like to add if didn't have people going to Sauvage Upplands etc then emain amg+mmg would be even more crowded than it it gets now.
 

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Dervis said:
So you agree it's lame in another words?
Yes and that's the reason I dont do it myself. That's not the point though, lame or not its still part of the game.
Dervis said:
I don't care if my alt gets ganked mid pull in frontier as I expect it to be honest. That doesnt mean that I should accept it as a heroic act of bravery as it isn't. If you have to resort to a mob aggro to help you kill a grey than that IS lame imho. And it is MY opinion.
Erm, I can show you 10 000 threads of crying over getting killed on RvR-zone for every single thread you can show me someone bragging for killing grey cons. It's not about heroic or bravery, its about playing the game as it is supposed to be played (see the enemy -> kill the enemy, the more the enemy suffers the better). Probably would be better if everyone starts to act like that so everyone would accept it and live with it.
Dervis said:
I'm not crying about anything mate, it's a game and this is a discussion over aspects of this game. Just because we don't share the same opinion doesn't mean that I hate you or that I am infact crying over something - I am sadly a bit too old to cry over a game.
I've zero tolerance for whining at gray ganking on forums, sorry about that :p The only thing we disagree on is that is crying over something that happened in game sad or not btw ;)
Dervis said:
I just have no respect for the people that kill greys mid pull as it is simply nasty. You can wait for them to finish and then kill them - achieves the same thing without someone losing exp - they will lvl sooner or later and then go and do that to you etc etc and it's not neccessary.
Anyway, there is no point me posting anything further on this subject and getting drawn into a flame war over airing my opinion - right or wrong that is my opinion and in 2+ years I have seen nothing that will change it.
I summed up my point in my previous post : Lame or not its still part of the game and lame or not it's not even half as sad as crying/whining over something that happened in game (in general, wasn't directly aimed at you). Anyway, I'm not looking for flame war, just said my opinion of the subject. I dont respect people for killing grey cons nor will they totally lose my respec if they decide to do it.
Dervis said:
p.s. rather then just copying what I said with few word changes, put some effort into constructing an original answer. It can be a debate, not a childish flame war ;)
Feel free to start flame war (if that isn't your aim why are you so rude? Oo), I'm not interested in joining it and lets face it, your post was fairly rude and insulting one, I countered it with similar and the more similar the more easier to understand...

... I hoped at least so lets try again :p

Grey ganking = lame.
Crying/whining over it = probably the saddest thing you can do in Daoc.
 

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Complaining aboute killing ppl that is afk runing, is just sad..

thats like saying dont kill unbuffed ppl, becouse they have a disadvantage... how the hell are you suposed to know if the person is afk or not, if your a stealther and he cant see you?

i dont run afk when runing to HW, becouse i might run into someone. it doesnt take loong to run to emain.. 5 mins or so from hastner to hastner..

if you dont like to be ganked while afk, port to odins or HW.
 

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Dervis said:
nonexistant?
it's a daily occurance - grey killing also another speciality, mid mob pull.

if that kind of stuff makes you feel big and stlong, keep on doing it guys - might be easy RPs, but it certainly is lame as puppet said.

greykilling feels like im kill ur children, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, nothing beats that feeling! expect to be pa'd when ur afk/unstealthed running on hastener speed to emain from a random sb!
 

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Guys, the man's an alb stealther who sez he wants to run *solo* ffs, give the man some credit.

Mael, 50th ment.
 

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NeonBlue said:
doesnt matter what class it is....i had a chanter when i played hib and use to go emain alot solo...so i had to make the same run...half the fun to me was...u would never know who u would meet on the way...sometimes u would meet noone...othertimes i would bump into Blood or other stealthers.

Chanters do not run from keep to keep since they got their own runspeed-buff. Thats for starters. And comparing an enchanter to for example an unstealthed nightshade is kinda silly. Your enchanter is as strong as it gets; while an unstealthed nightshade is easy RP for anyone with half a brain.

Nowadays with minstrels having 2 high-level DD-shouts, Forceful Zypher, insta stun I would be surprised if a mincer actually would take damage in fighting unstealthed nightshades while jumping em.
 

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Puppet said:
Chanters do not run from keep to keep since they got their own runspeed-buff. Thats for starters. And comparing an enchanter to for example an unstealthed nightshade is kinda silly


But not as silly as crying because u get jumped in a RvR zone...or u die because u chose to run unstealthed...or go afk
 

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SoulFly said:
Lol puppet. such QQ of noxexistant stuff.

haha so clueless. after porting to emain 90% of your time, didnt expect anything else though :)

or you played hib and enjoyed getting ganked enroute? will say sorry then, but obviously you didnt :)
 

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NeonBlue said:
But not as silly as crying because u get jumped in a RvR zone...or u die because u chose to run unstealthed...or go afk

he didnt cry, he said its lame. And it is, especially the stlong mincer + m8 duos poping insta stun pa /laugh-fadeaway combo while you are going to emain.

part of the game? yes
easy rp's? mostly yes
lame? it is, even rambo realised after playing an ns and dieing to tards camping route
go stealthed to emain? yea right, god bless croc ring stealthers can stick to an fg and campers can fo.
 

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some ppl should play hib stealthers tbh and understand their possition

And if u gonna say that hibs do the same in svasud/sauvage STFU cos all ppl know action is in emain not in HW/odin normally.
 

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