Hunter template?.!?

[ricky_latino]

Planning on going 50 spear nad 32 BC
the rest I dont know,
but how mutch more does the pet hit for with that last buff etc

and how mutch stealth do I need?
Should I go low stealth so I can detect asassins or?

Or is there a mix.. how mutch stealth do I need to hide from regular classes, and how big would my "cant hide" bubble be?

Help me please

 

[xajorkith]

All your answers are here :
http://www.critshot.com/

You might want to go pretty high in bow or you may as well roll a SB

 

[ricky_latino]

you dont need high bow to do dmg with bow... 30ish is enugh

hmm and thanks for the link, but I didnt get any wiser from any of those sites

 

[Gimly]

To my thinking you would atleast need 39 in bow and stealth.. with items you can get them to 50 (not inc realm ranks) which imo will be goodenough. You cant go above 50 in stealth (I know you can but it has no effect) which will mean the only people you have to worry about is Infs/NS with detect hidden. Not all of them seem to have it for some reason

Not sure what the new pets are like as I have not tried them out but from an Armsmans point of view they are not that great.. only hit for very low damage if they get past my shield

Spear on the other hand hurts bad.. so would think about trying to spec this high but leave Bow as your main damage dealer.

Hope that helps.

 

[Hatt]

ya bow is worthless agreed..

WHY DONT YOU MAKE A FREGGIN TANK THEN!?

 

[Hatt]

or a sb..

 

[guden_]

my spec is 44spear 36bow 34bc 37stealth. will respec when i made my new sc armor with +11stealth, and im prolly rr7 at that time so will go
46spear 37bow 34bc 33stealth.

 

[Zill]

Originally posted by Hatt
or a sb..

There's already to many SBs.

 

[old.Attle]

I just respecced to 44 Spear, 39 Bow, 34 BC, 34 Stealth from the all mighty 39 spear, bow, stealth, 35 BC. I havn't really tested it yet, but the 44 spear style is really good. Hard to get in, but the dmg output is impressive to say the least.

 

[xajorkith]

Originally posted by Gimly
an Armsmans point of view they are not that great.. only hit for very low damage if they get past my shield

If both the pet and hunter are in combat against a solo opponent, they should get a bonus to hit increase as it is 2 v 1?

If the pet does a little damage and the bonus to hit allows the Hunter to do a little damage more, this should be enough to sway it for him?

Seems to work that way in BG1… but as usual I could be totally wrong…

 

[The Exile]

My final spec
Bow: 40
Spear: 44
BC: 40
Stealth: 26

Works for me so far and as a dorf I can take a few hits too

 

[Giga]

my valkyn hunter is going for 50bow to get max dmg, 38 stealth so inf dont see me that good, 29 spear, to get the 3 times combo in spear, (Lancer/Stab/Raze), 32 BC to have some buffs, and i say dont take it high (just whot i think cost to much and dont give that much) i got the last instand pet to, donno whot lvl it will be

 

[Dubaxter1]

50 Bow

I dont Know how many times it has to be said in forums, but 50 bow is F****ing pointless m8, 1st of all try finding somone you can actually hit often solo without there being a crowd of peeps about, then take into account shields and pbt and reverse procs and shall i go on.

Then this target turns around and runs at u, u get your puny
29 spear out, the alb/hib goes <roflmao look at his needle hes got ouch he hit me for 50 damage out of his 3 swipes> ah hes dead no worries.

I have about 60 in bow at the moment with ra's and boy was I stupid, ive got my respec so I will do so at rr5 in a few mths time.

If I was you m8 I wouldnt listen to em but I would listen to all of the other posts and take them all into consideration, especially the vn boards where they can show u logs of the damage variance.

 

[Takhasis]

Currently spec'd as follows:

39 bow (+13 with Gear/RA)
39 spear (+13 with gear/RA)
34 BC (for avatar at 32 and good speed buff at 34)
34 stealth atm

i got 98 pts to spend and about to ding 50, so gonna have 198 pts to spend, still undecided as to go for 44 spear or lotsa stealth...

 

[Tranquil-]

Originally posted by Takhasis
Currently spec'd as follows:

39 bow (+13 with Gear/RA)
39 spear (+13 with gear/RA)
34 BC (for avatar at 32 and good speed buff at 34)
34 stealth atm

i got 98 pts to spend and about to ding 50, so gonna have 198 pts to spend, still undecided as to go for 44 spear or lotsa stealth...

Probably spear, RR5 = 49 stealth, RR6 = 50.

 

[old.anubis]

nah, dont spec in bow past 30, you're hunter after all
and then you will come here and whine about your dmg output, like those bms/mercs cry about their gimpness, but they forget that they dont spec past 44 in weapon (look at their boards) whereas all the zerks have 50/50
weaponskill IS the king, if you're ever pulling your bow make sure you have at least 40 base

 

[old.Sko]

bow is strangest of weapons. speccing it past 29 doest really do much.
As for mercs/bms - cry for gimpnedom comes from sucky styles in DW. Can you say that i easily outdamage warlock with garotte when he's hitting dual shadows - 275 and 220 pre resists imo. And i have only 44 CS not 50 DW like he. Yes garotte sucks endurance like mad and has large defensive penalty, but does it matter for hib mage - he certanly doesnt fight me with his stick. Most slash mercs use ama slash - same reason its much better style than dual shadows.

 

[Brevis]

My spec a while back was 50 bow, 39 spear and stealth, 16 bc
My dam cap was at 936 with a total of 50+13 bow, my spear have a nice punch at 39 so i kept that when i respecced.

My current spec is 44 bow, 39 spear, 36 stealth, 32 BC
This I did to get the pet and its worth it, but i dont want the higher buff spell at 33 for the pet, never use it anyway since I use my pet as tracker/interrupter, not dam dealer.
At 44+13 bow I cap at 915, so 21 more in dam cap for 285 spec points, not the best deal eh?
Also noted that when using the better buff's from BC I hit more consistant for higher dam ie closer to my cap and abit faster.
39 spear style is king, the gratefication from hitting your speed spell to chase down that stupid runner and stunning him for your grp to catch up and slaughter him, just beautiful.

 

[Spix]

Did a respec on gorre from 39 bow, 39 spear to 45 bow and 50 spear just to test before the 1.54 patch. I shot 3000 arrows on each spec against yellow con wyverns in raumarik and analyzed the log file and to my supprise the 39+14 bow compared to 45+14 bow did not differ much damage wize.
The only noticable difference was that I did 25 more damage when critshooting grey con mobs, so the cap on max damage is the only thing you will notice when going higher then 50 with bow and that damage is worth very little in rvr since a critshot gets neglated alot or if it hits it is good enough with 39+bonus to make enough damage to 2 shot casters/archers. 930 damage compared to 907 is nothing to get exited about.

I now have this spec: 34 bc, 39 bow, 34 stealth, 44 spear and it is my favorite of different spec I have tried.

The speed shout at 34 is realy useful chasing escaping enemies and stun them with the 39 back pos style with 44 followup or escaping infil zergs.
And you got the best pet. Pet buffs is rarely used from my side atleast since I mostly summon pet when getting attacked or attacking.
34 stealth + realm points and items is ok, you gain zero taking stealth past 50 with items anyway so you can live with mid 40 stealth until you get realm rank enough to cover it. I know lots of shadowblades that got less total stealth.
With 44 spear ,IP and Purge I got no problems with infils/ns even if they PA me and if I can shoot them first with TS active I dont need to use IP.

edit. Forgot the above statement with infil/ns is with the strength relics , so maybe not true always.

 

[Hatt]

Low Wpn Skill = ALot of misses

Nothing pisses me off like missing last shot with bow.

 

[shilak]

With my Valkryn Hunter im planning to go ...

39 Bow (reach 50 with +11 from items)
44 Spear (for that stun style and its followup)
34 Beastcraft (for last insta pet and the better speed insta)
34 Stealth (reach 50 at RR5 and +11 from items)

 

[xajorkith]

I would like to point out that only 14 Hunters are RR5 or above on Excalibur, some of the above posts, "seem" to imply RR5 comes a bit easier than it really does!

 

[marach]

I think that stealth over 36 is COMPLETELY useless.. and if ur planing on going to the higher rr's 34 is enough..

 

[Spix]

Originally posted by xajorkith
I would like to point out that only 14 Hunters are RR5 or above on Excalibur, some of the above posts, "seem" to imply RR5 comes a bit easier than it really does!

Reason for not many rr5+ hunters is many.

Many hunters got retired when see hidden got into the account and people realised hunters are no 100% greyganking class anymore, has been replaced by sbs.
Lots of hunters solo , and that is not fast rps but alot of fun.

I know a handful lvl 50 hunters that play regularly and are doing good, they all are rr5+ and what I know noone have 50 base bow

And why would you gimp yourself aiming for the spec you have in your early days in rvr instead of having a bit tougher time in the start and only get better with a reward for every rr you get other then realm skills.
Its realy not that huge difference having 45 total stealth and work your way with a bit higher risk to 50.
Its not like you cant kill anything before rr5 just because you have rr5 or better included in your template.
Most new chars can have rr2 or more before even getting out into the frontiers...

I guess its up to everyone to spec as they like, I just speak from own experience.