Huntah temp

[gillan]

Made a new temp for me hunter (for like the 35th time), getting more and more satisfied with it, what u think mates?

Using either Braggarts or Ml9 bow atm, not doing +bow skill on this, on the count me only having 35 points in bow spec. Also using spirit weap here, could go heat/cold and then u can put points from sleeves (cold resistance imbue) into whatever you like (like +bow or +resists). You can also change some +qui in template for +bow skill.

Statistics
STR:124/101
CON:83/81
DEX:102/97
QUI:81/82
Hits:212/200
AF:30/50

Resistances
Body: 16
Cold: 25+5 (Norse)
Heat: 10
Energy: 13
Matter: 14
Spirit: 14
Crush: 19+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 25

Skills
Stealth: 11
Composite Bow: 3 (6 with braggarts, 8 w/ Falcons talon)
Spear: 11

Bonuses
Archery Range: 3 (7 w/ braggarts)
Archery Speed: 5 (7 w/ braggats/falcon)
Style Damage: 4
Melee Damage: 4
Melee Combat Speed: 7

Chest (GoV(melee)):
Imbue: 22.0
Gem 1: 40 Hits
Gem 2: 18 Strength
Gem 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 4: 15 Dexterity
Gem 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 6: 4 Melee Damage
Gem 7: 4 Style Damage
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 22 Constitution
Gem 2: 5 Cold
Gem 3: 7 Slash
Gem 4: 11 Thrust
Utility: 60.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 9 Slash
Gem 2: 22 Quickness
Gem 3: 19 Dexterity
Gem 4: 4 Spear
Utility: 65.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 2 Stealth
Gem 2: 16 Constitution
Gem 3: 28 Quickness
Gem 4: 5 Spear
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Mariashas):
Imbue: 28.0
Gem 1: 3 Composite Bow
Gem 2: 3 Archery Speed
Gem 3: 4 Crush
Gem 4: 4 Slash
Gem 5: 4 Thrust
Gem 6: 3 Archery Range
Gem 7: 4 Heat
Gem 8: 4 Cold
Gem 9: 4 Energy
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 30.0

Feet (Soot tainted (studded)):
Imbue: 26.0
Gem 1: 21 Strength
Gem 2: 21 Constitution
Gem 3: 40 Hits
Gem 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 24.0

Two-Handed (Spirit weap):
Imbue: 33.0
Gem 1: 28 Strength
Gem 2: 8 Spirit
Gem 3: 8 Matter
Gem 4: 10 AF
Utility: 50.7
TOA Utility: 10.0

Neck (Beading Resist Stone):
Imbue: 45.0
Gem 1: 10 Body
Gem 2: 10 Crush
Gem 3: 10 Thrust
Gem 4: 10 Cold
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of mist (rogue)):
Imbue: 20.0
Gem 1: 3 Stealth
Gem 2: 15 Strength
Gem 3: 15 Quickness
Gem 4: 10 AF
Gem 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (Harpy Feather Charm):
Imbue: 31.0
Gem 1: 6 Body
Gem 2: 6 Cold
Gem 3: 6 Matter
Gem 4: 6 Heat
Gem 5: 44 Hits
Utility: 59.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (belt of brute):
Imbue: 32.0
Gem 1: 30 Strength
Gem 2: 18 Dexterity
Gem 3: 48 Hits
Gem 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 22.0

Left Ring (Ring of Dances):
Imbue: 26.0
Gem 1: 3 Stealth
Gem 2: 12 Strength
Gem 3: 12 Dexterity
Gem 4: 5 Crush
Gem 5: 5 Slash
Gem 6: 10 AF
Utility: 51.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Right Ring (Ring of the Heavens):
Imbue: 26.0
Gem 1: 24 Constitution
Gem 2: 6 Spirit
Gem 3: 40 Hits
Gem 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Left Wrist (Shaitan Wind Bracer):
Imbue: 23.5
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity
Gem 2: 9 Energy
Gem 3: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 4: 2 Archery Speed
Utility: 32.7
TOA Utility: 30.0

Right Wrist (Black Wrap):
Imbue: 24.0
Gem 1: 16 Dexterity
Gem 2: 16 Quickness
Gem 3: 3 Stealth
Gem 4: 2 All Melee
Gem 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 46.3
TOA Utility: 28.0

 

[gillan]

Oh btw, lack of winged helm is intentional!

 

[Guindor]

Judging by ur resists u r going for stealth fights only?And btw none from ur current bonuses r full .... neither melee or ranged so i am confused a bit if u r a melee hunter or range.
Ur stats tho r pretty good
And after all is my poor opinion only

 

[gillan]

Judging by ur resists u r going for stealth fights only?And btw none from ur current bonuses r full .... neither melee or ranged so i am confused a bit if u r a melee hunter or range.
Ur stats tho r pretty good
And after all is my poor opinion only

Allround template focusing abit more on melee tho, what I dont want to do is swing in the air 50% of the time with the spear. Trying to get the most weapskill I can so less evades/block. And yes 80%+ of the fights are against other stealthers (a hunter actually stand a chance pure melee against many of the assasins if they dont land an opening).

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Nice melee temp, but (my own opinion here) resists are more important, you also have to consider poisons, dots and procs of your foes, lowering your defence in favour of "one good hit" might not quite have the effect you want, and that temps not cheap, so changing down the line isnt going to be pleasant.

When I did my temp, i put in my weapon of choice as a fixed item (bow in my case) to calc around too, switching to spear (Cyclopean cloud skewer) drops little in stats (actally gives me 7 more dex). This way you include any stats that are on braggarts or whatever spear you go with (or sword...with high str you wont do bad with battler!).

 

[Dubaxter]

I have to be totally honest and say that it is terrible for a Melee hunter and that is what you are with 35 bow.

If you are going 35 bow and presumably 50 spear you need to focus purely on Melee, not a bit of bow and a bit of Archery. Stats wise fantastic but that is quite simply because of your resists being so poor.

If a stealther gets anywhere near you with heat weapons or belt of sun weapons and poisons you will go down like a sack of badgers. A melee hunter is ONLY viable if you are higher RR and about RR6-7 and have all the Realm abilities to back up your defense and perhaps your offense. If you are going Melee why NO winged Helm? you mention its intentional but why?

If I have misread your intentions and you are not going for a melee archer with 35 bow? What are you aiming for?

 

[Zexxeh]

Temp is ok. Ur main problem is u need to cap body resist and heat resists which are not capped.

 

[gillan]

Thanks for the input guys, will try and answer the questions you have.

I have to be totally honest and say that it is terrible for a Melee hunter and that is what you are with 35 bow.

If you are going 35 bow and presumably 50 spear you need to focus purely on Melee, not a bit of bow and a bit of Archery. Stats wise fantastic but that is quite simply because of your resists being so poor.

Yes I should really exchange Mariashas gloves for Scalars, will prolly do that in a later template to go pure melee, but other than that, there really isnt very much +archery in my template except for Shaitans Wind Bracer that has +2 archery speed, but on the other hand it has 10 dex cap so that good for my spear, right?

If a stealther gets anywhere near you with heat weapons or belt of sun weapons and poisons you will go down like a sack of badgers. A melee hunter is ONLY viable if you are higher RR and about RR6-7 and have all the Realm abilities to back up your defense and perhaps your offense. If you are going Melee why NO winged Helm? you mention its intentional but why?

Ok this is my impression of stealther warfare so far on excal (Volnaden being rr4L2, duoing/soloing most of the time), never seen an nmy using belt of sun weaps on me so far, have had two or three lowbie infs using heaters on me but they died anyways, but true, heat should be upped some just in case. Switching sume stones around, lowering con abit I can get heat to 19, and still keeping quickness it 75. By using heaters or cold weaps I cap heat of'c.

Melee hunter works on rr4, trust me on this, and I dont even have any ml's done.

Winged helm left out becuse I dont wanna be just another hunter in the row of hunters counting more on their equipment to rescue them in a tough situation. Either I go down fighting, or I leg it. Counting on by battler debuff to help me in sum cases. Another reason to not using it is couse of these dreaded arti timers, using SoM/haste/Battler charge is a pain imo.

 

[gillan]

When I did my temp, i put in my weapon of choice as a fixed item (bow in my case) to calc around too, switching to spear (Cyclopean cloud skewer) drops little in stats (actally gives me 7 more dex). This way you include any stats that are on braggarts or whatever spear you go with (or sword...with high str you wont do bad with battler!).

Currently im switching between 4 spears, spirit, heater, cold and the Cloud skewer. Changing my weapon depending on what class im facing and what weapon they are using.

 

[Dubaxter]

You are correct in that dex does help spear damage well 50% of it anyway 50% strength and also helps with bow which is pure 100% dex but what use is an extra 10 dex cap if you are eating dirt because your resists were quite low.

I personally have Battler/SOM/WingedHelm/GOLM/OglidarshBelt/Fools Bow/Braggarts (currently lost in action) etc

Then being rr6l8 I have MOP3, IP2, Purge2, Physical defense ?, AUG Str2 then others cant remember at work.

Sword is 50, bow is 35(perhaps laughable but it still hurts) doggy 32 for the extra damage in melee Stealth 49 currently soon to be 50 with items.

I use AF charges on cloth boots to get my AF up to around the 840 mark I believe with buffs and haste charges on cloth boots also.

Spirit 2h Sword, Heat 2h Sword, Cold 2h Sword

Think that covers it.

 

[Zexxeh]

why u need the AF charges since AF BC line is spec now?
Also hard to get 840 AF since the max with 75 AF charge lvl 31 BC is 755-760? :O

 

[gillan]

You are correct in that dex does help spear damage well 50% of it anyway 50% strength and also helps with bow which is pure 100% dex but what use is an extra 10 dex cap if you are eating dirt because your resists were quite low.

Ok lets look at the lower resists i have:

Body: 16
Ok sure its abit low, but really, do you need that 10%?
Take an example: if Infiltrator X is attacking someone with capped body resists, X is rr5 with Lifabane. With capped resist his LB will tick for 70 (+-5) and he has no viper. Now let him do the same on me with lower resists, his poson will now tick for 77 instead of 70. That aint a whole lot to me. Now there is a different matter with Minstrels DD, that will hurt a bit more but only like ~30 more damage per DD. I really dont worry about that a whole lot. What I do need to worry 'bout is the casters but then again, who doesent?

Heat: 10
Sure let the poor sob hit me with heat swords, but I will change my mainhand weap depending on what my nmy is using and all of the sudden I will have 10(from suit) +10 (from studded beeing heat resistant) +8 (from heat/cold weap), that makes it 28 heat resists.

Energy: 13
Not many Belt of Sunners out there, no real worry.

Spirit: 14
Really is my main concern, if I would change anything in my temp I prolly would like another extra 5-7 spirit resists, skipping some quickness.

 

[Xajorkith]

Energy: 13
Not many Belt of Sunners out there, no real worry.

I hope Albies and Hibs take this attitude

Why have RoD when you have SoM, would Ring of Seven Souls be better?
Have you considered using the Glacier Jewel (utility 76) instead of Harpy Feather Charm (utility 59)?


With my hunter I carry three spears (Heat, Energy and Thrust) and it's a pain to switch, especially if I get jumped on, adjusting spear probably means I will loose a fight....

(As you're worried about Spirit ) I use the following items on my hunter to get spirit resists, you've probably discounted all the items but hey
The Winged Helm (5%)
Belt of the Sun (5%)
Cloak of Ambuscade (6%)
Canalon's Ring of Might (4%)

 

[Xajorkith]

why u need the AF charges since AF BC line is spec now?
Also hard to get 840 AF since the max with 75 AF charge lvl 31 BC is 755-760? :O

A 75 AF charge with 25% buff enhanced will give 113 AF
A 31 BC line buff with 25% buff enhanced will give 92 AF, 21 AF less.

(A 41 BC line buff with 25% buff enhanced will give ~117 AF)

 

[Xajorkith]

Also hard to get 840 AF since the max with 75 AF charge lvl 31 BC is 755-760? :O

Bloody hell wish edit worked!

R5 Hunter Base AF = 606
75 AF Charge with 25% = 113
TOA AF increase (max) = 50
GoV AF proc = 50

Max AF for a hunter = 819

 

[gillan]

Why have RoD when you have SoM, would Ring of Seven Souls be better?

SoM for abl charge, RoD for SL.

Have you considered using the Glacier Jewel (utility 76) instead of Harpy Feather Charm (utility 59)?

Ahh awesome, finally some constructive critcism, took that gem swapped around some stones and et voila:

(changes only)
CON:80/81
QUI:75/82
Hits:168/200
Body: 22
Cold: 26+5
Heat: 15
Spirit: 23
Slash: 26+3

Arms:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 16 Quickness
Gem 2: 10 Constitution
Gem 3: 9 Spirit
Gem 4: 11 Thrust


Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 3 Slash
Gem 2: 11 Heat
Gem 3: 16 Dexterity
Gem 4: 5 Spear


Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 2 Stealth
Gem 2: 25 Constitution
Gem 3: 28 Quickness
Gem 4: 4 Spear

Thanks alot mate!

 

[Dubaxter]

btw my 840 AF should have read 740 AF :0 was a slight mistype.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Why dont you just roll an SB and have done with it, not trying to be sarcastic, but it seems to me you are swaying towards a pure melee character, whereas a hunters main weapon is a bow....

 

[gillan]

Why dont you just roll an SB and have done with it, not trying to be sarcastic, but it seems to me you are swaying towards a pure melee character, whereas a hunters main weapon is a bow....

Why dont I just roll another whorelock and wtfpwn everything?

 

[Zexxeh]

Lets see 31 BC AF is 50 value with stardrop thats what I use its 75 AF instead and I got 45 AF in temp so.......... imposible to get 840 AF. Make a hunter and test it before post or at least read well ur abilities....

 

[Zexxeh]

Last post is for xakorjith read ur last post dubaxtor.

 

[issabell]

skip marishas and use scalars 4 pwn melee imo!

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Why dont I just roll another whorelock and wtfpwn everything?

As I said in my post, I wasnt being sarcastic, so why the comeback?

A hunters main weapon is bow, its the design of the class, SBs on the other hand are pure melee, which your temp seems to aim for.

Next time you ask for advice, take what people offer.

 

[gillan]

As I said in my post, I wasnt being sarcastic, so why the comeback?

A hunters main weapon is bow, its the design of the class, SBs on the other hand are pure melee, which your temp seems to aim for.

Next time you ask for advice, take what people offer.

Mate I still do more damage with my bow compared to my spear, crits with the right arrows around 5-600 on normal targets, so yes I know my class. The reason for making it more towards melee is simple - i dont wanna be wtfpwned by infils, rangers and shades all the time. With this template, or the one im using atm I have atleast a chance killing them if they dont land an opening.
I played an SB up to rr6 (Niki), been there - done that, wanna do something a lil bit different this time around.
Bw the remark on warlocks wasent really meant as a comeback, mearly expressing my view on that sad and pathetic class. It wasent at all directed at you my friend.
Ohh I did take someones advice from this thread, I'm using the glacier jewel as Xajorkith suggested.

 

[thaaadi]

Config Report

Stats

Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 204
Con: 79 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 93 Cha: 0
Qui: 88 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 0 Crush: 24 (2)
Cold: 29 (5) Matter: 10 Thrust: 25
Heat: 23 Spirit: 13 Slash: 28 (3)

Skills

11 Stealth

2 Augmentation

11 Spear

Focus

Cap Increases

12 Qui

19 Dex

25 Str

5 Con

Other Bonuses

10 AF Bonus

9 Melee Damage Bonus

6 Style Damage Bonus

10 Melee Speed Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Name: battler hunter
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 16 Quickness
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 2 Spear
Effect 6: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 99 precious Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 25 Strength - 99 flawless Fiery Essence
Gem 3: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 12 Hits - 99 uncut Blood Essence
Utility: 59.33

Legs
Name: ml9bmlegs
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 19 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Spear
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 37.67

Hands
Name: madening scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Spear - 99 flawed Heated War Rune
Gem 2: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Utility: 70.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Strength
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades Of Mist
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: GEm of lost memories
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Constitution
Effect 2: 24 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Body Resist
Effect 4: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 2 Spear
Effect 6: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.67

Belt
Name: Dragon Sinue Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 27 Quickness
Effect 2: 48 Hits
Effect 3: 30 Constitution
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Right Ring
Name: Band of shadow
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 7 Body Resist
Effect 5: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Left Ring
Name: ring of heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Wrist
Name: blackened bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 2 Augmentation
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Quickness
Effect 5: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 94
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Made this for a friend, not sure if hunters can get golm-mele.
Maybe you can get some ideas from this.
Saw stats on wrap was wrong 2 aug ftw.

 

[Zexxeh]

very good one thaadi I think Ill take some of urs into mine ;D

 

[Dubaxter]

Yes you can get GOLM Melee for a hunter as that template is close to that of mine.