how much % blocking does dex add

[Kalidur]

Say MoBlocking 1 adds 2% chance to block, and 4 skill points in shield would also raise that 2% blocking.

how many points in dex would = to 2% blocking ?

 

[Ballard]

Pretty hard to test. I wouldnt have any idea exactly what the calculation is only my own prior experience.

I experimented with different dex and mastery of blocking setups on lamorak and I found for guarding in RvR on classic servers a saracen with 15 dex at creation, +101dex from template and augdex3 (370 ish dex) combined with mob4 and 50+11 shield was optimal. Single weapon foes will be severly hampered with lower than that but you really need a dex/mob setup like the above plus good slamming skills to hamper multiple DW'ers.

 

[Kalidur]

the question is in relation to a soul reaver, MoB just raising blocking, however Aug Dex raises, damage (1/2), Block, Parry (1/2).

Just wondeing how much dex raises in relation to blocking, and would i be better off going for aug dex 3 before MoB 3

reaver spec, 50 flex/sr, 23 shield, 20 parry, so raising dex would help in parry and blocking, was just wondering to what extent

 

[Righthandof]

afaik 10 dex = 1% chance.

 

[Kalidur]

afaik 10 dex = 1% chance.

thanks just what i was looking for

so would 10 dex + 10 quick give 1% to parry aswell ?

saying that would 20 dex in terms of parry be the same as 10 dex 10 quick ?

 

[Darzil]

I've not seen a very reliable guide to how much you gain from buffs on blocking. I've heard a suggestion that it's multiplicative with your spec, rather than additive, which would muddy the waters a little.

I did some testing, and the effects of +137 dex from buffs was about a 21% block bonus vs a level 47 mob, and 18% vs a level 51 mob (With 50+12 Shield)

Darzil

 

[Darzil]

thanks just what i was looking for

so would 10 dex + 10 quick give 1% to parry aswell ?

saying that would 20 dex in terms of parry be the same as 10 dex 10 quick ?

Parry is based on 100% dex, like Block. Evade is 50% dex, 50% qui.

Darzil

 

[Kalidur]

Parry is based on 100% dex, like Block. Evade is 50% dex, 50% qui.

Darzil

does dex raise parry similar to block, say for arguments sake if 10 dex did add 1% to block woud it also add 1% to parry, i.e. do they both raise on the same curve.




your tests were kinda on the lines of 6-7 dex per 1% in blocking, i think i'll go by that, thanks for the info

 

[Kalidur]

thanks darzil tried to rep ya but i cant rep ya again until i rep some other people

 

[Nobloc]

Afaik you gain 1% block per 6 dex from 60-300 dex. From 300-450 dex, you only gain 1% per +- 30 dex.
Iirc It's the same formula for parry.
Below 60 and above 450, dex has no impact on anything.
This is ofcourse also influenced by enemy weaponskill and dual wield.
Hope it helps.

 

[Nate]

is weaponskillincluded in a % to block? the weapon skill of an enemy would lower ur % to block? dunno how that works

 

[Bonelamencer]

You r wrong ,it's 1% per 6 dex up to 250 dex and 1% per 20 dex after.But it isn't good formula cos chance to block is based on ws of your attackers also.

 

[Bonelamencer]

is weaponskillincluded in a % to block? the weapon skill of an enemy would lower ur % to block? dunno how that works

no,you get a "hidden ws of shield" but dunno how to calculate it.Your normal ws doesn't affect chance to block afaik.

 

[Dr_Evil]

From the grab bag:

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/913.shtml

Quote:
Q: Hi, I'd like to ask a question about the way that dex affects block, parry, evade. Is the dex bonus to these skills "additive" or "multiplicative"?

Example: if it's additive, let's say that having 200 dex will add the same evade % to a player with evade I (5% base chance) and to a player with evade V(25% chance). Let's say 200 dex gives +X% evade, first player will end with 5+X% evade chance and second with 25+X% evade chance. Similar for parry and block.

If it's multiplicative, let's say that having 200 dex multiplies your base evade chance by X. So 1st player would end with 5*X chance to evade, and second player with 25*X% chance to evade.

A: I used the whole question because it was an excellent and clear description of the difference between additive and multiplicative. What a cool word. Anyhow, the answer is "it's multiplicative."

 

[Succi]

aye that sure clears things up

 

[Heta]

Parry is based on 100% dex, like Block. Evade is 50% dex, 50% qui.

Darzil

this about evade aint realy true

its not 50% dex 50% qui, its (dex+qui)/2 and that into a formula to get the answer (dont remember formula atm)

anyways!

its not 50/50

you should only need dex+qui=400 to cap evade if you are an assassin and got evade 7

 

[Righthandof]

this about evade aint realy true

its not 50% dex 50% qui, its (dex+qui)/2 and that into a formula to get the answer (dont remember formula atm)

50% dex 50% qui means (dex+qui)/2