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old.Akirai
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Youve seen what pbaoe can do for a realm, and how bad albion perform in defences etc, so now id like to know how many are respeccing to ice?
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bult
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gogo earth
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-yoda-
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i thnik a few wizzys will respec ice . but im sure most if they respec from fire will be for earth for the Gtae 
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K0nah
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Originally posted by -yoda-
i thnik a few wizzys will respec ice . but im sure most if they respec from fire will be for earth for the Gtae
just a small problem with pbaoe and albs - we dont get a 9 second stun.
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Sharp Thing
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the 9sec stun is hardly used to pbae someone... maybe when its 1vs1 yea, but not with a fg vs a fg
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Novamir
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? cleric? shield stun?
please explain how you dont have a 9 sec stun
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old.Wildfire
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50 fire, 18 earth, 9 ice
gives me: 50 fire, pretty self-explanatory, top bolt e.t.c.
lvl 18 earth : lowest GTAOE (regardless of damage, will reveal stealthers)
lvl 13 earth : lowest AE root (regardless of duration, will allow for emergency CC)
lvl 7 ice : lowest PBAOE (again, regardless of damage, will reveal stealthers)
Whats 9sec stun got to do with PBAOE btw? If you had protested about 9sec caster stun and any kind of ranged DD, you would have been on the right track, but to my knowledge 9 sec stun really is wasted if you're gonna PBAOE the guy.
gives me: 50 fire, pretty self-explanatory, top bolt e.t.c.
lvl 18 earth : lowest GTAOE (regardless of damage, will reveal stealthers)
lvl 13 earth : lowest AE root (regardless of duration, will allow for emergency CC)
lvl 7 ice : lowest PBAOE (again, regardless of damage, will reveal stealthers)
Whats 9sec stun got to do with PBAOE btw? If you had protested about 9sec caster stun and any kind of ranged DD, you would have been on the right track, but to my knowledge 9 sec stun really is wasted if you're gonna PBAOE the guy.
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Prob with ice pbae is that it's an ice pbae. Cold resist sooks. ALso the casting time is 3s and the animation sucks now :|
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old.Xanthian
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Eldritch pboae casting time is 3sec too...
And energy resist is becomming more common it seems.
And energy resist is becomming more common it seems.
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Qte Eth
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i feel all alb wiz stay fire and will whine after all chanters/elds will respec to mana and kill everything and albs wont go pb and just whine about insane damage hibs do and that stun wich is useless to pb
just the way albs are used to work
just the way albs are used to work
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It´s a bit hard tbh, without stun pb´s hard to execute (unless u got half decent team work).
Beside ice dmg REALLY SUX. All mana elds were ice dmg and changed to energy dmg after 1.50, ask them if they r happy, I know quite a lot that would die to use energy dmg (or matter heheh)
And once I read a thread about an ice wizzy using MOC on a troll, he pbed 3 times (usually enough to kill anything but full buffed heavy tank) doing 300ish (!) dmg each at melee range. After reading that (it´s possible with all those buffs up) I REALLY won´t do an ice wizzy 4 nothing on the earth
Earth´s an interesting spec... but w/o spec DD... and only a good single dot (due to it´s dmg type) as spec dmg (highest dmg in earth spec line beside the always-broken bolt) pretty sux.
IMO an ice wizzy will suffer a lot, and will not find even as much fun as a mana eld (best type to compare)
Beside ice dmg REALLY SUX. All mana elds were ice dmg and changed to energy dmg after 1.50, ask them if they r happy, I know quite a lot that would die to use energy dmg (or matter heheh)
And once I read a thread about an ice wizzy using MOC on a troll, he pbed 3 times (usually enough to kill anything but full buffed heavy tank) doing 300ish (!) dmg each at melee range. After reading that (it´s possible with all those buffs up) I REALLY won´t do an ice wizzy 4 nothing on the earth
Earth´s an interesting spec... but w/o spec DD... and only a good single dot (due to it´s dmg type) as spec dmg (highest dmg in earth spec line beside the always-broken bolt) pretty sux.
IMO an ice wizzy will suffer a lot, and will not find even as much fun as a mana eld (best type to compare)
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old.Wildfire
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fire wizzy casting time coming down 
burn baby burn
burn baby burn
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Qte Eth
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i dunno if icius is ice but today he killed 15 hibs in a row at crau so i think pb is always an option
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Originally posted by Novamir
? cleric? shield stun?
please explain how you dont have a 9 sec stun
example 1
icewiz: ok im gonna pbaoe on that celt there, ready?
pally/arms with 42 shield: yes, GOGOGO!
icewiz: rubs up....nuke nuke interupted, celt is attacking you!
icewiz has been killed by Celt!
icewiz: WRONG CELT DUMBASS!
example 2
icewiz: ok im gonna pbaoe on that celt there, ready?
cleric: yes, GOGOGO!
icewiz: runs up....nuke nuke nuke celt dead
armsman: WTF!? HEAL!??!?!?
armsman has been killed by lurikeen!
the difference is, hib pbaoe gets to choose, stun and nuke his own target, instead or relying on one of the 4 clerics in emain to stun the right person
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PKSilver_
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beginning of the onset of buffbots? 24% energy resist buff anyone?
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K0nah
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Originally posted by Novamir
? cleric? shield stun?
please explain how you dont have a 9 sec stun
our casters dont get a 9sec stun, dumbass.
which means:
a) they cant use dmg shield
b) the ppl they root can still cast/dd/shoot bows & interrupt
and last but not least..
c) when u nuke u break the root not 9seconds of free dmg.
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K0nah
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Originally posted by Qte Eth
whine about insane damage hibs do and that stun wich is useless to pb
frankly thats bullshit.
try standing next to someone and getting 3 pbaoes in when they're NOT stunned. and if u think its useless to pbaoe's perhaps u should watch Gobarnachta in action?
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old.Tzeentch
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konah please read.
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K0nah
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I've seen it used 100s of times in groups...? your point?
Or u just being "smart" ?
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old.Tzeentch
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That the pbae is point-blank-area-effect, whereas stun is single target.
You can stun one guy and pbae, ok, fine.
But on 4 or more people?
You can stun one guy and pbae, ok, fine.
But on 4 or more people?
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old.XanateA
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NP got a few tricks up our sleeve for 1.52 :]
pbaoe + ae stun is yesthx -_-;;
pbaoe + ae stun is yesthx -_-;;
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PBaoe on grps
I have been in a grp of 6 tanks standing around Gobarnachta
we were all trying to hit him, i think i managed to get 1 hit on him
still he carried on casting, 6 tanks dead, and there is no way it is
3secs between casts.
Think i would rather solo a red con witherwood than Gobarnachta
atleast i stand a chance with the tree
I have been in a grp of 6 tanks standing around Gobarnachta
we were all trying to hit him, i think i managed to get 1 hit on him
still he carried on casting, 6 tanks dead, and there is no way it is
3secs between casts.
Think i would rather solo a red con witherwood than Gobarnachta
atleast i stand a chance with the tree
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old.Odysseus
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I hate insta cc (mostly cuz i dont have any).
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old.Tzeentch
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Mastery of Concentration... as to why you couldn't land a hit on him, no idea on that.
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old.Ailelun
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All of them hopefully
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PBT ?
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old.Akirai
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i ask a question, and it gets hijacked by flamers without an answer from the wizards lol
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nah
With improved/lowered cast time on fire dds in both baseline and spec line in upcoming 1.52 (and of course fixed earth line), ice looks the most dodgy spec to choose.
PBAOE is nifty but still...
I'm sticking with 50f 18e 9c, you said it WF
Wizzies finally take the throne as king of damage
With improved/lowered cast time on fire dds in both baseline and spec line in upcoming 1.52 (and of course fixed earth line), ice looks the most dodgy spec to choose.
PBAOE is nifty but still...
I'm sticking with 50f 18e 9c, you said it WF
Wizzies finally take the throne as king of damage
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Sticking with earth
For any fireys thinking of moving to earth... think long and hard about it
you lose your spec DD, no more nuking for 450 450 450 (well minus resists... )
lots of nice utility, but a lot less damage.
For any fireys thinking of moving to earth... think long and hard about it
you lose your spec DD, no more nuking for 450 450 450 (well minus resists... )
lots of nice utility, but a lot less damage.
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Sticking to my original plan of 48earth - 7ice (basic PBAoE to find stealthers) and rest in fire to get the DD as powerfull as i can.
Reasons..Like the idea of gtaoe and dots, heard that matter resists are hardest to get and there are lots of fire wizzes doing a good job already i dont wanna start giving them a bad name
I also intend to do my bit in defending OUR frontier instead of porting to Emain when we have lost all our keeps..I think the earth spec wiz will be the best of the casters for keep defence.
I think that answers your question mate and not a flame in sight
Reasons..Like the idea of gtaoe and dots, heard that matter resists are hardest to get and there are lots of fire wizzes doing a good job already i dont wanna start giving them a bad name
I also intend to do my bit in defending OUR frontier instead of porting to Emain when we have lost all our keeps..I think the earth spec wiz will be the best of the casters for keep defence.
I think that answers your question mate and not a flame in sight