How many clerics will "leave" after nerf?

[geniusdaoc]

I'm not gonna leave,
i'm only gonna play my minstrel and scout more...
and i'm gonna play pvp when it comes (thinking of a paladin)

Greetings

 

[kedalin]

i do think i will leave cause i dont like rejuvenation clerics-its boring!
i might not leave, but i am sure i will delete kedalin and play my infy or wiz!

 

[Delket]

Will just move to my Cabby

And Jarade, you are a typical stereotypical troll
Pople like you annoy me beacuse you expect everyone else should have to play their character the exact way you want them to!

 

[wyleia]

They are nerfing the smite line...... forgive me if im wrong but smite isnt suppose to do as much dmg as a wizzie nuke.. which apparentrly the top of the line spec did? A 43 second best smiter almost outdamages me with my 2nd best body nuke as a sorc (and they do outdmg me on undead)...
but 1vs1 clerics will still rule.... i always thought from watching ppl play that smite is what gives the cleric the edge to win the fight for an out and out bashing battle. Smite once or twice on incoming, bash with mace... mezz the farker.. back up heal... smite, stun, smite smite til he reaches u again and bash away again with 2 instas still available (group and targetted)pbdmging whenever possible... the smites i thought were just to do that extra bit of dmg to bring him into manageable dmg add mace bashing.. maybe do a bit of sprinting to run the person out of end.. with a caster just use a faster hammer eh? one of those little fast merc hammer thingies. Even with a lower dmg smite it will still gve you that edge in 1vs1 that u need to win if you have all abilities available to you at the time...

Just my 2 copper... but then again im a sorc (the class people SHOULD talk about that is being nerfed 3pt tank purge bah.. hello tasty dirt if i dont get that qc root off quick)....

Wyleia Mythweaver
50th Sorc of The 30
http://www.the30.org.uk

 

[scunn]

Your point is a good one but a) pbae mess is now on 5 min timer so teh ability to mess and stun is gone as pbae mess on 1 vs 1 often takes a few attempts to mess em. U cant stun while in combat so other than the initial few stuns uve got the cleric will find it hard in 1 vs 1.

b) Yes clerics have two instants but then almost all sbs now have IP as seen as a cleric is not a meele character it would take another two cleric instants for a cleric to reasonable stand a chance.

The pbae mess is what allowed a cleric the advantage in 1 vs 1 and that has been nerfed. Before Ra's the cleric also had the advantage of hit points two with the two instants but this has been eliminated almost now as well.

It is moving to what they want and thats all chars grping and way to earn rlm pts through grping i just think its an awful shame they are almost ruining what was a fantastically flexible and fun class.

Yeah nerfing albs one mess class sucks a bit not enough sorc as it is. (hugs amirder).

 

[Jenkz]

Originally posted by Jenkz
im already specced for 1.52.

43smite 25rejuv 20enhance.

i'll be staying that spec i guess as my playstyle wont change dramatically from what it already is.

ah well, i stayed that spec for around 4 hours yesterday.

the 43 smite nuke is no better than the 35 one i had before patch. since i rarely have smited massivley in RvR over the past month or so, having 43 smite meant i wasnt that effective in my group.

i /respecced last night to 40 enhance/36 rejuv/4 smite.

miss out on the top buffs, but gain a LOT of very good heals
miss out on the top res, but 50%hp/25% power res is not much of a problem with MCL for most people.

very very happy with my new spec, makes a HUGE difference to groups with buffs and heals, and i can still play a stun cleric with 100 damage nukes!!

 

[Akuma-San]

Originally posted by Jenkz

i /respecced last night to 40 enhance/36 rejuv/4 smite.

miss out on the top buffs, but gain a LOT of very good heals
miss out on the top res, but 50%hp/25% power res is not much of a problem with MCL for most people.

\o/ glad im not the only cleric who respecced 40 enh 36 rejuv 4 smite

Gotta luv the superhuman buffage, althou only the 2nd best ones

 

[old.linnet]

Originally posted by Turamber


Also seems a *bit* strange rolling a group character then wanting to solo.

I don't see how it is strange to want the flexibility to group when you want, or solo when you feel like it.

But then, I'm a minstrel

 

[old.Vae]

Jenkz I did some testing before and after patch with my 43S/24R/21E template and found a 15% drop in base smite damage but an increase of 8% in spec due to having the new lvl 43 spell. So I was gimped before patch and now am merely nerfed.

Anyway I'm not so concerned about the damage nerf as I am about the mes nerf. That is a LOT more serious.

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37693

 

[Jenkz]

Originally posted by old.Vae
Jenkz I did some testing before and after patch with my 43S/24R/21E template and found a 15% drop in base smite damage but an increase of 8% in spec due to having the new lvl 43 spell. So I was gimped before patch and now am merely nerfed.

yep vae.

i was quite happy with the new 43 smite nuke, small improvement from the old 35 spec one, but it wasnt good enough (taking into account the 5min mez nerf) to warrent having 43 levels in that line for me anymore

 

[Krillin.]

I'm nerfed and thats that, i am an old style smiter with smite 48 / rejuv 23 and enhance 9 and have been for months and this nerf has hit people with my template worst. Alot of my friends have been out and bought a second account and respecced to enhance. Go figure what there going to be doing?

I tried smite yesterday and it got resisted alot yesterday and only hitting for 250 ish, BUT the mez timer blows as it leaves me very little protection now. As far as i'm concerned my cleric isn't my cleric anymore.

I can't do anything about it but its a sad end to the smite cleric.

 

[hangianix]

With my 44/27/15 template i was useless in RvR yesterday. I know that spirit resist is the same like before 1.52 but i got much more resist than ever before. Not around 25-30%, rather 50-60%. I could hit 250 (-84) in a yellow and 333 (-46) in blue. Sigh, at least i still can make some decent armor for my scout.


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Killerbee lvl 50 Cleric
8XX Armorcrafter
<Carnificis Ministerium>

"[Party] Hitokiri "but if u come here ill ave to pass down my medal of crazyness to u"

I'm still waiting Hito...

 

[Thorgald]

U guys ever thought about the fact that a cleric is a healer and not a caster?? if u want to do damage roll a fire wizz.. sure it sux that the pbmez is on a 5 min timer but the smite nukes was way to good for a healing class.. just compare to mid healers, sure they got nice CC spells but cant kill ANYTHING if it hits back in rvr.. and with the purge being a low pnt ability now for tank classes they pretty much suck now to.. but hey.. atleast smite clerics still do some damage with their smite.. sure u wont be able to kill a tank solo (that was not the idea in the first place) but ur still doing decent damage saw someone say he "only" smited for 250ish...

only 250ish... this guy thinks hes a wizz or what??

 

[hangianix]

You see it from the wrong side. Compare the effectivness of the healer in a grp nd a smiter in a grp.


And from those 250ish dmg. We need to do this dmg 4 sec, not 2 - so count it as 125ish...
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Killerbee lvl 50 Cleric
8XX Armorcrafter
<Carnificis Ministerium>

"[Party] Hitokiri "but if u come here ill ave to pass down my medal of crazyness to u"

I'm still waiting Hito...

 

[vayasen]

I dont mind so much that the smite damage has been lessened.

What I DO mind is that a cleric now has NO...repeat NO way to defend himslef when under attack. He must simply run around calling for help.

That aint fun guys.

that isnt the character I rolled.


A cleric was a mix of THREE makeups. He wasnt necesserilly a healer at all. Its all there on the char creation..and the char info texts. A cleric could be a perons who devoted his time to destroying his enemies.

So the peopel who say the cleric was designed initially as a healer only....please...stop it....its frustrating.

As a smite cleric....(pre patch)....I woudl happily smite away...BUT..I would ALWAYS try healing if it was called for.

Now im just a free target on a battlefield. If a troll attacks me...there isnt a trick in the game I can really pull off to defeat him. Simply cant be done. I run i shout for help...it might come...it might not. But all that time spent running is time where no1 gets healed thats for sure.


I dont mind a nerf to smiters.

I do mind it being turned into a class that CANNOT do a thing about it if they are attacked.


cheers