How is it possible?

[Turamber]

Originally posted by Cadire
It's NOT 'ok' for any realm to exploit bugs, and the sooner people realise this the better.

As LeStat posts the LoS issue is -not- a bug, it is the way it was intended to work. So all that posting moaning comments does is make people look silly.

1.6 isn't far away and it will be a thing of the past, live with it. Not as if we have that many necros anyway ... try playing the class like I have, bloody awkward to use and bugged to hell like the rest of the pet classes.

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
True but some necros really are taking the piss,yeah i am an alb but it is happening and many see it and deny it lol,i even had pms from other albs saying that they found it disgraceful,even a few from my guild.Oh well mids and hibs it happens not much others can do really,hope you kill them and teach them a lesson ^^

Thank you

 

[SilverHood]

it is the way it was intended to work

thats why they're changing it, right?

 

[asgoden]

Silver hood think you should do some reserch before making accusations against Phoenix Legion.

We had two necros there and i was the only full deathsight necro, my pet is always placed in a position where he can be hit with AOE spells, try getting a shaman to cast DOT on the people standing on the battlements, pet cant cast when it has a DOT ticking away on it.

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by SilverHood
thats why they're changing it, right?

If you believe it is bug abuse then, please, I invite you to contact RightNow and get them banned.


But you won't, because you also know it's not bug abuse





Mythic's conception of the game has changed a great deal during its development. Personally I'm pleased that LoS will be 'fixed', even if it does mean that necros will be useless.

I mean - how difficult is it for a caster to target a mob anyway? Sometimes in dungeons I am facing the mob and get 'not in sight' errors!! So imagine the pure horror of trying to get LoS for the pet and the necro....

So next time 1 necro soloes your relic raid force think of that before you log and put the dollies away...

 

[j000 d000d]

Oh please

tell me

If you were a necro now

How would you defend a keep?

Bring your pet to the edge of the wall so it can get killed and start nuking

Or just hit the nuke button

?

Basically

--> How is it possible to NOT abuse LoS in a keepdefence as a necro ?

 

[SilverHood]

Quoted from patch notes at the herald

LINE OF SIGHT FIXES

- Necromancers now must be visible to their controlled creatures to perform "pet cast" spells. This fixes the exploit where Necromancers could park their pets in keep towers and wander around outside, and have their pets cast at the Necromancer's target.

 

[Turamber]

Then I suggest people report these people to RightNow and the powers that be can make their mind up about this subject. At least it would stop all the bloody moaning

 

[old.Katie]

Well said teador...

 

[old.Katie]

uke:

 

[mannschaft]

ROFL on your arguments. "It can be done, so i will do it."

Gimme a break....pathetic from Nazz and Teador, 2 major abusers.

 

[coffee]

I was at Nottmoor and to come here and flame necros for bug abuse is pretty funny, considering the amount of shadowblades there who were using the PA somone on the battlements from the floor exploit.

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by mannschaft
ROFL on your arguments. "It can be done, so i will do it."

Gimme a break....pathetic from Nazz and Teador, 2 major abusers.

Then tell me the answer to this question

--> How does a necro defend a keep without "exploiting" LoS? And would you really do it like that if you had a lvl 50 Necro right now?

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by Teador
Oh please

tell me

If you were a necro now

How would you defend a keep?

Bring your pet to the edge of the wall so it can get killed and start nuking

Or just hit the nuke button

?

Basically

--> How is it possible to NOT abuse LoS in a keepdefence as a necro ?

Have pet on Battlements?

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by coffee
I was at Nottmoor and to come here and flame necros for bug abuse is pretty funny, considering the amount of shadowblades there who were using the PA somone on the battlements from the floor exploit.

That's not possible.

 

[Zerg-Proof]

Originally posted by Teador
Oh please

tell me

If you were a necro now

How would you defend a keep?

Bring your pet to the edge of the wall so it can get killed and start nuking

Or just hit the nuke button

?

Basically

--> How is it possible to NOT abuse LoS in a keepdefence as a necro ?

How about not going outside to target while pet stays inside keep? Not that hard to do now is it? The way some necro's are doing it now is nothing but big ass lame imho. Ok, Mythic maybe claimed THEY don't regard it as bug-abuse, but seen the fact that it is changed in next patch (where they call it an exploit), they only said this to avoid all the appeals about abusing it. It's deliberately exploiting a game-mechanic, which is nothing else but plain cheating.uke:

 

[mannschaft]

Originally posted by Teador
Then tell me the answer to this question

--> How does a necro defend a keep without "exploiting" LoS? And would you really do it like that if you had a lvl 50 Necro right now?

How? By abiding to the rules of course. How does a Warrior or a Hero or a Blademaster for example defend a keep? By waiting, defending casters and healers from pestering pets, infs and so on. Why on earth should a necro be different? Your pet (chanters) is irritating enough, but it can be killed. When is this issue penetrate your feeble minds: A necro is unkillable when they exploit it in this detestable manner.

Yes, i am upset with it, and i have a right to be. And never in a lifetime would i choose a caster, melee for ever.

Is this answer enough?

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by Artemls
Have pet on Battlements?

And how are you sure your pet has LoS then ?

You don't know, its only like "hmmmm i think he has LoS know"

I think it's actually tough to NOT abuse LoS with a pet, as i don't exactly know if the pet has LoS or not on the target.

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by Zerg-Proof
How about not going outside to target while pet stays inside keep? Not that hard to do now is it? The way some necro's are doing it now is nothing but big ass lame imho. Ok, Mythic maybe claimed THEY don't regard it as bug-abuse, but seen the fact that it is changed in next patch (where they call it an exploit), they only said this to avoid all the appeals about abusing it. It's deliberately exploiting a game-mechanic, which is nothing else but plain cheating.uke:

Seriously, what would you do?

1. Go outside and your pet is ganked in 1 sec and you 1 sec after.

2. Stay inside, select someone, and hit the nuke button.

?

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by mannschaft
How? By abiding to the rules of course. How does a Warrior or a Hero or a Blademaster for example defend a keep? By waiting, defending casters and healers from pestering pets, infs and so on. Why on earth should a necro be different? Your pet (chanters) is irritating enough, but it can be killed. When is this issue penetrate your feeble minds: A necro is unkillable when they exploit it in this detestable manner.

Yes, i am upset with it, and i have a right to be. And never in a lifetime would i choose a caster, melee for ever.

Is this answer enough?

So basically,

A Wizard has to go to the edge of the battlements, get LoS, and nuke.

A Necromancer has to check if his pet has LoS, and is so-called "playing fair" and nuke. And if the pet didn't have LoS by 1cm he's a cheater.

That's idiot, isn't it?

Why would someone have to pay attention that he/she is not abusing a bug which isn't really "abused" but rather "used". "Abusing" is just intentionally using something which you normally wouldn't do, like the screenshot-jump or the logging-jump (which are now fixed), but hitting your nuke button isn't really abuse, is it?

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by Teador
And how are you sure your pet has LoS then ?

You don't know, its only like "hmmmm i think he has LoS know"

I think it's actually tough to NOT abuse LoS with a pet, as i don't exactly know if the pet has LoS or not on the target.

Isn't it more possible for pet to have LOS on battlements then entrence to Lord Tower?

 

[old.mattshanes]

I know it's not suppose to happen and some have done it by mistake,but when you get people who brag about them making rps with having pets in places where no one can kill them it pisses you off when you respected the player before now you see them as a different person.

I have seen necros put pets in stupid places where it's impossible to kill them,this is total unfair play and no sympathy towards any enemies,as i said it may not be the players fault but people who brag about it we know they do it on purpose.

I also like it when people say it's not a bug,heh so when people were stuck in milegates that wasn't to?and also why are they fixing it if it's not a bug?

Mids and hibs if you see this just report them, if you see any in the wall serves them right.

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by Artemls
Isn't it more possible for pet to have LOS on battlements then entrence to Lord Tower?

It is, but the pet has either "No LoS" or "LoS", and there's nothing between like "Almost got LoS"

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by old.Katie
LOL Wine"!

First it was the caba Dots at keeps!! now its necros.. lol at notts TONIGHT.. we (necros) spent 80/90% of the time out-side the keep. (pet aswell)


TIP - KILL the PET .. don't try and kill the shade and you might... yes might! get some where!!

Yeah hope you will have just as much fun when ya FEEKING PET IS FIXED , AND U CANT LOS BUG FARM PEOPEL ANYMORE

 

[Fafnir]

Well as it is now, if you got a necro targeting you, and starting to nuke there is nothing to do if you are inside a keep, just sit down and wait to die. Saw 3-4 necro pets hugging the wall, at eras, no way to target them from the battlement. What would you necros like if i just targetted you ran away to safety and stared to dot you?

Cant wait for next patch.

 

[eynar]

Have some nice screenies I took at Hurbury yesterday: 3 necro shades standing outside at gatekeeper/hastener while we were bashing doors & guards, and no sign of their pets at all. However, they were casting spells continuously, and generated a lot of death messages. I will post a link to them later (I'm at work atm). Now I can understand it can be hard sometimes to not exploit the LoS bug, but only in certain situations, but this is something completely different.

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Azal
Don't be a pussy and hide your pet inside the keep then..or ..well thats not gona happen is it

Don't be a pussy and pa behind keep walls then..or ..well thats not gona happen is it

 

[Fafnir]

Originally posted by pbuck
Don't be a pussy and pa behind keep walls then..or ..well thats not gona happen is it

You wanna know how to tackle this? Get a tank, let him guard and use intercept on you while he has no target, get pa'd tank will take the hit, he gets a target, hit /face, hit slam, and nuke. Done this 2-3 times in keep defense. So what stealthers do is not half as bad as what necros are doin.

 

[sru]

Originally posted by old.Hardbein
hehehe

And yes Eynar....necros actively abusing the LoS system wont get my respect as a decent player...."just another n00b necro PLing his RAs again" uke:

tada!

Yes, LOS is irritating but please explain why Enhcanter LOS is also not bad?

Jut because Albs have finally got a casting pet class, you whine. Give me a break.

I will love the day when all pets need full LOS until then,

 

[pbuck]

Originally posted by Fafnir
You wanna know how to tackle this? Get a tank, let him guard and use intercept on you while he has no target, get pa'd tank will take the hit, he gets a target, hit /face, hit slam, and nuke. Done this 2-3 times in keep defense. So what stealthers do is not half as bad as what necros are doin.

I cant nuke the stealther when he is behind the wall but i can get paed.Plus with 2 stealthers and double pa u are going down anyway.Only "option" is not to come close to the wall(in the same way u have the "option" not to attack the keep defended by necros/enchanters/gtaoe spammers etc).
Anyway enough trolling already stick to the subject of the thread.