How can I get a hold on this?

[old.Anoushka]

oops... Roo...

I respect your opinion, despite disagreeing on the basics of it.

If we have members of our midgardian community who continuously and fully willingly disrupt the gamefun for others and do not care about the few common rules we all have agreed to respect and abide to it becomes a issue of public discussion.

(eg. utilizing a clearly excessively abusive language, leeching XP of groups, provoking beasts on xping groups, constantly shouting and whining around... and continuing to do so even if repeatedly being asked to stop) :wall:

Now we can take a position of saying who the heck cares, everybody can act as he wants to and let it be like this.

I disagree from this opinion as I play daoc because of the community aspects which comes with this game, like the need of grouping, the guild and alliance life and also because this is not a childish egoistic powerego mmorg but a game where a lot of "elder" ppl choose to spend their little spare time besides family and work.

I am convinced that 95+% of all midgardians see it similarly. The question is how to deal with ppl who play for the sake of disrupting gamefun for others... and here I have a clear position for myself (see my previous post). This position is hence also strongly related to my understanding of community life within this game.

and again... this is no flaming thread just a clear and personal opinion on this matter, the source being the post which Saaug raised at the occasion of Krabbens departure...

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Ok, calling it random was probably a poor choice of words. You can see on these types of threads that get hijacked, peeps just jump on the bandwagon often regardless of whether they know anything about the subject in hand or have had direct experience with Player X. Please don't start naming dates and times to prove your case everyone, you know what I mean. It was the trend I was talking about, not individual comments.

Zzz yet another have-a-pop-at-Saaug thread hijacking. Think about what's happened with this thread. A legitimate question gets asked on a forum and lots of people jump on the chance to say I don't like you. It smacks of pot and kettle. How is this any better than what Saaug does? (Can't help sensing some want revenge for something I'm about to mention.... )

Notice I didn't call Saaug a team player, just quite a good player. I know he's not a team player and in the many conversations I've had with him he readily admits this is a weakness. The times I've grouped and he's reigned in his <cough> enthusiasm he's shown himself to be pretty good and I know other people who will agree, but not openly; your rep can get damaged pretty fast sticking up for Saaug. Erm, hang on a sec

I also said I have no intention of defending many things he says and does. They are, as peeps repeatedly and loudly point out, indefensible and he quite rightly has to live with the results.
The Kraben incident was particularly unneccesary, but even there I don't know if there's a history behind it and I know I'm going to get a kicking for even suggesting such a thing. The few times I've grouped with Kraben he was a good peep to be around so I do admit Krab having done something to Saaug/Hansi/Raahoj/Cezar is unlikely. (I did wonder at first if the post was a failed attempt at the "You bastard" humour you get between friends, but when there was no follow up or edit, I guess not :/ )

Dozi, I'm not going to argue, you're right. Actions/consequences, being open with peeps when you are using alts etc, I know the deal. I don't condone hiding who you are but its easy to figure out why he didn't mention his mains, given the case of foaming dog fever that breaks out at the mere mention of those chars
Note: I'm not condoning it, just mentioning it.

All I was doing was pointing out some things from someone who has been grouped with the guy on more than one occasion and had some long conversations with him. Oh yes, and btw I've given him the odd kicking too. Don't go thinking I'm soft on the guy. Dark Roo isn't just a bedtime story we tell young Fedaykin to give them nightmares.

I just mentioned some positive things and asked that people look at themselves and their own actions because they are uncomfortably similar at times, even though delivered with greater social skill


Natch Trig anyone that suggests you are less than perfect needs to be sent back to the factory for repair

Feck, my restraining bolt just fell off...

 

[mid_Efour]

lol Roo,

No hes a freak, anti social to the extreme.

i still have nightmares remembering the WoW hunt we were on and having to listening to his crap when 2 wow belts dropped. this was during his "overerly nice, hey im not so bad, gimme items I buy diamond seals 5g spam, you got 800 metal work? hinge this for me" phase.

I had to log when it came to lotto time i was just to scared of the result, and yes he/his guild did get a wow belt and possibly both if i recall..
i was bitterly gutted and emotionaly scared.

 

[Skrad]

Originally posted by mid_Efour


I had to log when it came to lotto time i was just to scared of the result, and yes he/his guild did get a wow belt and possibly both if i recall..
i was bitterly gutted and emotionaly scared.

/em hands Efour a rather large comfort blanket

 

[Ragnarok1978]

Tbh I can understand the way people feel towards Saaug.

He's acted like an ass more than one time too many, you can give someone a chance to prove you wrong, but then all they do is confirm your disgust towards them and their style of play, I see nothing wrong with acting towards them, like they do towards you.

He lied about being Saaug when he was in Nemesis, but it didn't take long to figure out after he went back to his old, idiotic self.

He offers nothing good to the game or other players, he's selfish, he's a loner, he doesn't give a damn about anyone else and in general his social skills are far below what could be considored "decent". Personally I think Midgard would be better off if he wasn't around.

 

[blain]

Just as a quick check, does anybody have any problems with me or any of my alts?

I'd hate to think that there are people out there who have negative things to say about me in game.

 

[trigali]

Blain is the man. I love him so much, I would faint.

I mean he is charismatic, nice, friendly, generous, good-looking, joyful, always ready for a laugh, efficient, helpful, strong, humourous, altruistic and many more.

Well, I've never actually played with you, I think. But I'm sure you are.

Nobody pleases everybody Blain, but there is only ONE person on Midgard who manages to displease everybody. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[blain]

Originally posted by trigali
Blain is the man. I love him so much, I would faint.

I mean he is charismatic, nice, friendly, generous, good-looking, joyful, always ready for a laugh, efficient, helpful, strong, humourous, altruistic and many more.

Well, I've never actually played with you, I think. But I'm sure you are.

Are you sure we've never played together, because you just described me to a tee

 

[trigali]

Maybe I was just blinded by the light emanating from you, your powerful aura, and that I forgot everything but the fact I was enjoying the company of a superior being.

Yes.

That's probably it

 

[blain]

I like you Trigali...I really do.

 

[trigali]

<holds his hand out for his bribe>

Sponsor your crafters !

 

[Old Nicodemus]

Originally posted by trigali
Maybe I was just blinded by the light emanating from you, your powerful aura, and that I forgot everything but the fact I was enjoying the company of a superior being.

<Phone ringing>

Tck.

Good evening, Chez Gna restaurant.
<muffled talking>
Certainly Sir. We have tables available.
<muffled talking>
Would Sir be eating alone or with a guest?
<muffled talking>
Excellent.. Would Sir care for the "staring into the eyes intently flame lit table" or the "Your aura is so bright tonight darling" table?
<muffled talking>
I see Sir. And the name please?
<muffled talking>
Mr Shadowbold Lovemachine. Yes Sir.. your table is booked.

 

[old.Trine Aquavit]

Hey Blain, I thought you knew that we all talk about you behind your back...

"There goes Blain the paranoid", we say. Surely you can hear the whispers

On the subject of Saaug, I kind of agree with Roo. While the guy can be a complete tool, I'm not sure he deserves the whole heap of vitriol that we seem to dump on him. While he should be put right when he makes stupid, unthinking comments (like those about Krabstick) people do seem a bit to willing to use any excuse to launch into a torrent of abuse.

So, while I'm with Anoushka on the subject of community I can't agree that the best way to deal with antisocial behaviour is to use antisocial behaviour. After all, people have been abusive to Saaug for most of the past year and it doesn't seem to have helped his behaviour - it possibly makes it worse.

 

[blain]

There is a punishment for antisocial people, its called Alb-Exc

 

[Starkill]

A few familiar names on this thread. Yes stretch your memories back I did once consume a massive amount of my time playing this game.

Firstly hello to Roo and some of the OLD regulars.

Secondly to Saaug I am really glad your still in Camelot now I have moved on. Yes at the time I was GL of the Dentists when we decided to give him a second chance (big mistake). If you were on fire I wouldnt piss on you. Your post to another long time player leaving sums you up really, the maturity of a fetus and probably the looks to go with it to.

A few of you will remember me from days of old and most will know I never bear a grudge but that man breaks the rules.

Anyway the reason for my post. The Dentists are a much bigger community than the guild in Camelot and I was just trawling through our DAoC threads to see how life was shaping up for those few of them still playing when I came across a few references to post on here. The funny thing is I have been gone from Camelot for a good few months now but being a Saaug has been mentioned to me more than a few times in my new home of AC2. There are a few players who came from DAoC and it seems to be almost terminology with some.

Finally Saaug has, what I can only presume he has always been after, notoriety for being a complete twat in online games.

I am sure we can assure this carries forward to SWG or the many others coming up in the future. As another poster pointed out he can almost become the defacto standard for being a complete wanker in MMORPG's. At least he has a use for something.

On a side note hope you guys are doing well and enjoying Shrouded Isles. I was tempted but the land of Dereth in AC2 has kept me busy. Should any of you play if only occassionally, I can be found on Dawnsong as the following characters:

Starkill - no big suprise there then
Starkiller
Crash Override
Zero Cool
The Gimp - mule character

I only mention it as I have met a few suprising old faces there.


P.S. Grouped with the same few guys tonight and the phrase was "Being a Hansi", just one of many alts.