holy exploding P4's batman!

Cozak

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Seen one with an AMD64 where they did the same, it blew a hole clean through the desk.
 

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Cozak said:
Seen one with an AMD64 where they did the same, it blew a hole clean through the desk.

ya, my mate on msn just said the same thing :)

btw finally sorted my overheating problem though... almost fried the CPU because of dust, didnt realise how bad it was untill i took the fan out to have a look-see, heatsink was full of dust :eek6: was half tempted to take a picture of it - "the worlds most dust-filled cpu" or something. anyways sorted now, cpu temp down from 71˚C(!!!) to 35˚C :)
 

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How j00 get so much dust in there ? You play DAOC in a giant hoover bag with the tower case off ?
 

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Hmm how hot is too hot? When playing games on my laptop, I use a program to keep the cpu fan on high, and I have a coolermaster Notepal (laptop cooling surface thingy thats actually very shite), and the temp hovers around 70-75C, is that bad? :(
 

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that is a laptop so i would expect high temps. although check with the cpu providers website to see a list of save temps.
 

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Mine seems to be running at 82.6* o_O From the temp-gage on the front of my baseunit... ;o Might clean it out.
 

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Depends heavily on the procesor, i personally will never let my cpu run 55oC full load when i am overclocking a CPU.

60oC is generally the max you should ever have your system running at and even then not for long, past experience at 60oC i usually saw some stability and consistency issues.

70oC - 80oC is the usual shutdown temperature for a cpu (i.e its got so hot the system will shut itself down to save your gear) , if you have it enabled ofc.

But i would aim for around 50oC or you are reducing the lifetime of your rig.

Laptops are a different ballgame, 50oC+ is very common when they are under load.
I found the best method is to put something underneath to raise the laptop in order to get as much air flowing underneath as possible


Edit: remember there is a difference between your cpu and your chipset, chipsets usually run very hot so unless they were reaching 70-80oC i wouldnt worry too much.
Dont panik tho most good quality components wont permanently become damaged until they reach 120oC, so there is no mad dash to your local computer store for a huge heatsink just yet ;)
 

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Even if you disable shutdown temperature in your BIOS, or alter it to higher than recomended etc, at least Pentium processors will shut down anyway at 115c. This is hardwired into them and cannot be changed afaik, to prevent them catching fire or causing other things in the comp to catch fire etc. Dunno about AMD's. Ofc, when they are getting close to that temp they will be useless anyway and you will surely notice it.

Dunno how they managed to get one to explode though. Must have been something easily flamable near it or some such.
 

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Fana said:
Dunno how they managed to get one to explode though. Must have been something easily flamable near it or some such.
They put firecrackers under it or something aparently,
but as you said it wont happen irl :p

AMD doesnt have a shutdown temp afaik, they will go till they pop and stop working.
I think the pentiums also will underclock themselves if they are overheating if i remember correctly
 

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Lamp said:
How j00 get so much dust in there ? You play DAOC in a giant hoover bag with the tower case off ?

Would imagine it was slowly picking dust up from the debris left behind my "DIY" desk building :)

I had to put a hole in the desk for cpu wires etc - created a fair bit of dust and although I went over the place with a hoover several times before bringing the computers back in, the fan still seems to have picked up practically every particle of dust within a radius of 10km's :(

It really did look bad though - there was more dust in the heatsink that you'd expect to find inside a hoover bag, I ran the computer with motherboard monitor up untill a week ago, mainly because I was worried my computers would overheat in thier current side-by-side position.

There was no problems though, however since I wiped my computer a few weeks ago it seems to have been running slow - I happened to put motherboard monitor back on today and saw that the thing was running at 70c, I then started looking at reasons why the computer would be running so hot (hence the google search that turned up the exploding P4 video).

Eventually I took the fan off of the heatsink and had a look under it, and low and behold I found the worlds supply of dust! :eek:

Since cleaning the computer I've noticed all the performance problems have totally gone - CS was running at 5-10fps before, it now runs twice as fast as that even when I was recording with fraps earlier :D

Chronictank said:
I think the pentiums also will underclock themselves if they are overheating if i remember correctly

Yea, after checking BIOS it seems my FSB was running at 50-60%, has a setting in there to disable it or set how low to throttle the system.
 

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Pentiums throttle yes - many labtops rarely use the P4's full potential because its perma throttling ;p

i had a program on my labtop so i could disable throttling but i cant remember where i found it or its name

throttle watch?

AMD put something similar in the x64 cpus - suppose to just stop completly before burning off - but ye the old athlons didnt have anything so they would keep going till they died ;x

have to keep in mind that if you just remove the cooler they will die as they dont have a chance to throttle before they are dead ;p
 

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also remember to leave your computer on for 20 odd minutes before you remove a heatsink since the thermal compound usually sticks the 2 together (sometimes like glue), just to save you having an expensive paperweight
 

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