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Hiz: It was crush :) What I always use on Crit shot :)
And I have 45bow + 10% dmg etc...
 

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Kathal said:
So what does SMs have that makes them SOOOO uber in caster vs caster fights??

ml9 intercept pet

Wont comment on your rr ding as you know that playing cocklock is easymode so well done on wasting almost 3 months of your life
 

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Tosen said:
Hiz: It was crush :) What I always use on Crit shot :)
And I have 45bow + 10% dmg etc...

still 44% crush resist though - PD5 ftw!
 

Kathal

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Ok here we go. 1 quote to answer them all.

Comos said:
Well at least you can win now :rolleyes:
Septina said:
Now go make some more rp's on the only char you can handle :p
I won more than I lost on my hunter and SM. A LOT more. Yey go me etc.

Eva said:
Less question marks.. ~~

Far from every fight start at max range of ns/bolts. What makes sm ops is that lifetap + intercepting pets. Only lifetap is usefull vs casters of that. But you got alot more tools like mezz, dex debuffs. If you can't play the class decent don't cry about it and roll the next op thing since you think people are better than you because of their class, because that's far from true.

Skald was never fotm or OP, but do you need that to play it? Skald is a very fun class to play and was in most groups pre toa so wouldn't be hard to get a group. If you can play your class that is.
I use 2 question marks. Not 1, not 5. I use 2. Get over it.
I KNOW not every fight starts at max range, but in all fights I was in with my SM were in vs the caster classes with long range spells I could either die, purge or run away. NSed I could purge or die. 2 bolts and I were dead. Mezzed and I were probably dead in a few secs. How fun is it to be mezzed, get a pet(ML9) on you and see the sorc either run or LT you??
Ok SMs got a debuff. That’s very nice vs a sorc that have debuffed you before you can do anything. Yey 2 dex/qui debuffed casters and the sorc nuke first + get his pet on you when he nukes.
Anyways you STILL think that the intercepting pet makes up for speed and uber mezz etc??

anioal said:
don't try to explain him anything, if u check his sig u will notice that he has 2 spiritmasters, both specced on summoning and even with that i bet he doens't know he can have a chain stunning pet.
he really doesn't know what is a life tap, a mezz, a dex debuff, a pbaoe, a root (so what if it's a base spell? there is no need for root when u'r focusing with a ml9 pet) :p
COULD it be I had 2 accounts and I used my 2 SMs to do artifacts etc?? Both SMs have been Dark, Supp and Summ. You know about respect stones right??
Yep I know what spells SMs have.

Dafft said:
ml9 intercept pet

Wont comment on your rr ding as you know that playing cocklock is easymode so well done on wasting almost 3 months of your life

still 44% crush resist though - PD5 ftw!
Again what good is my pet vs casters where the fights start at max range?? Does it intercept nukes and NS??
I haven’t wasted more time than you. Playing a char I like is not my idea of wasted time. If you are as annoyed at the class/game I guess you are the one wasting time.
26% crush from items + 28% crush from PD5. 26 + 28 = 54% afaik. Btw I only have PD4.

Well well cya out there ;)
 

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Kathal said:
You know about respect stones right??

Holy hell, didnt know you could buy such stones, you better hurry and get three dozen... looks like you could use em :D
 

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Kathal said:
26% crush from items + 28% crush from PD5. 26 + 28 = 54% afaik. Btw I only have PD4.

You do realise how Damage resist is calculated I trust? if not let me explain in a formula.

dmg = X
Resist = Y

so when you see x(-y) it works like this: Y / (X + Y, so say you got shot for 1024(-800) it works like this 800 / 1824 = 44% resist.

Oh and on another note, you do realise that PD is a secondary resist not a primary therefore although it may state
PD1 = 2%
PD2 = 5%
PD3 = 12%
PD4 = 19%
PD5 = 28%

They dont stack right, as I have PD3 & it's more like 9%
 

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yep, the dude is really convinced that spiritmasters are crap and only because he losts some fights vs sorc and prolly a caba or a eld :)

i will try to put it this way... caster vs caster is all about who manages to win the intrerupts war or who manages to get the jump on the opponent... u know a caster can drop in 2-4 casts and that's roughly 2-4 seconds for a well kited caster IF he's not intrerupted.

again, stop the bulshiting about caster vs caster fights because in those situations u need to be really fast in decisions and button spammin to win... and praise god that u dont have to fight warlocks and bonedancers cause my chanter had a much hard time against those then against alb casters
 

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anioal said:
yep, the dude is really convinced that spiritmasters are crap and only because he losts some fights vs sorc and prolly a caba or a eld :)

i will try to put it this way... caster vs caster is all about who manages to win the intrerupts war or who manages to get the jump on the opponent... u know a caster can drop in 2-4 casts and that's roughly 2-4 seconds for a well kited caster IF he's not intrerupted.

again, stop the bulshiting about caster vs caster fights because in those situations u need to be really fast in decisions and button spammin to win... and praise god that u dont have to fight warlocks and bonedancers cause my chanter had a much hard time against those then against alb casters

You r right /cheers :) No matter if u r a WL or not
 

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its not actually the class.

its the fact that he plays it like all the other warlocks out their bar none.

Its got to the stage where no one really wants to attack WL's cuz of the insta damage so basically they run around and chamber anything without exception, and this unfortunetly includes anyone having a meaningfull fight on a different class...

Im sorry to say it hiz but you are an adder extreme... and you play the class exactly the same as all the other dickheads that cant cut it on normal classes. BD WL SM its all the same in my book. They cannot resist adding.

again.... if you make your gratz thread in the RVR forum not your realm forum or you /gc... you are looking for mass exposure... but ofc you also get the reactions of other players apart from your friends.... So accept that criticism rather than just the Hah WL QQ etc!

that fact that again (as in the case of killsemba) the community unanimously gives you the big finger confirms that you are a worthless player... I know you aint gonna like or accept that statement but just think about it from a neutral standpoint for 5 minutes... your mentality epitomises everything thats bad about the game... You have no desire to stick with a class based on playstyle against performance.. if they invented the new and improved warlock mark II tommorrow you would reroll quicker than you could say "fotm no skill mofo"... and your playstyle or lack of it would be exactly the same on the new warlock.

WL's ofc are bad for the game but tbh they are just a platform for newbs to have some sucess, its the player that abuses it not the OP class thats the problem really.
 

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censi said:
its not actually the class.

its the fact that he plays it like all the other warlocks out their bar none.

Its got to the stage where no one really wants to attack WL's cuz of the insta damage so basically they run around and chamber anything without exception, and this unfortunetly includes anyone having a meaningfull fight on a different class...

Im sorry to say it hiz but you are an adder extreme... and you play the class exactly the same as all the other dickheads that cant cut it on normal classes. BD WL SM its all the same in my book. They cannot resist adding.

again.... if you make your gratz thread in the RVR forum not your realm forum or you /gc... you are looking for mass exposure... but ofc you also get the reactions of other players apart from your friends.... So accept that criticism rather than just the Hah WL QQ etc!

that fact that again (as in the case of killsemba) the community unanimously gives you the big finger confirms that you are a worthless player... I know you aint gonna like or accept that statement but just think about it from a neutral standpoint for 5 minutes... your mentality epitomises everything thats bad about the game... You have no desire to stick with a class based on playstyle against performance.. if they invented the new and improved warlock mark II tommorrow you would reroll quicker than you could say "fotm no skill mofo"... and your playstyle or lack of it would be exactly the same on the new warlock.

WL's ofc are bad for the game but tbh they are just a platform for newbs to have some sucess, its the player that abuses it not the OP class thats the problem really.

So ur Ranger never add? That is add class nr 1.

WL is the class that get killed most, maybe u r a bad player...WL is a part of the game take it or leave it, adding is legal, go another place if u want to play a class that allways win (in case u dont know Frontiers is a war sone with no Geneva acts protecting anyone), there is no honor in war actaully.....kill kill ftw private. (irl i am major in RAF- bombs away)

WL ftw

My Harrier is better than yours :)

WL ftw
 

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So ur Ranger never add? That is add class nr 1.

generally I try not to. Theres exceptions of course, like ill add on hiz now without hesitation... If im honest ill probably go so far as to say theres a lot of mages I could add on potentially add on... but Ill check the name first. I tend to know a bit about a lot of the targets I see around. I try not to let the class effect whether or not I add, but to be honest there is not one warlock out there who doesnt add... I cannot say the same of any other class (like as much as I hate sorcs, bds, sms, cabbys etc, I could name a few that respect 1v1's)

I have tried to give hiz the benefit of the doubt in the past and leave him to his fights... he has defeintly not returned that favour. you cannot fight near this dude because he will chamber you mid fight even if its a realm mate having a good fight with me etc... its just RP to him.

thats why i am very critical of him in this gratz thread. its not personal, he is just a newb in daoc. not that this means much.
 

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Faen said:
Everybody presses a few buttons in case u dont know:)

A WL neds to push 2-3 buttons and after that 1 button before next spell that means if 2 chambers: 2 bottons then 2 more for the next spell and if u need to cast another spell its 2 more totall of 6, (7 if 3 chambers and 8 if 4 chambers) buttons pushed :)

Then comes the loading part (chambers)...thats 3 buttons pushed on each chamber:) that means 9 buttoms pushed if 3 chambers before u go to war.

How many buttons do a Sorc/wiz or enchanter/eld push?????

WL ftw :)
about 25. Now go back in your hole.
 

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Septina said:
Holy hell, didnt know you could buy such stones, you better hurry and get three dozen... looks like you could use em :D
I have about 35 respec stones atm. 23 of them are sold for our alliance. But what do you want me to respect?? My SMs or . . . ??

anioal said:
i will try to put it this way... caster vs caster is all about who manages to win the intrerupts war or who manages to get the jump on the opponent... u know a caster can drop in 2-4 casts and that's roughly 2-4 seconds for a well kited caster IF he's not intrerupted.

again, stop the bulshiting about caster vs caster fights because in those situations u need to be really fast in decisions and button spammin to win... and praise god that u dont have to fight warlocks and bonedancers cause my chanter had a much hard time against those then against alb casters
Max range fights, max range. If its all about winning the interrupt war then how am I going to win a fight where I’m NSed or mezzed from max range?? Ohh and what about hib casters?? Is it all about winning the interrupt war with those too or just to avoid the stun?? If I’m stunned and purge is down the hib stun is a “I win button” and it still is vs WLs if you jump them.
Funny thing you should mention spamming buttons. WL is the only class where THAT doesn’t work. You have to time every single nuke instead of just lining up the next spell.

censi said:
Im sorry to say it hiz but you are an adder extreme... and you play the class exactly the same as all the other dickheads that cant cut it on normal classes. BD WL SM its all the same in my book. They cannot resist adding.
I respect a duel if I see one, but if I see 2 albs on 2 mid I have no problems killing the alb that’s on 100% (ie the one the mid isn’t fighting). I have no problems with killing 1 alb fighting 1 hib. If I kill an alb/hib that a mid was having a 1 vs 1 with I usually apologise. If I’m watching a 1 vs 1 and there is a FG albs/hibs inc I kill the hib/alb and hide. The FGs steamroll the fight anyways. If I see an arranged duel at Bled I WILL end it. If I see a FG vs FG I WILL add on the fight. I’m a WL and none spare me so why shouldn’t I add ;)
And the whole “Don’t add” thing is just pathetic tbh. If it ruins your game/day you are one dumb mofo. Get over it.

censi said:
that fact that again (as in the case of killsemba) the community unanimously gives you the big finger confirms that you are a worthless player... I know you aint gonna like or accept that statement but just think about it from a neutral standpoint for 5 minutes... your mentality epitomises everything thats bad about the game... You have no desire to stick with a class based on playstyle against performance.. if they invented the new and improved warlock mark II tommorrow you would reroll quicker than you could say "fotm no skill mofo"... and your playstyle or lack of it would be exactly the same on the new warlock.
HAHAHAHHA!!!! So the whole community is against ME. Well there have been albs that have borrowed mid accounts that have PMed me a gratz on the rr. There have been hibs that have given me a gratz. And ofc a lot of mids ingame.
Btw one of the best, if not THE best caster in the game have rolled a WL now. Did he just morph into a crapy player and a retard irl??
I think stun ruins the game. I think long range NS ruins the game. I think sorc mezz ruins the game and so on. . . . HELL no. There are some classes out there that are just as OP as the WL and they are not ruining the game.
There will always be some chars that are on of the food chain and atm its WLs. Deal with it and stop whining.
 

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ok im moving in the discussion, been fun reading all replies :)

As i actually play Alb now i really see how overpowered many mid classes really are, SMs, BD, WLs etc etc, when i played mid i really didnt think about this but now its just sad to see the "easymode" mid really are, Albion is great fun, have ofc some overpowered classes too (same with hib :) ) but all those are small toys compared to Warlocks, i dont know if Mythic was high on crack or something when they made that class, it shouldnt even exist in the game and i say that as a MID. Insta bolt range and high dmg shouldnt be on same char, the WL would be great even if it was 1500 range (normal).
As it is now its pretty impossible to be less then 2 to kill a WL, but i guess WL was mythic answer to Caster killer, to bad they missed it should have been a tank.......

PS: no WL deserve respect, add on them like hell :)

PS2: No offense kathal :m00:
 

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Kathal said:
There are some classes out there that are just as OP as the WL and they are not ruining the game.
There will always be some chars that are on of the food chain and atm its WLs. Deal with it and stop whining.

<sprays>

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Censi, did you ever enjoyed playing this game?

the ammount you whine makes me believe you are forced to play this.
 

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Calo said:
Censi, did you ever enjoyed playing this game?

the ammount you whine makes me believe you are forced to play this.

and i must add add add add add add, same goes 4 comos :)
 

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Kathal said:
Max range fights, max range. If its all about winning the interrupt war then how am I going to win a fight where I’m NSed or mezzed from max range?? Ohh and what about hib casters?? Is it all about winning the interrupt war with those too or just to avoid the stun?? If I’m stunned and purge is down the hib stun is a “I win button” and it still is vs WLs if you jump them.
Funny thing you should mention spamming buttons. WL is the only class where THAT doesn’t work. You have to time every single nuke instead of just lining up the next spell..


1.you really dont want to understand that only light elds have ns in hib and in alb only cabas have it, also ns or stun or bolt range mezz shouldn't really be a problem for a class that can rack rps that fast and can and will win fights with purge2-purge3 as single RA. with purge3 u can get a kill every 5 mins... that is 12k per hour... sick isn't it?

2.your main problem is you want to pwn just any other toon in rvr and the only one that can do that is the warlock, a class that shouldn't really exist in this game. you dont play other toons in rvr because any other class has its nemesis.


Kathal said:
HAHAHAHHA!!!! So the whole community is against ME. Well there have been albs that have borrowed mid accounts that have PMed me a gratz on the rr. There have been hibs that have given me a gratz. And ofc a lot of mids ingame.
Btw one of the best, if not THE best caster in the game have rolled a WL now. Did he just morph into a crapy player and a retard irl??
I think stun ruins the game. I think long range NS ruins the game. I think sorc mezz ruins the game and so on. . . . HELL no. There are some classes out there that are just as OP as the WL and they are not ruining the game.
There will always be some chars that are on of the food chain and atm its WLs. Deal with it and stop whining.

nope, the whole comunity is against the class not against the players behind the class, even sorcs can be dealt with... but a well played warlock cant... lucky that from all the locks i met only takhylock (sp?) seemed to have the skill required to make the class absolutly god mode
 

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Zahr said:
and i must add add add add add add, same goes 4 comos :)

My heart bleeds.
You would be surprised how many 1on1s I stay out of. If you get killed you prolly (stealth)zerged me in the past anyways. /nocare
 

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lol , saying that SM isent overpowered , perma bg :puke:
 

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this thread is almost getting as good as a BC arti stealing thread, but its still a bit to little crying!

COME ON GUYS! I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER!!! :drink:
 

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hehe yeah cry more:)


Gratz buddy! keep annoying them kiddos!

:clap: :clap:
 

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Hm I ought to play my vamp a bit more and kill Hiz a few times now that he's worth more rps.

Gratz I guess although it must be said that your class is even more easy mode than my sickly OPd vamp (hi der stealthers with poor matter resists).
 

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graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatz :cheers:



if nerf wl plz nerf:
rr5 ns ability/side stun
sors mezz
caby pet
hib base stun
eld mezz nearsight on same spec line
vamp safe fall
etc etc

:sex:
 

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censi said:
no he wouldnt your a fucking adder supreme

You got no idea.
On your fights I might, but oh wait that's cuz you're a stealthzerger supreme.
 

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