Hibs Could have Defended

[Fagane]

The Hibs could have defended themselves. There where like 35 Albs (level range 35 to 50) who did the relic raid. We killed a few hibs who where defending, but we also saw several Hib groups running around.

We also saw in a distrance several Mids. The raid was valid, but Hibs did not care enough to defend it. If there was 1fg inside the relic keep (and we saw 2fg running around) we never would be able to get the relics.

Still I would not mind if there was a total reset of all relics AND a restriction of Max 1 relic be stolen per keep per 8 hours of RL time.

I find it rediculous how we are playing now. We just raid for all relics of 1 kind at ones. And its not even considerd to be 3 difrent relics.

Fagane

 

[old.Zarko]

hibs had 28 peeps online when the relics where taken........... and that was in the lvl range 1 to 50..

 

[thorwyntf]

A relic raid where 99% of the Server population is unable to log on can´t be valid, end of story.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

We had 4 Hibs inc to dagda.They stopped Xping in Muire Tomb just to defend our Relic!

 

[svartmetall]

Dammit...we had 500 Mids all logged on and ready to invade Albion (we bribed the gate guards to let us in)...Trolls throwing Albs off the walls of Camelot and carving their names into the top of the Round Coffee Table, would have been great...

 

[orlan]

its not valid.. lol.. its rvr .. not rvNoOne and it sure aint a coop server either.. so.. let them reset the relics and let the mids dry up their tears from the floors.. btw.. nice keep taking mids u cant take ours str relics. so u have to take the weaker opponents hib hah hf gl

 

[raithian]

how can you call it a valid rtaid almost everyone in mid and hib was either attack or trying to defend relic and was kicked when server crashed hibs had what 40-50ppl online all lvls mids had about 75 all lvls
you can only call it valid when the realm who has the relics has a chance to defend it and with 99% of ppl unable to log in from all realms to wiether defend attack or site and watch you cant call it a valide raid (unless your alb) then you will say its a good raid as u got 3 pow relics undefended un oposed free and we all no albs love free things i heard beer is free in alb thats why there so bloody meny of you

if goa refuses to return the relics back to hib then it will cost them alot of ppl as a few will just see this as yet another WE LOVE ALBS msg from goa

albs took advantage of a situation that is not normal to the game play a compleat zone crash that removed 99% of the server if goa do not see that it is unjust and unfair to return those relics to the hibs who earned them in a fair and just way then its just a case of WE LUB ALBS from goa

 

[[DK]hakke]

not valid imo

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by raithian
yet another WE LOVE ALBS msg from goa

So, when were the other such msgs, friend?

 

[murazor]

I wonder if any Hibs complaining about unfair advantage were amongst the ones w8ing for mids to relog and then gank them.

Whining hypocrites.

Think ill go look for some grey Hibs to kill. Usually avoid it myself but when in Hib do as the Hibs......

Blueface 50 War TDA

 

[Rubric]

Originally posted by murazor


Think ill go look for some grey Hibs to kill. Usually avoid it myself but when in Hib do as the Hibs......

Blueface 50 War TDA

Of course you wouldnt actually be in Hib coz that would break the coc.

 

[Rubric]

Originally posted by Fagane
The Hibs could have defended themselves. There where like 35 Albs (level range 35 to 50) who did the relic raid. We killed a few hibs who where defending, but we also saw several Hib groups running around.

We also saw in a distrance several Mids. The raid was valid, but Hibs did not care enough to defend it. If there was 1fg inside the relic keep (and we saw 2fg running around) we never would be able to get the relics.

Still I would not mind if there was a total reset of all relics AND a restriction of Max 1 relic be stolen per keep per 8 hours of RL time.

I find it rediculous how we are playing now. We just raid for all relics of 1 kind at ones. And its not even considerd to be 3 difrent relics.

Fagane

 

[Pin]

Any person in Albion who actually wanted to have all 6 relics is retarded.

 

[Asq]

Originally posted by Fagane
The Hibs could have defended themselves. There where like 35 Albs (level range 35 to 50) who did the relic raid. We killed a few hibs who where defending, but we also saw several Hib groups running around.

We also saw in a distrance several Mids. The raid was valid, but Hibs did not care enough to defend it. If there was 1fg inside the relic keep (and we saw 2fg running around) we never would be able to get the relics.
Fagane

UHm... sure

Originally posted by Fagane
Still I would not mind if there was a total reset of all relics AND a restriction of Max 1 relic be stolen per keep per 8 hours of RL time.
Fagane

I'm considering this...

Originally posted by Fagane
I find it rediculous how we are playing now. We just raid for all relics of 1 kind at ones. And its not even considerd to be 3 difrent relics.
Fagane

No here I completely agree... the way rr's have been going on these last few weeks/months is completely absurd. I say if a relic is captured is shouild be held in a different keep then the realms original relickeep. The way it is now, all relics of one kind / type switch owners after a single raid. There's definately room for improvement here.

 

[Gordonax]

It's perfectly valid for the Albs to see the opportunity and go for it. Personally I wouldn't have bothered, as I don't think an undefended relic raid would be all that much fun (which is why I wouldn't do a 4am raid either). But, having thought about it, I don't blame those Albs who did do it.

It's also completely right that the relics get reset, as it would be completely unfair on the hibs for them to not have the chance to defend their relics owing to a technical problem at Goa's end. Goa messed up, they should fix the mess up by resetting the relics.

And it's worth remembering the mids in all this mess. They put together what looked like a brilliant plan and got cheated out of a well deserved relic.

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Pin
Any person in Albion who actually wanted to have all 6 relics is retarded.

Oh, I'd love to have all six relics - having beaten the Mids and Hibbies fair and square. If any realm had all six relics through regular battle you'd have to applaud them.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Gordonax
Oh, I'd love to have all six relics - having beaten the Mids and Hibbies fair and square. If any realm had all six relics through regular battle you'd have to applaud them.

You obviously don't understand... So...


When a realm has more than 3 relics you get fewer guards defending the relic keeps. So if Albion held all 6 relics tonight then they would lose ALL of them before the weekend without a raid party needing to take a single keep.

I would much rather have the chance of keeping 3 relics for a month or two rather than have all 6 for a couple of days. And because Myrrdin, the choice of which 3 to have is easy.

 

[Aule Valar]

if people could actually be bothered, considereing the number who have two lvl 50s it would be easy to defend, and personally i'd prefer power relics

 

[Gordonax]

No, I understand perfectly well. So what if they got taken away from us? You know what - realms lose relics. You have fun taking them, you have fun defending them, if the game is balanced properly, sooner or later you'll lose them.

All of which is as it should be. If one realm holds too many relics, it would get boring. This is a game, after all, and it should be fun for everyone. It's not about winning - it's about taking part with style

 

[old.LandShark]

No - we get all 6, we lose 3 to mid and 3 to hib (likely because mid would prefer str and hib power) and then each opponent realm has an easily defended 3 relics, and we have none. Whereas atm, Mid is in that position.... no 'easy target' relic(s) and no relics in their possession.

 

[Gordonax]

And I think you're missing the point. Keeping the relics like they were the family silver is dull. Taking them, trying to take them, and defending them is fun.

Remember the first couple of days after we took back the relics? Hell most people I know had more fun then rushing off to defend them at the first sight of 2fg in Hadrian's Wall than most Albs had had messing around in emain for months.

 

[kirennia]

Originally posted by raithian

yet another WE LOVE ALBS msg from goa

Really would love to know where you think this up from. As far as I know, Albs have had 5 failed relic attempts all due to zone crashes as well as the lasser advantage in equal battle in general. I also remember the mids/hibs taking the piss out of albs when the first 2 zone crashes happened (both from albs on hib relic keep) and laughed at how it happened. Now you get the same thing happening, I note how none of you are laughing.

But this....this really is a dumb comment, surely even hibs/mids must notice by now that GOA doesn't love Alb, mid or hib wholly, as they have team leaders for every class.

And to the original poster, no doubt it was a laugh getting them but no, it would be completely unfair if the albs got to keep the relics when 95% of hib couldn't log on.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Gordonax
And I think you're missing the point.

No. You are missing the point. We have had the relics one week. I'd rather play at defending them a while then be without them, trying to take them.

Originally posted by Gordonax
Keeping the relics ... is dull ... defending them is fun.

k

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Gordonax

And it's worth remembering the mids in all this mess. They put together what looked like a brilliant plan and got cheated out of a well deserved relic.

the fight over Dagda had just begin, so none can make a call who'd have won and who'd have lost. Therefor they haven't deserved a relic yet. And you can't really deserve a relic by making a nice plan.

edit: but sure, the relicraid deserved a better faith then a crash. like an awsome fight

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by kirennia
Really would love to know where you think this up from. As far as I know, Albs have had 5 failed relic attempts all due to zone crashes as well as the lasser advantage in equal battle in general. I also remember the mids/hibs taking the piss out of albs when the first 2 zone crashes happened (both from albs on hib relic keep) and laughed at how it happened. Now you get the same thing happening, I note how none of you are laughing.

as far as i remember the first zonecrash was when hibs attacked excalibur. and it was a nice raid untill server crashed. albs laughed thier arses of bcuz of this. but then, albs attacked Dagda and when hibs was closing in the zone crashed and the hibs could laugh back.

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Pin
No. You are missing the point. We have had the relics one week. I'd rather play at defending them a while then be without them, trying to take them.

I believe you said you'd rather have three relics for three months. Three months is a hell of a long time in a game that's been around for, what 1.5 years? Three weeks maybe, three months - no way. Boring.

I want the game to be fun for everyone, mids hibs and albs, and one realm hogging the relics is no fun when it goes on for too long. It would be great to take all six at once, but the idea wouldn't be to keep them.

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Gahldir
the fight over Dagda had just begin, so none can make a call who'd have won and who'd have lost. Therefor they haven't deserved a relic yet. And you can't really deserve a relic by making a nice plan.

edit: but sure, the relicraid deserved a better faith then a crash. like an awsome fight

Oh yeah, I didn't mean they should get a relic automatically - but hell that was a damn good plan.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Gordonax
I believe you said you'd rather have three relics for three months. Three months is a hell of a long time in a game that's been around for, what 1.5 years? Three weeks maybe, three months - no way. Boring.

I want the game to be fun for everyone, mids hibs and albs, and one realm hogging the relics is no fun when it goes on for too long. It would be great to take all six at once, but the idea wouldn't be to keep them.

Okay. I'll leave you alone then. You are clearly a fool.

 

[Gordonax]

Yeah, right Pin. Cos the game is all about Albs winning at all costs, and humiliating those damn fools who chose the wrong realm, eh? Oh, and only Albs are allowed to enjoy the game.

Grow up.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Gordonax
Yeah, right Pin. Cos the game is all about Albs winning at all costs, and humiliating those damn fools who chose the wrong realm, eh? Oh, and only Albs are allowed to enjoy the game.

Grow up.

No.

Albs have been without any relics for 6 months now, excepting the 1 week we had str relics last time and the 1 week we have had the relics so far this time.

It's not a question of Albs 'winning', it's not a question of humiliating residents of Hibernia and Midgard. Holding and defending relics is part of the fun of the game.

Why would you want to throw the relics away again after working for months to take them?

You say you want to have fun defending the relics, but don't want to hang on to them?

You say it's fun to try and take the relics, but you want to take that fun away from Mids/Hibs by just giving them the relics back?

You say that holding on to the relics for more than 3 weeks is boring? You clearly have no attention span and should probably take some medication for that. 3 weeks is not a long time. 3 months is not a long time in this game. Hibs have had the power relics for around 10 of the last 12 months. Are they bored of having them?


As I said, due to much of what you posted above I label you a fool, but well, if you want to just stop defending the relics in a couple of weeks in order to give the mids their turn with them again, that's up to you.