hibbie rvr from a point of view id never realised b4

[angrysquirrel]

rvr is cool btw kids

tonight i had so many pms from people saying

"this is the first time ive had rvr in a year"

"ive never lasted so long in emain, ever"
"ding rrxlx"
"ding rrxlx"
etc etc

should do what we did tonight more often and try to help our friends and kill the donkeyfckers / invaders

no im not selling you a brand name or trying to make you turn to religion, its just that i never realised how shit we'd become leaving so many people behind when we should be winning the fight!!!

id rather zerg and win than continually say /as 3-4 fgs albs amg

 

[Nemue]

Even tho i missed the zerg, i totally agree with u.

the obsession for everyone to get the perfect group, and utterly refuse to run with anything except ur own fg has grown to such astronomous proportions its silly.

 

[Shrye]

Wrong, wrong, maybe right, wrong, right, correct, false etc...

It's true that alot of people goes for opted fg vs fg/warderzerg, however NOTHING prevents you from zergling if that's what you guys likes - well, apart from the small thing called "organizers", which tends to go for fg instead of zergling.

But hey! Prove me wrong and go make a zerg, instead of just doing the easy part and cry about it here on FH.

 

[ilaya]

Angry i have been saying this for years now.. albs gonna zerg emain.. we should bloody well zerg back! was WELL fun despite your uber laggyness!

its part of game.. like it or not.. mids do it too.. hibs are just being bloody stupid by thinking we so leet we can take them with 1 fg.

we gonna need practice at zerging though peeps for NF believe me.. wasnt perfect.. but was hell of a lot more fun than standing in dl for hours, getting ganked and then grp splitting and more waiting etc..

lets make emain a hib zone when the alb zerg is out.. and not.. hehe.. Zoysters emain.. did he really say that?

i had fun tonight and so did soo many other hibs who are overlooked in rvr grps.. i want more! lets just do it when it gets nasty and do away with the nasties.. making it safe for rest to do their usual rvr thing

 

[vintervargen]

i just think it will become boring for you after a while, since you (almost) never will have a zerg vs zerg fight with even numbers, it will still be zerg or get zerged.

if you have the greater numbers, it will become a race to get most rps from the enemies. add to that a zerg will never have any real teamwork, another factor that gonna it boring in the long run.

this is just imo, of course.

 

[Boni]

Zerging isnt something I would prefer to do over decent fg rvr, but when emain is overloaded with mids and albs, then hibs need to replace the word 'zerg' for 'cooperate' in their vocabualry. Get our keeps and relics out of danger, and give us DF to supply the realm with cash and decent exp spots.

It's true that alot of people goes for opted fg vs fg/warderzerg, however NOTHING prevents you from zergling if that's what you guys likes - well, apart from the small thing called "organizers", which tends to go for fg instead of zergling.

But hey! Prove me wrong and go make a zerg, instead of just doing the easy part and cry about it here on FH.

My past experience tells me the only thing that prevented hibs zerging/cooperating is the anti-zerging/cooperation theme that a lot of high realm rank players and some guilds did their best to maintain, mainly for selfish reasons, so much so that some groups prefered to goto certain death rather than run with a less able grp.

Angry isnt asking for other people to do it for him, hes arranged plenty of rvr events, if you check the posts here youll find one he organised here for today, arranged yesterday and posted earlier so that kind of proves you wrong as you wrote that.

 

[Boni]

i just think it will become boring for you after a while, since you (almost) never will have a zerg vs zerg fight with even numbers, it will still be zerg or get zerged.

if you have the greater numbers, it will become a race to get most rps from the enemies. add to that a zerg will never have any real teamwork, another factor that gonna it boring in the long run.

this is just imo, of course.

Boring.. hmm, well thats really based on what the player is used to. If you do excellent fg rvr all the time, then perhaps zerging would seem boring. But for a lot of the casual players, rvr at the moment is hours of sitting on DL steps with a few short runs to emain, getting owned at the first sight of enemies, back to sorting replacement bard and druids that will run with non fotm classes.

I think a zerg can have teamwork, its not on the same level as a full group vs full group fight where you are aware of exactly what your group and hopefully the enemies group(s) are doing, but teamwork, leadership, positioning, strong use of f8 all play their part

 

[Ogri]

Been months since I enjoyed myself so much in RvR, and tbh, am gutted that I had to log (work being the plight of this "casual" player).
Thanks to all Hibs, and especially the old HoFers for making last night fun

 

[Aseli]

Lets do fg vs fg fights well we still can cos NF will be all Zerg vs Zerg.

 

[Ogen]

I so agree. That "No we are to leet, we only run 1fg" mentality is stupid. Becouse they cant make me beleive they will win against a 3fg+ warder zerg.
Becouse they wont. Loose some pride fellow hibbies, and lets deal with this evil threats from the north!
Together we shall fight! Together we shall succed!!

Another thing is, if hib are gonna have just the smallest chance of staying upfront in the rankings when NF comes, we have to start learning how to zerg...

This will resolve the "LFG" problem at DL aswell. Might be the meaning of Crock rings? Everybody should come along imo.

 

[Tigersans]

Yippeeee i hope whats being said in this post happens lol, then my Hero can stop shouting LFG for 2 hours and then logging and maybe do some rvr and finally get my 10k for rr5 for the few hours im on.

Might bring the rvr for me back to the game as many other people would agree..

See ya in DL tonight im up for any rvr and if albs and mids zerge, i say zerge the buggers back..

 

[Sheph]

After crunching PvE for months and finalising your char... thinking of a nice strategy and finding some friends to realise it with... its kinda sad to just use numbers to win.

And tbh i had to laugh a bit. People tend to say that powergamers are RP hungry... but zergers seem to be even more!

must... have... rps...

 

[Ogen]

Well zergs might wont bring you as many rps as if you "Could" win some fg vs fg fights indeed. But these days and forward it will be ZERGE! NF is large fight friendly, and the ideer in this game is to zerg. Imo ofc.
And being 3 fgs and beating down 4fg alb warders indeed gives more rps then being farmed by them as a fg.

 

[eSo]

i dislike zerging. i'm one of those guys who enjoy a good 1 fg vs 1 fg fights, no matter if we lose or win. but last few weeks have been terrible. last night for example. we went to emain with 1 fg. got killed by 4-5 fg albs. did another run, tried to avoid amg. but after a while we decided to take a little peek, and what do you know... same albs, i think even some more friends came over. then we went to check odins if we could find some decent fights there. first we got ganked by 3-4 fg mids at amg. next run, same mids, but at hmg. come on hibbies, time to start some serious zerging imo.

 

[Tholus]

I think yesterday was, in my very personal experience, the perfect example of what RvR should be.

I was in a good fg. Good setup, good players.

We fight a couple of decent fg fights. We have fun.

Then we are steamrolled by the zerg.

CG formed, hib counterzerg assembled. Huge battles in Emain. We clear the zerg. We have fun.

We take DC. We have fun.

Now Emain is clear again. We leave the CG, the hib zerg disbands. We have some other good fight as fg before going bed. We have fun.

That's all. Quickly adapt to the situation. Fg fight is boring when the Zerg steamroll you. Zerg is boring after a while.

Adapting, acting quickly, having fun.
Plain and simple.

 

[Gear]

I just want the mile gates clear so I can go to uppland - sauvage!!

 

[Tigersans]

RPS are good yes but i just want FUN which is what game is about if its hib zerge agains alb zerge and we loose and get no rps i still had fun.

At least in a zerge i can get grps if i die but grped with others having a laugh is what the game is about, standing lfg or trying to arrange own grp for 2 hours aint fun ;-(. I dont mind if its FGvFG or Zerge V Zerge im just after some fun with fellow hibbies..

If we cant beat them why be farmed by them just join them and farm them

 

[censi]

the problem is the game dynamics. Zergs are fine as long as theres more than one of them. Theres nothing more disheartening than running out as a FG to get mowed down by a zerg. But if you part of a hib zerg that hits the alb zerg at amg then a nice fight can break out.

However theres absolutly bugger all at stake. one side will get overrun and release and come back again (maybe).

the realms kind of got bored with keep taking years ago and the RVR scene has got a bit stale. There needs to be an in game inscentive to keep take and RVR.

I would suggest that the guild that owns a keep gets a special advantage that varies keep to keep. Like you can summon 3 yellow con guards if you own crouch, etc silly ideas.

I would also love to see some other motivator or theme to RVR additional to keeps.

 

[Jayce]

Becouse they cant make me beleive they will win against a 3fg+ warder zerg.
Becouse they wont.

They can and have, just watch any number of movies ppl have been chucking about, the Dem Hibbies one springs to mind.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, just this 1 point.

 

[Ogen]

Yeah movies .. Maybe a fg of dem hibbies.. And some time ago. but dont ever tell me thats everydays business these last months.

 

[Jimmeh]

"this is the first time ive had rvr in a year"

"ive never lasted so long in emain, ever"
"ding rrxlx"
"ding rrxlx"

was me :wub:

 

[Ronso]

last time I got 'good' rps and good rvr runs was in Vigilance

since then I get random groups which I dont mind but the random groups dont usually do very well ...specially if there is only 1 fg of us ..

Im not all for zerging


Im for counter zerging in phear of our keeps been taken etc . I do however want to run in 2 fgs constantly bar early morning times when it can be quiet..

2 fgs is the norm these days but it seems the hibs havent quite grasped that yet ..stone age here

 

[Ogri]

After crunching PvE for months and finalising your char... thinking of a nice strategy and finding some friends to realise it with... its kinda sad to just use numbers to win.

And tbh i had to laugh a bit. People tend to say that powergamers are RP hungry... but zergers seem to be even more!

must... have... rps...

After 2.5 years of this game, I, for one dont really give a fuck about rps anymore, I just like a crack with the nice lads and lassies of hibernia. And if killing albs n that is the only way to get some of hibs greatest "characters" together and have a laugh, then so be it, even if it does mean zerging.

Fair play to those who have leveled and grinded their toons to perfection, but why the rest of us have to suffer for it is beyond me.

 

[vintervargen]

boni... 'after a while' means in my post maybe rr5 or so, not 10 minutes

once you learn your class, what spells you have and what they do, zerging will become dull; you need a bit more challenge.

 

[Raven]

I think yesterday was, in my very personal experience, the perfect example of what RvR should be.

I was in a good fg. Good setup, good players.

We fight a couple of decent fg fights. We have fun.

Then we are steamrolled by the zerg.

CG formed, hib counterzerg assembled. Huge battles in Emain. We clear the zerg. We have fun.

We take DC. We have fun.

Now Emain is clear again. We leave the CG, the hib zerg disbands. We have some other good fight as fg before going bed. We have fun.

That's all. Quickly adapt to the situation. Fg fight is boring when the Zerg steamroll you. Zerg is boring after a while.

Adapting, acting quickly, having fun.
Plain and simple.

spot on imo, fg vs fg is great and most would rather do that than zerg but at times there is just no other answer except zerg back, it doesnt mean you have to do it all the time but when there are around 100 warders lost around amg we need to clear it with a CG zerg.

 

[angrysquirrel]

thanks for taking the time to reply with your thoughts

 

[Fyric]

Zerging is the last refugee of the incompetent imo.

 

[Hestethun]

i dislike zerging. i'm one of those guys who enjoy a good 1 fg vs 1 fg fights, no matter if we lose or win. but last few weeks have been terrible. last night for example. we went to emain with 1 fg. got killed by 4-5 fg albs. did another run, tried to avoid amg. but after a while we decided to take a little peek, and what do you know... same albs, i think even some more friends came over. then we went to check odins if we could find some decent fights there. first we got ganked by 3-4 fg mids at amg. next run, same mids, but at hmg. come on hibbies, time to start some serious zerging imo.

thats a big moffo lie. u go mostley 2 fgs and tbh u are bigger fucker if u denie it, and to read some hibbie wajning about alb zerg on /as is roflmao when they just crunshed the albs with 3 fgs in amg.

Zerg all u want , but dont come ur fucking dobbel moral and say u like fg vs fg fight when u zerg 99% of the time! :touch:

 

[Raven]

how dare people play the game the way they want to and not the way you want them to

 

[Nuked]

i cant zerg tbh, i just feel useless in a zerg like some random running around doing my best to get the last blow on some random alb/mid i just dont get any fun from that, then again i've never had to wait at DL for a group because i dont stand around i make my own or solo. i prefer to have to work bloody hard for the win, yes i know we zerg in PM but tbh its not the same