Hero Spec And Template..

Ronso

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Hey fellas ..got a hero in the mix and Im just working on his final spec and then getting ready to template around it ...

I was wondering ..

If I went 50 LW / 50 SHIELD / 6 SLASH / REST PARRY

and capped my plus points to slash ..would I a small bit of damage ? working of engage plus reactionary theory for side chain and annihal ...then bk to block mode on that one ..

regardless..50 LW and 50 SHIELD is a must ..how to spec remaining points and why pls ..then ..if you have a good template ..please post for me ..doesnt matter the difficulty ..I dont care how hard it is ..thats not an issue - just post the v.best template you know of and that would be overly appreaciated ..

thanks buddehs :p
 

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well mate i know u said u wanted 50sheild 50 LW but mate is there really ne need for the Additional shield,wat i mean by this is if u are going to be getting anialation u are going to be doing a lot of damage with the LW so basically wat i mean is that u will be only using the actual shield for SLAMMING peeps whipping out 2H MALICE and owning them,and so i was wondering if u would actually need so much in shield,i know you were a very good hero with ronso and so now wat ur on about but my idea was to have 50LW 42shield 39Blades<quick interupt> and 6parry its just imo u dont really spend much time in RvR concentrating on one target <eg engaging etc> more a basic SLAM&ANIALATE role then move to another target etc leave the death spam to casters etc
 

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Hi, I have a 50 Hero so thought I'd give you my opinion.

I am 50 LW, 50 Sheild, 28 Blades, 6 Parry.

In RvR I do most of my damage with my LW, but I Have the high sheild because in an SC Template you will not be able to get great dex or +sheild while wanting to cap your Str and melee/style damage and melee speed.

28 Blades because I don't want to have a bad variance on my 1h melee damage, havign 6 in blades will give you the taunt, but your damage is going to range alot, where as having a few more points specced in it will give you a more regular amount of damage.

Parry, I find I barely ever parry. I normally prefer to fight in group combat so I rarely get the chance to parry. And the only time i block is when I guard or am blocking the millions of arrows from the millions of scouts.

I have been trying to work on an SC so dont have one just yet, but hope the rest of my input helps.
 

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50 LW 42 shield 39 parry 6 blades

If you are BGing someone blades isnt going to do you any good at all, where parry will, despite what some people think, keep you alive longer vs tank trains
The difference between shield skills of 42+11+rr and 50+11+rr is nothing, you do get a pretty nice (for pure s/s tanks) shield skill at 50 (brutalize) but not really worth speccing for imo.

For weapon choice i use malace in 2h and a crafted sword and shield, this gives me the option of using a small or large shield, depending on the situation.

With the above spec i wouldnt worry about capping +parry in your temp, 39+5/6+rr is enough really. (aim for around 50 effective)

This is the way i have done it and it suits my playstyle of mixed solo and grouping, at the end of the day go for a spec that suits you.
 

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50 LW 42 shield 39 parry 6 blades

and tech, pm me on msn or irc :E
 

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start postings templates >.<
 

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going with 50 lw 50 shield regardless ..now someone suggest a template :(
 

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TriggerHappy said:
well mate i know u said u wanted 50sheild 50 LW but mate is there really ne need for the Additional shield,wat i mean by this is if u are going to be getting anialation u are going to be doing a lot of damage with the LW so basically wat i mean is that u will be only using the actual shield for SLAMMING peeps whipping out 2H MALICE and owning them,and so i was wondering if u would actually need so much in shield,i know you were a very good hero with ronso and so now wat ur on about but my idea was to have 50LW 42shield 39Blades<quick interupt> and 6parry its just imo u dont really spend much time in RvR concentrating on one target <eg engaging etc> more a basic SLAM&ANIALATE role then move to another target etc leave the death spam to casters etc
1st of all u DO need + shield , only thing in my new template that i have full+points on are shield/lw , damage with slash aint an issue , u only go 28 slash/6 parry as opposed to vice versa because u have higher ws and therefore will slam more often .
2ndly 42 shield is not an option for a hero , Thats my 2 cents
 

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Ronso said:
start postings templates >.<
Not a chance :p

Cant have noobs running around in fotm templates xD

Aim for a clever temp where u cap all depending if u usin lw or s/s

My temp has +22 dex +25 str +100hp +6 qui +6 con and capped melee bonus , pm me ingame buddy and ill email it to u :eek7:
 

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Punishment said:
u only go 28 slash/6 parry as opposed to vice versa because u have higher ws and therefore will slam more often .
Nope, thats just rubbish.
 

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Raven said:
50 LW 42 shield 39 parry 6 blades

If you are BGing someone blades isnt going to do you any good at all, where parry will, despite what some people think, keep you alive longer vs tank trains
The difference between shield skills of 42+11+rr and 50+11+rr is nothing, you do get a pretty nice (for pure s/s tanks) shield skill at 50 (brutalize) but not really worth speccing for imo.
Agree.
 

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Punishment said:
1st of all u DO need + shield , only thing in my new template that i have full+points on are shield/lw , damage with slash aint an issue , u only go 28 slash/6 parry as opposed to vice versa because u have higher ws and therefore will slam more often .
2ndly 42 shield is not an option for a hero , Thats my 2 cents
Posted by Novamir in another Thread:

Your base BLOCK RATE is calculated from SHIELD SKILL + DEX. Your chance to block an opponent is calculated by what weapon they are using (dual wield/2hander), their weaponskill and the style they are using.

'TO-HIT' CHANCE is unaffected by Weaponskill.

CHANCE TO LAND SLAM on an opponent in RvR (after basic 'to-hit' calculations) is based on YOUR SHIELD SKILL+YOUR DEX vs their defense (evade, parry or block).

Having been almost every hero spec, I concluded that there is a 'hidden' shield WS, which is governed by SHIELD SPEC and your DEX. This was based on 3 levels of 1hand spec (6/28/50) and 2 levels of shield spec (42/50) and the three dex spec levels (unbuffed/base buffed/base and spec buffed). I swung between 6-> 28 -> 6 1hand pre-toa (a couple of times) and did 6-> 50-> 6 1hand post-toa. If there is a difference in RvR slamming with different 1h skill, I have never noticed it.

SHIELD DAMAGE is calculated from your shield spec, your dex, the size(speed) of shield (4.2ish spd for largest one), obviously DPS of shield and the style bonus.

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Can't explain it better :D
 

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ty fellas ..and now ..for a template ..that doesnt have a flippin spear in it ..ice ..share ure god damn template ..post haste.. :(
 

TriggerHappy

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mate just get an old template and work on it its wat i did and im pretty happy with result
 

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Ronso said:
ty fellas ..and now ..for a template ..that doesnt have a flippin spear in it ..ice ..share ure god damn template ..post haste.. :(
My Templates are for pure S/S Heros!


Config Report

Stats

Str: 83 Int: 0 Hits: 212
Con: 87 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 94 Cha: 0
Qui: 47 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 26 Crush: 29 (2)
Cold: 24 Matter: 23 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 31 (5) Slash: 29 (3)

Skills

11 Shield

3 Large Weaponry

3 Piercing

10 Parry

3 Celtic Spear

3 Blunt

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dex

80 Hits

8 Str

16 Con

Other Bonuses

35 AF Bonus

4 Melee Damage Bonus

13 Fatigue

5 Melee Speed Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Gem 4: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Utility: 63.67

Arms
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Gem 2: 3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
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Head
Name: Zahurs Crown
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Effect 2: 8 Fatigue
Effect 3: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
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Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Legs
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Gem 3: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 4: 2 Parry - 99 uncut Vapor Battle Jewel
Utility: 61.33

Hands
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Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
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Gem 3: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
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Feet
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Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99 faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 4 Parry - 99 flawed Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Utility: 65.67

Right Hand
Name: Bane of Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus:
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Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 6 Thrust Resist
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Effect 10: Empty
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Left Hand
Name: Magma Defender
Level: 51 Quality: 100
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Effect 2: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Shield
Effect 4: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
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Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Two Handed
Name: Spear of Kings (Hib) (cs)
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DPS: 16.50 Bonus:
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Effect 2: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 4 Body Resist
Effect 6: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
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Ranged
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Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
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Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Cloak
Name: Mantle of Desert Shadow
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35%
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 20.00

Jewel
Name: Dream Sphere
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35%
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 15 AF Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 5 Body Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35%
Effect 1: 22 Strength
Effect 2: 22 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Right Ring
Name: Ring of Seven Storms
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Parry
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.67

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Silent Oblivion
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 24 Constitution
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Effect 4: 7 Matter Resist
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Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
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Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
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Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Band of Stars
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35%
Effect 1: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 5 Body Resist
Effect 3: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00



Thats my current one, made with the Items i had in my Vault. :eek6:
 

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Boni said:
Nope, thats just rubbish.
Dont be so dismissive >< , tbh having 6 blades is retarded and anyone who has had this spec has changed to 28 1h 6 parry , parry is a self defensive skill only +tank assists dont go for the shieldtank , imo 50 shield all the way anything else aint grp friendly <42 shield is a reaver/champ shield spec>
Regardless if u have BG or not :D

If a person wanted to go down the high parry/shield road make a shieldmaster ^^
 

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Well for RvR i would suggest 50LW/CS 42 Shield 39parry 6,1h.
you only use 1h for distract anyways and LW/CS for dmg.
 

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42 shield :(

Next time a caster is arrowed through his/her guard ..... now u know why

Parry ftw it seems :/
 

Boni

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Punishment said:
Dont be so dismissive >< , tbh having 6 blades is retarded and anyone who has had this spec has changed to 28 1h 6 parry , parry is a self defensive skill only +tank assists dont go for the shieldtank , imo 50 shield all the way anything else aint grp friendly <42 shield is a reaver/champ shield spec>
Regardless if u have BG or not :D

If a person wanted to go down the high parry/shield road make a shieldmaster ^^
Sorry mate, but I have to be so dismissive, what you said about blades affecting slam rate is pure BOLLOCKS, and for the sake of other heros I feel its my duty to point that out.

As for parry, well what you said was true pre-TOA but now a hero can defend without resorting to s/s all the time...

a). Parry helps you defend, and in turn if you have BG helps you defend your squishy while still dealing decent dmg with a high weaponskill (2h weapon).

b). Ever seen a decent tank use Dashing defence? Parry for your group for 1min is nice.

I would rather have decent parry with my 2h weapon than a little extra blades weaponskill which isnt any use while weilding my primary weapon and doesnt help my team-mates the way parry can.

mmkay?
 

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