Heretic FAQ

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Tis a bit old and rusty, but thought this might be of use to some:

Authored by Fingoniel, with input from all the closed Beta testers. I bring to you the Guide to Heresy, 1.0!

1. What races can be Heretics?
Briton, Inconnu, Avalonian

2. What's the "best" race for Heretics?
Briton is overall best statwise aside from casting speed.
Inconnu will have the same hp, same flex weaponskill, lower crush weaponskill, slower attacks, faster casting.
Avalonian will have less hp, less flex and crush weaponskill, faster melee attacks, same cast speed as briton.

2.5. What base class is a Heretic?
Acolyte

3. What type of armour and shields do Heretics get?
Cloth armour and small shields from level 5. Ability to wear leather is lost upon becoming a heretic.

4. What other abilities do Heretics get?
Tireless at 15

5. What stats do heretics get as they level?
pie/dex/con

6. What stat affects heretic damage?
Piety for spells
Strength or strength/dex for melee depending on weapon type.

7. What speclines do Heretics get?
Rejuv, Enhance, Shield, Flex, Crush

8. Do heretics get Leviathan?
If you spec 50 flex.

9. Do heretics get engage and guard?
If they spec shield, same as any other shield spec.

11. What about the parry reactional styles in flex/crush?
The parry reactional styles are block reactionals for heretics.

12. How many spec points do heretics get?
2.0 per level.

13. Can heretics rez?
Heretics get a baseline ressurection spell at level 10 and a specline at 41 in rejuv.

14. What do I get for speccing Rejuv?
As well as reducing baseline heal variances rejuv specline has the offensive spells:
Focus DD
Focus DD/snare (50% snare, unbreakable whilst focus is held)
Focus effectiveness debuff+snare+attack speed debuff
AoE Focus DD/snare (50% snare)
Uninterruptable from range Focus DD
Instant cast DoT
Instant cast snare (50% snare, unbreakable for first 5 seconds)
Monster Ressurection - ressurect a dead realm-mate as a poison-spitting zombie.

All spells are heat damage.

15. Can i cast the instants on the move?
No you must be standing still to cast the instants.

16. What is all this focus about?
Get a target and cast the spell - as long as the target stays in range/los and you aren't interrupted the spell keeps hitting them every 3 seconds. The damage of the dd spells increases each tick.

17. How long do the focus spells last?
They can last up to a maximum of 30 seconds.

18. Do the focus spells interrupt? or are they like DoTs interrupting only on the first tick?
Focus DD's interrupt every tick.

19. Isn't it a bit hard to stay uninterrupted for that long?
In tight corners use the uninterruptable from range version.

20. Do Heretics get cure poison/disease?
No, they do not.

21. Do we get any baseline absorb buffs?
Yes - at level 9 and 21 you receive 5% and 10% absorb buffs in the baseline.

22. What do I get for speccing enhance?
As well as improving your base buffs you get:
Self Str/Con buff
Self Damage Add
Self Absorb buffs (up to 30% absorb at 49)
Self AF buff (up to ??? at 50)
Self Resist Piercing buff
Concentration-based Damage shield
Group damage shield
group reactive proc buff shear

23. How do I spec my Heretic?
For spell damage - Rejuv
For survivability - Enhance
For melee blocking/guarding/slamming - Shield
For anytime melee damage - Crush
For positional/reactive melee damage - Flex

24. What's better? flex or crush?
If high enhance spec, weaponskill will be higher self-buffed with crush.
However dex is a rising stat, strength is not, so flex weaponskill will be higher if low enhance specced or if you obtain a dex/qui buff.

25. What ML paths can a Heretic choose?

Banelord or Perfecter.

26. Do heretics get any unique weapon styles in flex/crush?
Other than the reactive requirements being different, no.
 

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'Focus DD
Focus DD/snare (50% snare, unbreakable whilst focus is held)
Focus effectiveness debuff+snare+attack speed debuff
AoE Focus DD/snare (50% snare)
Uninterruptable from range Focus DD
Instant cast DoT
Instant cast snare (50% snare, unbreakable for first 5 seconds)
Monster Ressurection - ressurect a dead realm-mate as a poison-spitting zombie.'

Can obviously tell Mythic want new players and so they give the new classes alot of utility Oo
 

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I just wish Heretics were as good as they looked in RvR :)

If you want uber play an Iwinlock ;)
 

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Though hopfully the 1.75 nerf to hexing is going someway to address this.
 

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I've heard that the best classes in catacombs are Vampiirs, Warlocks and Bainshees, alot of people I know are saying that Heretics and Valkryies are useless, or is this not true?
 

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heretics are far from useless, they're not an "i pwn j00" class like warlocks though.

Vampiirs are lethal in the bgs and on PvP as they effectively have a buffbot for free, not really sure how nasty they are in RvR.

Bainshee have some dodgy overlapping effects that'll get a nerf but they're otherwise just an aoe caster.

Warlocks already have one nerf inc ;) they may get more :p

valkyries aren't anywhere near as gimp as people say but people think they're thanes...
 

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well, atleast one good thing hereitc bring to mids, bones focus aesnare was fixed immediatly when alb got same spell, didnt take too long, 2 years?

valk isnt near gimp peeps say?.
hmmm so what make valk better comparing hhmm example thane?
i have check stats different way and still gona make one valkyrie, just for intresting, and didnt find anything what rise valkyrie over thane.
valkyrie probably is/was great class but only if it was up when daoc launched 1st time, not anymore.

personally aiming something
50 spear, 48 ow, 30 or 31 parry and rest to shield.
 

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Tuppe said:
well, atleast one good thing hereitc bring to mids, bones focus aesnare was fixed immediatly when alb got same spell, didnt take too long, 2 years?
I could be cynical and point out that it probably took BDs 2 years to figure out that there were other spells than Summon Bone Commander, Summon Healer and instalifetap 4tw!!!one1
 

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really? :D
prolly cleric needed smitenerf to realise they was realms mainhealer :D

hmm and btw, when personally played i used alott realm castable abs buff, bonearmy lines baselines dot, pet heals, dark baseline dd, root.
nowday when bonearmy specced, baseline dot, ba dot, root, petbuffs.
in my memory supp line was alott more buttons to press comparing spec i have now :)
 

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Tuppe said:
really? :D
prolly cleric needed smitenerf to realise they was realms mainhealer :D

hmm and btw, when personally played i used alott realm castable abs buff, bonearmy lines baselines dot, pet heals, dark baseline dd, root.
nowday when bonearmy specced, baseline dot, ba dot, root, petbuffs.
in my memory supp line was alott more buttons to press comparing spec i have now :)
Hmm:

lifetap
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i heard you can strip the dot thingy from a monster rezzed person using ml10 battlemaster skills, thus rendering it pretty useless.
 

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what starting stats do ppl think it is good to put points in?
 

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Tuppe said:
valk isnt near gimp peeps say?.
hmmm so what make valk better comparing hhmm example thane?
i have check stats different way and still gona make one valkyrie, just for intresting, and didnt find anything what rise valkyrie over thane.
valkyrie probably is/was great class but only if it was up when daoc launched 1st time, not anymore.

personally aiming something
50 spear, 48 ow, 30 or 31 parry and rest to shield.
Well, my valkyrie will be 43 casting, 47 sword, 42 shield. With that spec she should be able to fill many roles in a group - guard (altho no BG), interupter, assist train slammer, backup res etc. She definetly wont work as a warrior/thane tho since she is alot more offensive in nature then they are in a fg situation - she doesnt have good'ish ranged damage capacity really, like a thane can have, so she will want to be assisting in melee most of the time while interupting casters. She also has a good group offensive proc that will help a tank heavy grp alot - thats where i see her. She wont bring as much to a caster heavy group, and maybe that is what people percieve as bad with her since there are more caster heavy groups today.

Sorry for going offtopic Flim :)
 

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