here we go, again, ffs

[Mabs]

A man has been shot at Stockwell Tube station by armed police officers

bbc clicky

getting a bit old tbh, hope it sorts out soon

uke:

 

[Dakkath]

Well, if that report is to be believed then something extremely strange happened there...

How many times have you heard of police tackling a target, forcing him to the ground, jumping on top then unloading 5 shots into him while he's trapped...

Sounds like they had him flagged as a suicide bomber...

 

[Mabs]

they now reporting armed police surrounding a mosque in east london

 

[Stunned]

Im moving to Jordheim irl.

 

[Sissyfoo]

I'm gonna bleach my skin tbh!!

And shave my beard tbh!!

And bleach my hair tbh!!

 

[Marc]

I'm gonna bleach my skin tbh!!

And shave my beard tbh!!

And bleach my hair tbh!!

I wish i could grow a proper beard :<

 

[Ezteq]

gah, thats horrible whats with all this aggro now though? i mean we've been untouched by it all and now all of a sudden its all happening, good point there dakkath about him being a possible suicide bomber tbh thats the only thing i can think of as to why they made so sure he was dead.

lets hope this is the end of it. Realistically lets hope future attacks fail.

have to say this though previously i was really worried about camera phones being misused etc etc but they have really shown their worth now.

 

[Lamp]

Armed police don't shoot to injure. Shoot to kill. Quite rightly so.

 

[Job]

Holy crap

Note to everybody who looks or IS Asian or Arabic.

don't carry a rucksack or wear a padded jacket or we WILL shoot you on sight.

Where is this all going, surely every Arab in this country will be a suspect,people will start moving to other carriages when they get on a train or demanding they open their bag/coat before they get on, maybe it's happening allready.

Exactly how does this help their cause, in anyway on any level?

I for one would ask any Arab with a big jacket or a rucksack to prove he isn't a bomber if he want's to get on with me, of course if he was he would just press the button, so basically fuck off and don't even bother turning up at the station.

It only takes a few bad apples to spoil it for everyone, Muslims have got to sort this shit out for themselves or face a backlash of gigantic proportions.

Arabs/Muslims and Islam will be remembered in this century for nothing but religious extremism and terrorism, nothing else they do will matter, every single goddam non-arab/muslim onthe planet thinks they are all potential nutballs and they do NOTHING to counter this view, just a few sad old disconnected 'leaders' trot out and say 'killing is bad' then fade away.

 

[Sissyfoo]

What can they do? These people are devoted to their beliefs and I don't think all the muslims in the world are going to make them change their minds.

In addition to my above post, I have also decided to become a full-time nudist. Police and women across the world will be delighted to see that the only package I'm carrying isn't a bomb, it's a rocket. Hur hur.

 

[Job]

It must be awful, I get a very small version of it as soon as I say I'm from Liverpool, you can see their faces, they're thinking I'd better hide my phone, or 'don't leave him alone in the house' or they make the usual 'steal my car wheels' joke.

All rather tiresome, but it's because there ARE loads of thieving scallies in Liverpool you just have to accept it, but I tell you now I have NEVER seen a guy with black permed hair and a moustache going 'hhheeeeeyyy'.
Where did that stereotype come from?
Shaved head and a lacoste tracky tucked into black socks going 'ayy laaa' is a better one.

 

[Ezteq]

i was on the bus earlier in the week (i dont live in london) and a bunch of arabic looking students got on laughing and joking they spotted someone they knew and stood about chatting and generally having a nice time.

i wasnt scared of them, actually it's always nice to see people having fun, but jesus i was scared For them, they were students so they all had rucksacks one of them was playing with his phone and i had a horrible thought of the kind of fear and loathing these guys were going to face if things esculate, god knows what it must be like for the ones living in london at the moment.

on another note just saw a news report that showed the guys in shepards bush who couldnt get home last night all having an impromptu street party! was excellant to see them all clubbing together and making the best of a bad situation, couldnt find a link anywhere but they also said theres a webby "we're not afraid" or something where people are posting a message of strength.

 

[Marc]

http://www.werenotafraid.com/

 

[Sissyfoo]

It must be awful, I get a very small version of it as soon as I say I'm from Liverpool, you can see their faces, they're thinking I'd better hide my phone, or 'don't leave him alone in the house' or they make the usual 'steal my car wheels' joke.

All rather tiresome, but it's because there ARE loads of thieving scallies in Liverpool you just have to accept it, but I tell you now I have NEVER seen a guy with black permed hair and a moustache going 'hhheeeeeyyy'.
Where did that stereotype come from?
Shaved head and a lacoste tracky tucked into black socks going 'ayy laaa' is a better one.

I was in bournemouth town last weekend when a couple of scousers (shaved head, heavily booted, romper-stomper types) came up to me and asked me if I was a jew and I was, like, umm...no. Then they harrassed me for five minutes asking me if I wanted a penny before I finally defused the situation by changing the subject and we talked about something else for a few mins before they told me I was a nice guy, gave me a handshake and walked off.

Ten minutes later I am at the taxi rank waiting to go home when a group of S. American students came up to wait with me. All of a sudden these two same scousers appear on the other side of the road hurling the most god awful racial abuse at us, telling us that they were going to 'cut our suicide bombing throats' and 'rape our daughters and then kill them' and so on and so on. These poor students looked totally disgusted and freaked and made a quick exit leaving me to suffer the abuse by myself until my taxi turned up.

Ah, such fun times we live in.

 

[Ssera]

Well, if that report is to be believed then something extremely strange happened there...

How many times have you heard of police tackling a target, forcing him to the ground, jumping on top then unloading 5 shots into him while he's trapped...

Sounds like they had him flagged as a suicide bomber...

If you believe the guy has a bomb strapped to himself and is willing to blow it up, then when you shoot you make sure you shoot to kill, and to kill as quickly as possible. If you need to take 5 shots to do it then so be it.

The real question is were they sure this guy was going to blow himself up? If so, how did they know? If not, why shoot him?

 

[Dillinja]

This is what London gets for celebrating 'multiculturalism'.

 

[Sissyfoo]

If you believe the guy has a bomb strapped to himself and is willing to blow it up, then when you shoot you make sure you shoot to kill, and to kill as quickly as possible. If you need to take 5 shots to do it then so be it.

The real question is were they sure this guy was going to blow himself up? If so, how did they know? If not, why shoot him?

The thing I don't get is that if he *was* going to blow himself up, why did he wait until they were all on top of him? He was in a crowded train/tube and had a good few seconds to activate the device. If you knew you were going to be captured before you reached your target it stands to reason that you would detonate before being caught or shot whilst you still had the opportunity to cause some damage.

Assuming that was the case, of course. It probably wasn't.

 

[Ormorof]

This is what London gets for celebrating 'multiculturalism'.

was wondering how long it would take for an answer like that

theres millions of muslims in the world yes? theres not millions of suicide bombers ? so that surely means not all muslims are suicide bombers and a statement like that is the biggest load of bollox you could POSSIBLY come out with

and theres just as many extremist christians in the states tbh, just that they go kill people in other countries with the state rather than small scale "terrorists"

and no im not saying that what these guys are doing is a good thing im just saying that the kind of comment made is hardly going to help anything

 

[Ezteq]

saw on the news about how they were using low capacity bullits so as to avoid collatoral damage so it may have taken 5 shots to take him down.

Sissyfoo im so sorry about what happened to you i live in bournemouth and i dont go out at night if i can help it, people like that make me feel really ashamed of this country.

 

[Sissyfoo]

Don't worry about it, Ez. I came to the conclusion that people are, for the most part, complete c**ts. I think it was sometime after my 10th birthday.

I'm off to Poole tonight which is even less sophisticated than bournemouth so I am interested to see what, if anything, happens!

 

[Ezteq]

Yay if its still there go to the viking club on the sea front (above aquarium) be sure to wear a stab vest but last time i went had a great night.










[note to self, recommend viking club for daoc rl meet up in future]


[p.s make sure it hasnt had licence revoked, or burnt down first]

 

[Sissyfoo]

Sounds like my kinda place; no knife, no vest, no service! I don't mind where we go as long as it isn't the Lord Wimbourne as people have been stabbed and drugged (roofie colada anyone?) when I have been there. Nice place. The food sucks, the beer sucks, the music is wank and it is chav central...but all my friends love to go there for some reason. Douchers.

 

[Job]

This is all just the Crusades played out in a modern setting, everyone rolls their eyes when that is said, but to the Arab world it is still very much their recent history to them and the atrocities from that time still fuel hatred.

The west forgot about it hundreds of years ago and we can't see the connection with us bombing their cities and invading their countries.

Every bomb isolates the Arabs more and every death builds up a consensus of opinion against them, they are allready 2 countries down since 9/11, what will it take for us to invade a few more? Possibly another big attack on the States.

As an aethiest I believe a religous belief is proof you are well up for brainwashing anyway and 'take this bomb' is that much of a next step.

 

[Raven]

what people need to understand is that these nutjobs arent real muslims, they are fanatical head cases, true muslims dont go around blowing people up, its against thier faith.

 

[Bugz]

British Police do not kill on sight without making assumptions (and very accurate ones at that since often a bad call by them could affect them for the rest of their lifes).

I think it's essential we send out a message to these terrorists that Britain isn't going to let them get away with this. We will shoot down, destory and evade any attempts to kill innocent bystanders.

Good on them!

 

[Job]

How funny that they keep saying what you would assume to be rather obvious that their Religion doesn't condone killing people (which would kinda make the religion a bit aggressive wouldn't it?)

It DOES say it's OK to kill people in the Qoran, it actively supports the killing of infidels..as in non-believers of Islam, it's frekin written in there and if you say anything bad about it, they put a frekin fatwad onyer head or whatever.

IT SAYS IN THEIR HOLY BOOK THAT IT'S NOT JUST OK, BUT DESIRABLE THAT INFIDELS WHO DON'T CONVERT TO ISLAM SHOULD BE KILLED.

They teach this shit in those extremist school, but they're not making it up, it's there in the bleedin Qoran!

 

[Deepfat]

Yeah but it says in the Bible to burn witches!

Point is most people realise that as society changes we leave parts of religious teachings that go against a more civilised, mature culture behind and we all progress together towards a happier world for all people regardless of race, creed and religious background.

Some nutters beleive "the word of God as written" (who wrote the word of God - a human being maybe???) is inviolate and take every passage literally. These are the dangerous ones imho...

 

[Job]

Well yes it does, and how quickly would we jump on their heads if extremist Christians started going round labelling people witches and burning them.

Don't see much of that from Muslims, when's the last time they handed over one of their own looneys, the quite simple fact is they tolerate them in their midst.

I'll stop now, cos this is heading towards religous hatred, I'll let the unfolding events stir that up by itself.

 

[Marc]

Read the 10 commandments. They are hard not to break. Ive broken all bar 1 and 6. I mean, if you borrow your next door neighbours saw and forget to return it, technically you are in violation of commandment 10. I swore at my mother once, so i guess thats a violation of number 5 and everyone at some point when they stub their toe is gonna scream "jesus christ that hurt" so bang goes number 3.

 

[Rookiescot]

Thing you gotta remember ... given the current circumstances .. is that armed policeman had a nano second to decide if that person was a threat and was gonna detonate a bomb.
And if you are gonna open fire then you gotta open fire with the intent to kill.
5 shots makes utter sense to me..... 2 in the chest and 2 in the head.
Thats how poeple who use firearms are trained to operate.
Though where the 5'th round went is anyones guess. Was probably his first shot and was only a sighter.
WE need to remember that this policeman (or policewoman) acted in what they saw as the best interests of the public at THAT time.
I am happy to say that the British police are NOT trigger happy morons out for kicks.
I am also happy to say that it is a VERY small minority of Muslims who are disafected with the Western world.
The VAST majority of Muslims living in this country are by far and away the most law abiding people you could ever wish to meet.