Help my friend

[Clown]

A friend of mine is having some problems connecting to different servers.

the scenario -

2 computers on a network connected through a router (fully configured). computer A is me, B is the other one.

A can connect fine, always has done. B could connect before but upgraded to xp pro.

B can no longet connect.

the only thing that changed is windows version. windows fully updated. all conditions are PERFECT (B settings same as A exactly)

so, anyone have a clue why B cannot connect since getting xp pro?

 

[djpringle]

I guess the machines can talk to each other?

 

[Cyfr]

If they are both exactly the same, dosnt B need an IP address of its own?

 

[Covenant]

A friend of mine is having some problems connecting to different servers.

the scenario -

2 computers on a network connected through a router (fully configured). computer A is me, B is the other one.

A can connect fine, always has done. B could connect before but upgraded to xp pro.

B can no longet connect.

the only thing that changed is windows version. windows fully updated. all conditions are PERFECT (B settings same as A exactly)

so, anyone have a clue why B cannot connect since getting xp pro?

Have you checked that the new XP upgrade isn't running the XP ICF (Internet Connection Firewall)? That's the first thing I'd look at.

 

[Clown]

He says there isn't any firewall or anything enabled. Computer B is set up exactly the same as computer A, but it wont connect

 

[TdC]

rofl

 

[Whipped]

I'm getting a strange case of deja-vu here

 

[Covenant]

He says there isn't any firewall or anything enabled. Computer B is set up exactly the same as computer A, but it wont connect

Presumably you both have different IP addresses, otherwise you'd know about it. Check the gateway settings of each PC by opening a cmd shell and typing route print.

The output should be similar to this:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
  (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
  
  I:\>route print
  ===========================================================================
  Interface List
  0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
  0x2 ...00 08 02 e3 2d a4 ...... Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller - Pac
  ket Scheduler Miniport
  0x3 ...00 0c f1 2a 9f e8 ...... Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapt
  er - Packet Scheduler Miniport
  0x4 ...00 20 e0 86 51 41 ...... Bluetooth LAN Access Server Driver - Packet Sche
  duler Miniport
  ===========================================================================
  ===========================================================================
  Active Routes:
  Network Destination	    Netmask	Gateway	   Interface  Metric
0.0.0.0					  0.0.0.0	  192.168.20.10 192.168.20.163	 20
12.130.12.35			  255.255.255.255	192.168.20.16 192.168.20.163	 1
127.0.0.0				   255.0.0.0	 127.0.0.1	 127.0.0.1	 1
 164.109.92.167		   255.255.255.255 192.168.20.16 192.168.20.163	 1
 192.168.20.0			  255.255.255.0 192.168.20.163 192.168.20.163	 20
 192.168.20.163		   255.255.255.255	 127.0.0.1	 127.0.0.1	 20
 192.168.20.255		   255.255.255.255 192.168.20.163 192.168.20.163	 20
224.0.0.0				   240.0.0.0 192.168.20.163 192.168.20.163	 20
 255.255.255.255		 255.255.255.255 192.168.20.163			 3	 1
 255.255.255.255		 255.255.255.255 192.168.20.163 192.168.20.163	 1
 255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255 192.168.20.163			 4	 1
  Default Gateway:	 192.168.20.10
  ===========================================================================
  Persistent Routes:
    None

Note the 0.0.0.0 entry at the top. Check that this is identical except for the interface address (which should be PC B's own IP). This tells the PC where to send non-local subnet traffic. Change the IP settings if this is not the case.

Assuming the above is fine, can you ping/browse each other?

If that works, check DNS.

Oh, and check that the RJ45 cable is plugged in...

 

[Covenant]

I'm getting a strange case of deja-vu here

...should I be trying to help, then? Or is this a windup?

 

[Insane]

Check the gateway settings of each PC by opening a cmd shell and typing route print.

nice way to confuse things there with the route print command.

its easier just to run CMD and type IPCONFIG for the info

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : MSHOME.NET
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

ideally when you type that command you should see similar to the following, if it starts with 169 then Windows cant see the DHCP server and has automatically configured itself as a strange IP address.

the usual networky questions apply here to troubleshoot:
Is the router configured to act as a DHCP server?
Are you able to ping computer1 from Computer2? (if you have a right IP address)
Are there lights on the back of the network card to indicate connection?
Is the cable connected firmly into the back of both Network card and Router/Switch?
Is the network card detected by Windows?

run though those first, if its not picking up an IP address try giving it a static one which matches the rest of the network.

 

[Covenant]

There would have been less in there if the edit timeout on the boards wasn't shorter than it takes to edit the crap microsoft text parsing.

And it's hardly confusing if you follow the instructions given Besides, I try to avoid M$ on the desktop, so that's just the way I do things

 

[Clown]

...should I be trying to help, then? Or is this a windup?

Only help if you want to... it's just my friend asked for help on some forum but the forum moderator was a fuck head Nazi although I'm sure he was just doing his job...


Keep the ideas coming, they are much appreciated.

 

[Covenant]

Only help if you want to... it's just my friend asked for help on some forum but the forum moderator was a fuck head Nazi although I'm sure he was just doing his job...


Keep the ideas coming, they are much appreciated.

No worries, just the previous replies produced some trepidation...

 

[.Wilier.]

No worries, just the previous replies produced some trepidation...

I suspect TdC's giggle was at Windows giving problems tbh, rather than Clown asking for help.

 

[Teren]

Hmm.... doesn't this (https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=20129) thread look familiar?
And about the Nazi thing... isn't that a personal insult to Xavier then?

 

[TdC]

I suspect TdC's giggle was at Windows giving problems tbh, rather than Clown asking for help.

well, both. as I'm nasty atm, and will be for another two weeks or so. Clown's request is reasonably legal in forum terms, and the person he's asking for should have used his head a bit more before the original post.

 

[Xavier]

Well, Clown, you obviously think you're above the normal forum rules... see you in 5 days. Thread closed.


Xav