Help for albs :)

[Hatt]

After reading your whine for like 3 months i feel a bit sorry for you.
so here is your new fotm group. Based on my own experiences

2 Clerics, 1 pala, 1 mincer, 1 sorc , 2-3mercs , 0-1 arms.

try mez.
Use DEBUFF. (=win)
Hmm.. paladin.. GUARDS clerics / sorc... mm and.. slam enemy support if you got chance (otherwise mincer stuns).. Don't attack, paladins are pretty useless :/.
mercs use SNARE styles or try get pf off on enemy support.
Sos if you get bad start,,
Clerics heals ofc. Dont.. stun.. tanks.

and yea.. good luck

 

[BidAccount]

And sadly still only has half - third the defense or damage of a mid healer/savage group.

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
And sadly still only has half - third the defense or damage of a mid healer/savage group.

a good alb grp with capable ppl has no probs with savage grps :> (or shouldnt have any!)

 

[BidAccount]

A mid melee groups weakness is magic.

Try matching mercs against savages and see what happens.

 

[Hatt]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
A mid melee groups weakness is magic.

Try matching mercs against savages and see what happens.

Please nuke me.. 60% in all resists.. hurts so much

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Hatt
After reading your whine for like 3 months i feel a bit sorry for you.
so here is your new fotm group. Based on my own experiences

2 Clerics, 1 pala, 1 mincer, 1 sorc , 2-3mercs , 0-1 arms.

try mez.
Use DEBUFF. (=win)
Hmm.. paladin.. GUARDS clerics / sorc... mm and.. slam enemy support if you got chance (otherwise mincer stuns).. Don't attack, paladins are pretty useless :/.
mercs use SNARE styles or try get pf off on enemy support.
Sos if you get bad start,,
Clerics heals ofc. Dont.. stun.. tanks.

and yea.. good luck

isnt that a standard Alb Tank group ? dont tell me excal\albs never use that setup ?

 

[BidAccount]

OK - more specifically BOF *2 plus magic (inc debuffs, disease etc.)

Savage = 1k damage round. Merc = 2-300. Spot the difference anyone?

 

[old.Atrox]

dont forget the magic /assist command. Thats the only way to beat a Savage group ( Savage with 360 capped Evade, 3/4 attackers = not capped Avade rate anymore )

 

[Jiggs]

cleric 41r 35e
cleric 41r 23s 26e
armsman 50sl 50sh
sorcerer 44m 31b
minstrel 50i 43sl
paladin 42sh end5 chant
armsman either full pole or full 2hd
merc 50t 50dw

merc can be slash also but its nice to have a blend of dmg types (ie 2hd slash 1hdslash and a dw thrust, or a thrust pole/2hd)

clerics assign themselves to on one of the shield tanks each, when ur under attack u need to get to your tank asap for guard.

sorc u save if possible but it has to be expendable (my advice is mezz/debuff and then RUN like the wind!!)

to beat a mid savage group you need: 2x BoF 2x MoC 2xRaging Power 1xSoS 2xSoldiers Barricade 1xPrevent Flight on merc and _all_ tanks MUST have det 4/5

hibs are in alot of ways harder *if* they see u first and manage to lull, if you jump hibs tho its normally pretty easy unless all the pbaoe casters have purge/MoC up..

3mercs just doesnt work, its always better to have a mix of arms/mercs in my experience..

 

[froler-mid]

Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by old.Atrox
isnt that a standard Alb Tank group ? dont tell me excal\albs never use that setup ?

nope, NEVER, what is /asssist?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Hatt]

Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by old.Atrox
isnt that a standard Alb Tank group ? dont tell me excal\albs never use that setup ?

No point to do this thread.. if they did

 

[Pin]

Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by old.Atrox
isnt that a standard Alb Tank group ? dont tell me excal\albs never use that setup ?

We do, but most are

2 Smite Clerics
1 2h paladin
1 Stealth Minstrel
1 Matter Sorc
2 Shield+Parry Mercs
1 X-bow Armsman

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Savage = 1k damage round. Merc = 2-300. Spot the difference anyone?

You seriously need to get some clues about the game.

 

[Whisperess]

Re: Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by Pin
We do, but most are

2 Smite Clerics
1 2h paladin
1 Stealth Minstrel
1 Matter Sorc
2 Shield+Parry Mercs
1 X-bow Armsman

Sad but true

 

[loxleyhood]

Wow, how kind. In response I offer a mid version.

8-25,000 Savages

Hit shit.

 

[old.Atrox]

Re: Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by Pin
We do, but most are

2 Smite Clerics
1 2h paladin
1 Stealth Minstrel
1 Matter Sorc
2 Shield+Parry Mercs
1 X-bow Armsman

imo replace one cleric with a earth wizz

 

[BidAccount]

Whispersss

What - you've never seen a savage pull that? You must be walking around with your eyes shut.

Few nights running the emain cg had an award going for the highest savage damage of the night - was 1100 and something at best with regular 1k plus hits.

You hear that noise? Thats the nerf bat warming up.

 

[Arnor]

Re: Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by Pin
We do, but most are

2 Smite Clerics
1 2h paladin
1 Stealth Minstrel
1 Matter Sorc
2 Shield+Parry Mercs
1 X-bow Armsman

donttouchpoopy: YAEHHH EVAERY SVAVAGE DO 100000++ DMG A NANO SECOND!!!111111111

 

[Whisperess]

Yes - I have seen that - on some lucky quads with good crits or on lowbie enemies, or on albs with chain and crappy resists ( you'd be surprised at how many of these exist ) - but you make it sound like it's 'on average' per round in general, especially since you give 200-300 as numbers for mercs.

Geez, you're getting quite tiresome, but I guess that's your goal?

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
A mid melee groups weakness is magic.

Try matching mercs against savages and see what happens.

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[Belomar]

Originally posted by Hatt
Please nuke me.. 60% in all resists.. hurts so much

I cap out on you, Hatts (or nearly). But then again, I do that on most targets.

 

[BidAccount]

Happens way more than it should.

What other tank (let alone self buffing hybrid) can pull 1k plus hits 10-15% of the time (seen varying stats posted).

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Geeeez when is the damn wajn gone stop

My eyez!!!!! My eyez!!!!!! :wall:

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
dont forget the magic /assist command. Thats the only way to beat a Savage group ( Savage with 360 capped Evade, 3/4 attackers = not capped Avade rate anymore )

Don't get us wrong... We do use /assist, always have those 3/4 people on the one target.

Unfortunately most people don't know who they should be going for first.

Maybe we should run a poll and see which guy from the standard Mid melee group should be ganked first?

 

[Pandemic]

Re: Re: Re: Help for albs

Originally posted by froler-mid
nope, NEVER, what is /asssist?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

well i rarely see an alb grp use assist when they do its often on me. takes a long time for a grp of alb tanks to kill me when i am slamming them / being healed

the correct alb grp setup has no problems handling a mid grp only on this server most albs did not learn correct grp setup / tactics instead they just whine its due to 'x' being an overpowered class

note 'x' changes as soon as 'x' is nerfed to a new 'x' so there will allways be an 'x' to blame as to why albs lost

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Pin
Don't get us wrong... We do use /assist, always have those 3/4 people on the one target.

Unfortunately most people don't know who they should be going for first.

Maybe we should run a poll and see which guy from the standard Mid melee group should be ganked first?

carry on as u are and target the warrior first.

 

[congin]

well try using 2 clerics and you may have some chance against savage groups... 2 clerics in alb groups here is very rare

 

[Aussie-]

Oh really hatt? is that really so? we didnt know that, this is the first time someone suggested that group

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Aussie-
Oh really hatt? is that really so? we didnt know that, this is the first time someone suggested that group

And still it's a rare sight, why?

 

[Asha]

Originally posted by congin
well try using 2 clerics and you may have some chance against savage groups... 2 clerics in alb groups here is very rare

Wow, didn't think of that, thx.

No, what albs actually need is 2 healurs :x