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old.Cruel Heart
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Its simple, if you want to RvR go 48 pac.
If you want to PvE or solo go 38 pac or lower.
If you want to PvE or solo go 38 pac or lower.
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Garaen
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Thanks for the help all, i havnt decided 100% on my spec yet, but i will let you know when i do 
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cindiki
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healer spec
If you take it logically: healers goal in RvR (we all making lvl50 chars to go Rvr, right?) is
1. Mezz (healer is best with mezz in midgard)
2. Heal
3. Buff
Is successfull rvr possible without buffs - yes, it is. Without heals - well, basically all not insta heal are made AFTER fight. Without mezz/stun - hell, NO.
The most required healer in RvR - Pac healer. And going pac doesnt mean easier life and less skills. The whole battle depends on PAC HEALER SKILLS.
And if you take nowdays fights in emain, which are basically mg camping (most of the time) - you really need 5th powerregen to wipe out albs with nonstop AE spells
So go 48pac, mend 22, aug 11 - you will never be sorry.
Ae mezz with 150 radius is gimped compare to bards and sorc's 350/400. Your group gonna lose in rvr 100%.
This game is still about who will mezz/stun first in the battle. Think about it.
regards,
Cindi
lvl50 healer, Nolby Pride
If you take it logically: healers goal in RvR (we all making lvl50 chars to go Rvr, right?) is
1. Mezz (healer is best with mezz in midgard)
2. Heal
3. Buff
Is successfull rvr possible without buffs - yes, it is. Without heals - well, basically all not insta heal are made AFTER fight. Without mezz/stun - hell, NO.
The most required healer in RvR - Pac healer. And going pac doesnt mean easier life and less skills. The whole battle depends on PAC HEALER SKILLS.
And if you take nowdays fights in emain, which are basically mg camping (most of the time) - you really need 5th powerregen to wipe out albs with nonstop AE spells
So go 48pac, mend 22, aug 11 - you will never be sorry.
Ae mezz with 150 radius is gimped compare to bards and sorc's 350/400. Your group gonna lose in rvr 100%.
This game is still about who will mezz/stun first in the battle. Think about it.
regards,
Cindi
lvl50 healer, Nolby Pride
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hjalthor
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Re: healer spec
Very little i agree with here, ask most tank what they hate the most are having a target that are getting heals, and I do heal in battle almost all I do, no heal needed I mez and stun (I do use my instan AE first tho), since all healer does the buff before battle you can put it last most be no. 1
Not saying that you dont need skill as a pac healer, but not having high pac does make it harder, you say so you self in this post, what the realm need are not 100%pac healers but all kinda specced healers.
That casters need the 5th powregen in static battle are true, but what u thing zerk and warriors would have if they could choose 5th pow regen or 20% attack speed?
So it all depends on how your group are put togetter and what kinda battle you are fighting
And the radius thing, true, thats why Im gonna respec as told above
And no this game are about who have people standing after the battle.
Keemich
Originally posted by cindiki
If you take it logically: healers goal in RvR (we all making lvl50 chars to go Rvr, right?) is
1. Mezz (healer is best with mezz in midgard)
2. Heal
3. Buff
Is successfull rvr possible without buffs - yes, it is. Without heals - well, basically all not insta heal are made AFTER fight. Without mezz/stun - hell, NO.
The most required healer in RvR - Pac healer. And going pac doesnt mean easier life and less skills. The whole battle depends on PAC HEALER SKILLS.
And if you take nowdays fights in emain, which are basically mg camping (most of the time) - you really need 5th powerregen to wipe out albs with nonstop AE spells
So go 48pac, mend 22, aug 11 - you will never be sorry.
Ae mezz with 150 radius is gimped compare to bards and sorc's 350/400. Your group gonna lose in rvr 100%.
This game is still about who will mezz/stun first in the battle. Think about it.
regards,
Cindi
lvl50 healer, Nolby Pride
Very little i agree with here, ask most tank what they hate the most are having a target that are getting heals, and I do heal in battle almost all I do, no heal needed I mez and stun (I do use my instan AE first tho), since all healer does the buff before battle you can put it last most be no. 1
Not saying that you dont need skill as a pac healer, but not having high pac does make it harder, you say so you self in this post, what the realm need are not 100%pac healers but all kinda specced healers.
That casters need the 5th powregen in static battle are true, but what u thing zerk and warriors would have if they could choose 5th pow regen or 20% attack speed?
So it all depends on how your group are put togetter and what kinda battle you are fighting
And the radius thing, true, thats why Im gonna respec as told above
And no this game are about who have people standing after the battle.
Keemich
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old.Cruel Heart
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Re: healer spec
Exactly. (I ofc have the same spec )
Originally posted by cindiki
If you take it logically: healers goal in RvR (we all making lvl50 chars to go Rvr, right?) is
1. Mezz (healer is best with mezz in midgard)
2. Heal
3. Buff
Is successfull rvr possible without buffs - yes, it is. Without heals - well, basically all not insta heal are made AFTER fight. Without mezz/stun - hell, NO.
The most required healer in RvR - Pac healer. And going pac doesnt mean easier life and less skills. The whole battle depends on PAC HEALER SKILLS.
And if you take nowdays fights in emain, which are basically mg camping (most of the time) - you really need 5th powerregen to wipe out albs with nonstop AE spells
So go 48pac, mend 22, aug 11 - you will never be sorry.
Ae mezz with 150 radius is gimped compare to bards and sorc's 350/400. Your group gonna lose in rvr 100%.
This game is still about who will mezz/stun first in the battle. Think about it.
regards,
Cindi
lvl50 healer, Nolby Pride
Exactly. (I ofc have the same spec
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shilak
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Cindi, I think you miss the point. While going 48 Pac is without a doubt better for open fights, it does not give you a well rounded healer. Personally, I prefer specs like MAP 24/32/36, 26/30/36 or 27/27/38 as although you lose the larger radius instas, 1pt from the pom and a few seconds from the AOEs, you gain a whole lot more ... useful group heal, single heal and ress for keep defense ... decent haste for helping your tanks drop the enemy before your precious mezzes run out and useful resists/selfbuffs.
A 36/38 Pac healer can make up for what they lose using good skill and some cheap RAs. But in the end its down to your play style, if you spend most of your time fighting in the open then Pac 48 is probably better, if you dont you are probably better off with a more balanced spec.
A 36/38 Pac healer can make up for what they lose using good skill and some cheap RAs. But in the end its down to your play style, if you spend most of your time fighting in the open then Pac 48 is probably better, if you dont you are probably better off with a more balanced spec.
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poppamies
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12 aug 36 mend 38 paci, works gret for me =)
i start with the insta aoe stunn (on closest enemies) then castable on the rest, let em purge while casting a ae mezz (350 radius-50 more then insta- and 56 sec duaration-30 sec longer duaration-.
Then just singel stun the ones the tanks are killing, and if we get anbushed, i got the 278hp grp heal range 2k and 2.7 se ccast time (2.3-4 with more dex), and 2x1000hp insta heals.
normal heal 2 sec cast time 300 hp
Crap buffs, but everyone nowadays got a buffbot so...
And i made over 500k+ rps with this spec, and i really wouldnt change it for anyting =)
had 15 aug 35 mend 38 paci
i start with the insta aoe stunn (on closest enemies) then castable on the rest, let em purge while casting a ae mezz (350 radius-50 more then insta- and 56 sec duaration-30 sec longer duaration-.
Then just singel stun the ones the tanks are killing, and if we get anbushed, i got the 278hp grp heal range 2k and 2.7 se ccast time (2.3-4 with more dex), and 2x1000hp insta heals.
normal heal 2 sec cast time 300 hp
Crap buffs, but everyone nowadays got a buffbot so...
And i made over 500k+ rps with this spec, and i really wouldnt change it for anyting =)
had 15 aug 35 mend 38 paci
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horsma
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If you dont wanna go higher pac take Garnets spec. And yes, i rather go without healer in emain than have one high lev mending/ aug GIMP in my grp, or take shammy. Healing is rvr situation is only bonus and not many healers are know of it and high aug.. well you get all puffs from shammy, and only what you need from healer is attackspeed and with that 30 you get second grp attackspeed puff even.
Still, if you have pac 48, your insta mez/stun area is GREAT.
And belive what Cindy & Felucia say, they are main healers in grp (those whos ae mez/stun lead victory or death). At the moment imho best healer is Xuth.
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Reverant Mezz
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like garnet says 38pac / 23mend / 30 aug
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cameth-
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It's all about how you wanna play, but imo 48 pac & 24 mend is the best spec for RvR.
Aug and mend healers are also great for a grp to have, but as backup healers (Pac healer + mend healer + aug shaman in same grp = _the_ support). It's great to have big heals landing on you from a mend healer and resist buffs from a full aug healer is also good & i hear that some zerkers really like celerity But the fact is that a "gank grp" needs that upper hand a (real) pac healer gives.
To succeed in RvR you need to pick your fights, become the predator and not the prey. Keel your enemies before they know what's going on. etc. And a full (48) pac healer is the ultimate char for this =)
If i was just gonna "zerg-RvR" or do a lot of keeptakes/defences and milegate standoffs i would probably spec high aug and/or mend tho, since superior cc matters less in those sitautions.
For now i'm speccing my healer in training to 48 pac & 24 mend. Spread heals might change that tho since it's such a great way of healing (First spread heal at 30 mend). But that patch also gives a respec for lvl 30+ healers anyway =)
PS. I'll always feel 100x safer in a grp with a skilled full pac healer than in a grp with a "balanced healer" with half-gimped cc skills.
Aug and mend healers are also great for a grp to have, but as backup healers (Pac healer + mend healer + aug shaman in same grp = _the_ support). It's great to have big heals landing on you from a mend healer and resist buffs from a full aug healer is also good & i hear that some zerkers really like celerity
But the fact is that a "gank grp" needs that upper hand a (real) pac healer gives.To succeed in RvR you need to pick your fights, become the predator and not the prey. Keel your enemies before they know what's going on. etc. And a full (48) pac healer is the ultimate char for this =)
If i was just gonna "zerg-RvR" or do a lot of keeptakes/defences and milegate standoffs i would probably spec high aug and/or mend tho, since superior cc matters less in those sitautions.
For now i'm speccing my healer in training to 48 pac & 24 mend. Spread heals might change that tho since it's such a great way of healing (First spread heal at 30 mend). But that patch also gives a respec for lvl 30+ healers anyway =)
PS. I'll always feel 100x safer in a grp with a skilled full pac healer than in a grp with a "balanced healer" with half-gimped cc skills.
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cameth-
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Realm points = reward for killing enemies
So you're saying a hopeless player is one that wins a lot of fights and kills a lot of enemies?
Right...
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hjalthor
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Originally posted by cameth-
Aug and mend healers are also great for a grp to have
It's great to have big heals landing on you from a mend healer and resist buffs from a full aug healer is also good & i hear that some zerkers really like celerity
To succeed in RvR you need to pick your fights, become the predator and not the prey. Keel your enemies before they know what's going on. etc
I agree
Might have cut a few things away, but nomore than u did on Vell´s
Keemich
ok maybe cut abit more than u but looks much better now
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Reverant Mezz
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at the end of the day play what u wanna play and not what ppl tell u to play, if u dont u will hate ur char..