Healer

[Garaen]

Hi all

I recently made a ShadowBlade to level 24 and am having great fun in the BG's, but i want to try a new class, a Healer.

I just had a quick look on DAoC Catacombs and the spec lines for a healer and i cant possibly decide how to spec, i was thinking Pacification to 45 or so, then dump the rest in Mending. (I want to be a CC/Healing healer). I cant see much point in specc'ing in Augmentation unless i take it to a high level, which i will be unable to do with a measly x1 spec points per level, but the Group speed increase looks quite nifty.

Can anyone suggest any better templates for a healer. And do we get the Frigs Heal spell, ive been given it by Shamans a few times and i love it!

Thanks for all your help.

 

[Archeon]

Nah, healers don't get friggs. We get instant heals (one ST, one group)

Most healers in middy are Pac/Mend spec, so you can't really go wrong with it. and Runies will love you for the PoM2

for a BG toon your right, theres no point in putting anything into aug mainly because all the good stuff starts to come at 18+ which for a toon means your gonna be very gimped in other areas.

..then again, i guess you could argue a BG pac healer is kinda pointless mainly because everyone uses AE spells

 

[belth]

44 Aug
11 Mend
29 Pac

If you're gonna solo from 29 to 50 And no I wouldn't want to fight one, too nasty stuff.

 

[Thorarin]

Common specs are

48 pacification and most of the rest in mending
Will give you the best mez/stun AE instants, which is good in RvR

If you think that's a bit extreme you can do 38 pac for example, and 35 mending along with it.

Almost all healer specs have their uses, though I wouldn't go Augmentation. Sure, you can solo pretty well but you're less useful in groups, which most people don't appreciate because they're always short on healers

 

[Vell]

My spec is something like:
39 Augment
24 Mending
29 Pac

This gives me both single-target insta heal, and group insta. Also gives me insta single target mezz and stuns - which I mainly use to get out of trouble. The casted AE mezz and stuns are good enough in pretty much all situations.
And it gives me the second group-attack-speed buff, which I'm sure anyone who's ever grouped with me will say is very nice indeed. Also gives some nice resist buffs.

I'm always wary of going high in Pac, given that (a) your spec in pac doesn't affect the chance to mezz, just the duration - and in most situations, people are dead about 5 seconds after they are mezzed anyways. So mezzing them for 1 1/2 minutes isn't really much different from a 1 minute mezz.
Then, given things like purge, group purge, high resists, immunity to mezz for 1 minute, and declining returns, it makes me wonder whether pac line is really all that much worth speccing in any more.

 

[Garaen]

In a future patch the higher level the spell the more chance it has to stick, i think. If this is indeed the case then you will need high Pac for your spells to stick (I got this information off the VN boards, so it may be rubbish)

 

[Vell]

Errr, yeah, that's rubbish. Ignore everything on the VN boards, jut pay attention to Camelot Herald.

Of course, that's not saying anything about future patches, but it sure as hell hasn't been implemented yet (nor do I think it ever will be).

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Vell
Errr, yeah, that's rubbish. Ignore everything on the VN boards, jut pay attention to Camelot Herald.

Even better: pay attention to VNBoards, but filter out the shit, which happens to be 90% of the contents. Take Grab Bag stuff with a big bag of salt and read tests with logs on VNBoards about what Sanya Teh Inaccurate says.

 

[hellraisermk2]

My final spec will be:

45 Pac (for final PoM)
16 Aug (Second Speed song at 15 aug)
25 Mend (Third best major heal- posiibly a diff one, but I know I get one at 25 )

I'm not too bothered about the last two instas with increased radius (only another 150m). I think another heal and a small increase in my speed is a fair trade off.

I'd rather go 40 mend and split the rest between pac and aug, but I couldn't imagine coping without my pom. Pretty much any spec you decide to follow with a healer will be a darn good spec. Even high aug is not as gimped as alot of people make it out to be.

In terms of BG's though, Pac is what I found most fun. In normal RvR as well, playing with mez's/ stuns is just as satisfying as going bashing the enemy with a melee/ caster class

 

[Tasans]

45 Pac
25 Mend
16 Aug

This is the way if you want to be the main CCer (of course cc also requires skill but that can be learned with experience not trigger happy instas).
45 pac gives you the last pow regen buff which is pure calmness, you have to see it to understand what i mean.
25 mend makes me a little wary for a healers healing abilities as you will have some variance at the baseline heals (the only ones worth using imo the others are too slow - expensive).
Also the 2 insta heals are a must have for any healer (life savers).
Aug- my advice don't put lot of skills in it. Healers will never be able to buff as good as a shammie. If you want to play a tank roll a warrior, and if you still want your tank to heal play a friar on prydwen (this spec reminds me of full smite clerics and the look on their groupmates faces when they told them what they are )
Healers generaly have good lines and is difficult to make a gimp one, unless of course you max out 1 line

 

[hjalthor]

32 Aug
24 Mend
36 Pac

Best allround spec ATM imho, get the 2nd best powregen, , instant AE mez, singel stun and mez from Pac

50%health rez, instan group and singel heal from Mend

2nd best celerity, 3rd best attack speed buff, 8% Body/energy and spirit resist (and some very nice self buffs)

And healer can buff as good as any Cave Shammy , and if Aug spec ur baseline WILL be better than a none aug spec.
The instan AE mez are only good if you one FG running around alone, in a zerg or on keep defence/attack an aug spec healer (not for the caster but tanks) are much better, if spec as above 1 in 3 hits on Keep door or Lord WILL be the AUG spec healers if he are casting his Celerity.

Ill give you this much in normal RvR Aug dont give much, but Pac dont give anymore, an instan mez or stun are a on a 10 min timer, the extra attackspeed,celerity (wont be many times you have time to cast celerity tho) and the better baseline buffs are there all the time.

As for a high pac being a better CC'er, thats crap, as someone said only lvl have anything say about ur mez/stun sticking, only thing u get from high pac are a few more sec in ur AE mez/stun (2sec on stun, cant recall the mez) and the best powregen. most times u will use your singel mez( and ups aint that a baseline spell?? ) while xping.

As for CC'ing in RvR no need 9 times out of 10 if the enemy see a smal shield or anyone lifting their hands when casting then they are on you, or some other healer/SM or Skald have allready mez your target within the last minute, so target resist.

If you want to please the casters get the best powregen, as for the CC pac dont mean anything on how often your mez/stun stick.
Do how you like, just dont get think you have to have high pac to CC it is not anything you get with pac, it is purely something you learn by playing (not saying I a master tho ).

Only other way I would spec was less Pac and more mend to get the batteriheal(when it comes). Would like the higher aug to but then I cost to much of one of the other lines, and need 40+ Aug for the points to pay of.

And the best advice you can have dont listen to others, do what you think is fun, even if u have 1 in pac people still need a rez or a heal

Keemich

Edit says the same only made it easier to read.
Edit Ehh had left out an allround in start

 

[Veluden]

Some of these suggested specs above don't make logical sense to me, but then healer speccing is very diverse.

Aug healers buffing grp as good as shammys...er no, lacking spec buffs plus base bonuses are neglible. The things aug brings to groups are the resists and celerity, the latter being very awkward to use in RvR. Also the line scales very awkwardly. However does have some sweetpoints.

Disagree with previous poster about cc in RvR, Ae mez is dominant in the general rvr tactics. I use ae mez and stun about 10 times more than the single versions of rvr. You don't need to wear a small shield, our surviablity is above average in rvr encounters.

My current spec is MAP 27/27/38, a very nice versatile spec, however with the benefit of seeing the major improvements to mending coming in the future I would suggest rather 36/12/38 or even 40/4/36 if you don't mind running without speed.

 

[shilak]

Im currently specced MAP 22/49/5, the high aug is great for PvE but has some real limitations in RvR. For PvE the 54% reduction on weapon speed can perform wonders, and at 50 I can solo most oranges with ease. Problem comes in RvR, although I can solo certain classes in melee (mainly those with fast or 2 weapons) an aug healer is no match for the tank classes. Celerity is also next to useless in RvR due to its poor range and cast time.

Therefore, come 1.56 I will be respeccing, most lilkely to MAP 24/32/36 or MAP 26/30/36. My main reason for this is that I need better CC for RvR, currently I can get off 3-4 single cast mezzes before getting engaged in combat, with 36 pac I should be able to get off a couple fo 52s AoE mezzes and then switch into heal/stun mode, not to mention the insta AoE mezz when its up, and having the insta stun/mezz for those time when the enemy reaches me. I want to retain a reasonable level of aug spec as I do like to get stuck in from time to time.

 

[infozwerg]

spec 48 pac or you are gimped.

even albs will laugh at you if you go less pac.

i recommend 11 aug 22 mend but some ppl prefer 5 aug 24 mend.

 

[Garnet]

23 mend / 30 aug / 38 pac i would recommend..

 

[Tasans]

Healing in rvr is a bit limited imo since enemies always go for casters and i find it difficult to keep them alive even with instas.
Whereas with pac you can mez and forget.
Also I'll say it again the last pow regen is great.
And healers buffing as good as shammies... i have to admit the resists are good but i am a bit wary about celerity.

 

[belth]

Don't forget Spread Heals (Heal Neediest), really handy spells, atleast by description. Single skill /respec at 30 when they come though.

MAP 33/19/38 sounds like a good spec then, you get all your fancy instas and much better heals. Better survivability, especially with spread heals, just spam the heal and voilá, the most damaged gets healed.

 

[Arnor]

20 aug!!!!!(atleast)

 

[old.Cruel Heart]

Im specced 48p, 22m, 11a..
Was thinking about 38 pac but POM (5) and the 300 radius in insta ae mezz/stun changed my mind..

Really a huge difference between 150 radius and 300.

But if you want to solo make a aug healer.

 

[Vell]

What you really need to do is define what kind of healer you want to be. As people have pointed out, it really is quite hard to spec a healer completely wrong - all specs have advantages.

If you want to be a pure RvR healer, then go high Pac - but your usefulness in PvE situations is not so good compared to other specs you can have. (Obviously you can still heal, which is always nice).

If you prefer to do some RvR and some PvE, then a balanced spec is good - either the spec Garnet recommends, or my own. Both have definite advantages. (And I think, if I get chance to respec, I will switch to Garnet's, but I'd have to look at it a bit more).

If you prefer do to solely PvE, then go for 45ish aug, and balance out the other 2 specs.

Note that when I say PvE, I don't just mean solo PvE, but groups/large raids also.

To give an example, I recently went on a legion raid, in a full group but me as the only lvl 50. Others ranged from 43-48. However, dispite this, our group still managed to do most damage and therefore get the loot - outdamaging many full groups of 50's. Why? Because Healer Aug line really does rock.

 

[etcetra]

listen to Veluden, one of the best healers ive ever played with
Gives a new meaning to the word battlehealer :>

 

[Veluden]

Thanks mum!

 

[hjalthor]

Still say

32 Aug
24 Mend
36 Pac

 

[err0r]

Thinkin of speccing my healer alt to 38 pac / 27 aug / 27 mend, totally gimped?

 

[Veluden]

Lol no your not gimped That is my spec and I used to be 48 pac 23 mend 9 aug, and also Garnet's spec and I like this one the best. Versatility is the key

 

[hjalthor]

Originally posted by err0r
Thinkin of speccing my healer alt to 38 pac / 27 aug / 27 mend, totally gimped?

No a good allround healer, but I dont think the extra points in pac are worth the instant 7sec AE stun, I would stop at 36 pac for the instant AE mez.

When we get the battery heal Ill respec to
32 Aug
32 Mend
29 Pac

or

32 Aug
30 mend
31 Pac

Slim chance Ill go for this one

34 Aug (for the 16% body resist)
30 Mend
29 Pac

Keemich

 

[err0r]

Originally posted by Veluden
Lol no your not gimped That is my spec and I used to be 48 pac 23 mend 9 aug, and also Garnet's spec and I like this one the best. Versatility is the key

Not having any problems with my self concience, the healer is yet to be rolled... just wanted to check if some fact had slipped my mind while thinking of spec. Seems there wasn't any

And yes, I think the extra instant is worth it, playing as a druid has taught me that I should not purge the stun as I will get followed by mez, still I always purge as a reflex t.t

 

[infozwerg]

btw these "versatile" specs are the main reason you will loose to hibernia and their bards in rvr.

i dont know about you but i personally dont like loosing.

 

[Vell]

Originally posted by infozwerg
btw these "versatile" specs are the main reason you will loose to hibernia and their bards in rvr.

i dont know about you but i personally dont like loosing.

On the contrary my dear Nolby Pride friend. A balanced spec simply takes more skill to play well than your basic pac healer. Pure pac healers take very little skill to play. So, if you are a hopeless player, who is only good for farming RP's and nothing else, then follow Nolby Pride's example and go pure Pac, for NP are indeed, very good at RP farming. If you like to think of yourself as having some skill, some patience (because it does take longer to learn how to operate efficiently), and the ability to ignore L337 NP players, then go for a more balanced spec.

 

[hjalthor]

Very Vell said