HDMI? Pah!

[nath]

HDMI is Dead. Introducing HDBaseT Networking — Reviews and News from Audioholics

Sounds pretty freakin awesome tbh.

 

[Ch3tan]

Sweet. I doubt we'll see this for 5 years or so, too many hdmi enabled devices around.

 

[TdC]

but cat5 and RJ45 is proven tech. bring it on I say!

 

[old.user4556]

I call aids on this, HDMI 1.4 will make use of previously unused cables on the HDMI lead for 100 Mbits ethernet goodness - it was one of the most important features of 1.4 I was looking forward to.

HDMI :: Manufacturer :: HDMI 1.4 :: HDMI Ethernet Channel

The technology is there already.

 

[TdC]

The technology is there already.

and it's called CAT5

 

[old.user4556]

That's true Teeds; I really want this new tech to work because it does look awesome, but I agree with Chet that when it comes along and is mainstream it'll be reinventing the wheel as the technology is already there now.

 

[Zenith.UK]

The 5Play thing is more interesting than the standard itself.

The one thing I'm not happy about is sending power down the cable without some way of differentiating the cable. Network equipment with PoE is clearly designed as such. Standard USB is 5V. 12V USB has a larger socket that only the correct plug will connect, and 24V USB has a similar socket but with a different plug again.

Now if you're injecting power down the cable as well, you need to be DAMN sure that your machinery isn't going to get blown up.

 

[nath]

The 5Play thing is more interesting than the standard itself.

The one thing I'm not happy about is sending power down the cable without some way of differentiating the cable. Network equipment with PoE is clearly designed as such. Standard USB is 5V. 12V USB has a larger socket that only the correct plug will connect, and 24V USB has a similar socket but with a different plug again.

Now if you're injecting power down the cable as well, you need to be DAMN sure that your machinery isn't going to get blown up.

I'd have thought the device sending power down the line can work out if the destination can take the power and if not, work like normal cat5?

 

[TdC]

I already have cables in my house that adhere to HDMI1.4, though I have no equipment that does

 

[old.user4556]

I've not read the page fully, but does it say anything about power / interference? Us audiophiles have gone to great lengths to isolate power and signal cables.

 

[Jupitus]

I've not read the page fully, but does it say anything about power / interference? Us audiophiles have gone to great lengths to isolate power and signal cables.

What makes HDBaseT so odd is that it is sending more info than HDMI over a set of 8 wires within a standard Cat5e or Cat6 cable. How can it do this? Well, it uses much lower frequency modulated packets. These are not IP packets like you find in Gigabit Ethernet. Since they run on such low frequency, they are not subjected to typical EM (electromagnetic) interference. That means you can sit the cables in front of microwave or a cell phone and there are no problems with signal degradation.

That's the reference, though it does not refer to this in the context of having power down the same cable, although I would guess that if this quote holds true then it shouldn't matter.... no?

 

[Embattle]

Intel has been working on this - Light Peak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Light Peak’s dazzling potential

 

[Wazzerphuk]

This thread is a massive nerdgasm.

 

[Ch3tan]

This thread is a massive nerdgasm.

I heard your screams of joy from my side of London

 

[Embattle]

Nerds - http://techresearch.intel.com/UserFiles/en-us/File/OpticalIO/LightPeakInterestingFacts-v010710.pdf

YouTube- Intel Light Peak Interconnect Technology Update

 

[nath]

Ooo, mega nerdgasm .

 

[old.user4556]

This thread is a massive nerdgasm.

hurry up and pick the photo comp aids face!

 

[Wazzerphuk]

What? I didn't win.

You people are odd somtimes

 

[TdC]

read the thread then

 

[Chilly]

10 gbit without a waveguide or massive multiplexing? jog on.

 

[old.user4556]

What? I didn't win.

You people are odd somtimes

Yes but I wanted someone else to pick it for a change, so I elected the grumpiest person here; you.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I only get to pick it when the heathens vote for me. ;]

So that'll be never then.

Plus, my past suggestions got feck all posts.

 

[TdC]

because it SUCKED

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Yeah, Summer was a really shitty suggestion in Summer.